Call me stupid if you want (just not face to face ok!!)

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Ladfies, Gentlemen and fellow tossers. Can anyone help me please. I have a Garmin 2610 and I need/would like some instructions on how to use it, OR alternatively can anyone tell me how the feck (idiots guide, which buttons to push in what order) I navigate to a certain postcode. This thing is confusing the fuck out of me, and I dont understand why when i do find someowhere i want to go, it zooms out and shows me an outline map of the whole of the UK in between telling me to "turn left/ right, etc" im on the point of giving up on it and getting a peli case, or whatever they are called for my Garmin Nuvi760 sticking a ram ball on it and just using that.

Once again Ukgser saves the day (please!!!)

thank you one and all for your comments,


Mark.
 
You can't use whole postcodes on the 2610.

You can use the first part of the poscode (eg CT4 IIRC) to narrow down a search, but you can't use just the postcode.
 
...so it'll get u within 20 miles, no problem.


u can use a map after that ?


:jes
Ah yes a sense of deja vu!!!! i did comment on how disgusted I was that some people cant even read a map did i not...... Err well really theres no storage space on my bike jacket for road atlas err cough splutter quick runaway!!!!!!!!!!...

Anyway the 2610 is for sale if anyone wants it, no idea how much for so will take offers. the only thing you wont get is the ram arm thing.

Do excuse me im going to go and hide now... and anyway whenever I have been asked to read a map its been able to to be spread out over the bonnet of a land rover or in some sort of green fleet mil vehicle, so there.:comfort:augie:bounce1
 
RTFM ! http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/StreetPilot2650GPS_OwnersManual.pdf Why do people ask questions on here without having done a simply Google search first? You did say call me stupid!:hide

The 2610 is completly useless if all you want is to just ride to a UK postcode. If you live in mainland Europe, as I do, where postcode areas are much bigger and therefore not much use that it's not a problem. As a motorcycle GPS for those who want to plan routes or maybe just ride until it is time to head for home then let the device take you back. (very usefull when you are in an unfamilier area) the 2610 is a great tool. Sadly the last map update was the 2009 version-not yet a problem around here where things don't change much. At some point I will have to replace mine but as yet I see no great advantage in the newer models. yes I know they have bluetooth but if thats what I wanted I could get a bluetooth adapter for my Autocom.

Having a GPS does not mean you don't need maps, they do a different job. But just as none of us was born knowing how to read a map we all have to learn how to use a GPS. Funny thing is that most of those who them off either don't own one or have never read the manual for the one they own.

If you don't sell the 2610 I will offer a free tutorial if you turn up here with it. plus a beer to help the brain cells work- its a well know fact that according to the Darwinian theory of survival of the fitest alcohol kills off the weak brain cells so the more you drink the smarter you become.


John
 
RTFM ! http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/StreetPilot2650GPS_OwnersManual.pdf Why do people ask questions on here without having done a simply Google search first? You did say call me stupid!:hide

The 2610 is completly useless if all you want is to just ride to a UK postcode. If you live in mainland Europe, as I do, where postcode areas are much bigger and therefore not much use that it's not a problem. As a motorcycle GPS for those who want to plan routes or maybe just ride until it is time to head for home then let the device take you back. (very usefull when you are in an unfamilier area) the 2610 is a great tool. Sadly the last map update was the 2009 version-not yet a problem around here where things don't change much. At some point I will have to replace mine but as yet I see no great advantage in the newer models. yes I know they have bluetooth but if thats what I wanted I could get a bluetooth adapter for my Autocom.

Having a GPS does not mean you don't need maps, they do a different job. But just as none of us was born knowing how to read a map we all have to learn how to use a GPS. Funny thing is that most of those who them off either don't own one or have never read the manual for the one they own.

If you don't sell the 2610 I will offer a free tutorial if you turn up here with it. plus a beer to help the brain cells work- its a well know fact that according to the Darwinian theory of survival of the fitest alcohol kills off the weak brain cells so the more you drink the smarter you become.


John
John. thank you for the kind offer of the free brain releasing agent. I shall take you up on it with immediate effect.


Whats your Postcode!!!!!!!!:hide:hide:hide
 
Brave but good post The Grey One :)



Have you tried OpenStreetMap?

Thanks and well he did ask.

OpenstreetmapYes, we have signed up -your link did not work by the way-at least they have a correct map of our village unlike Google maps! As I said the old map is not a problem as yet but I would be interested in using Open Street Maps if they can be somehow downloaded onto my 2610. Too busy here finishing the DIY before the season really gets going to have a look now but any pointers would be welcome for when I have some free time to investigate further.

John (Post code 9854)
 
OpenstreetmapYes, we have signed up -your link did not work by the way-at least they have a correct map of our village unlike Google maps! As I said the old map is not a problem as yet but I would be interested in using Open Street Maps if they can be somehow downloaded onto my 2610. Too busy here finishing the DIY before the season really gets going to have a look now but any pointers would be welcome for when I have some free time to investigate further.

That's odd, link works for me :nenau

The page that you should see allows you to select map tiles and then enter your email address and click 'build my map'. You'll get an email some time later with a link to go and collect the files. There will be a choice of several, select depending on your OS for Mapsource/Basecamp install and also download the GMAPSUPP.IMG file, put this on the CF card in your 2610 and that's it. Files are only available for download for a short while before they're deleted off the server.

John (Post code 9854)

:yelrotflm
 
Having a GPS does not mean you don't need maps, they do a different job.

Not sure about that. I have yet to find a paper map that allows me to plot a route across Europe and then find me a hotel and direct me straight to it with street level detail. The next day a quick switch to Topo maps and I am ready to go off exploring. About the only advantage of a paper map is it doesn't need batteries and it can provide a large area overview. Batteries were a problem with my very old and basic Garmin 12 GPS but these days the battery life on my handhelds is more than enough for my needs and a couple of AAs in my pocket extends that by another 12 hours. The large overview is taken care of in Basecamp on my laptop and iMac with the advantage I can zoom right from all Western Europe to the Croatian street my hotel is in. Garmin don't have street level detail everywhere but places where they haven't, paper maps probably don't either.

For me touring on a bike came of age when I no longer needed to stop and open a map all the time or work on notes taped to tank that seemed OK when I wrote them but were meaningless at the side of the road.

I started with the Garmin 12 as an experiment for backpacking. Linited but high tech at the time. Then a Tomtom Rider 1 which I found quite poor. Then I got a Garmin 2720 which took me wife and I all over Europe and have since had Zumo 550, Zumo 660, Satmap60 and Montana. My wife uses the 550 and I the 660 and they have handled all our European touring with barely a hitch although I did have to use Co-Pilot on my iPhone in Bosnia last year as, my fault, I missed installing a bit of Bosnia on the Garmin. Co-Pilot was surprisingly good.

Gave up bothering to carry paper maps about four years back as taking a small laptop has all my maps, route planning software plus useful web and email.

I still take maps and compass backpacking but for the last couple of trips the maps only came out in the pub in the evenings.
 
I
Not sure about that. I have yet to find a paper map that allows me to plot a route across Europe and then find me a hotel and direct me straight to it with street level detail. The next day a quick switch to Topo maps and I am ready to go off exploring. About the only advantage of a paper map is it doesn't need batteries and it can provide a large area overview. Batteries were a problem with my very old and basic Garmin 12 GPS but these days the battery life on my handhelds is more than enough for my needs and a couple of AAs in my pocket extends that by another 12 hours. The large overview is taken care of in Basecamp on my laptop and iMac with the advantage I can zoom right from all Western Europe to the Croatian street my hotel is in. Garmin don't have street level detail everywhere but places where they haven't, paper maps probably don't either.

For me touring on a bike came of age when I no longer needed to stop and open a map all the time or work on notes taped to tank that seemed OK when I wrote them but were meaningless at the side of the road.

I started with the Garmin 12 as an experiment for backpacking. Linited but high tech at the time. Then a Tomtom Rider 1 which I found quite poor. Then I got a Garmin 2720 which took me wife and I all over Europe and have since had Zumo 550, Zumo 660, Satmap60 and Montana. My wife uses the 550 and I the 660 and they have handled all our European touring with barely a hitch although I did have to use Co-Pilot on my iPhone in Bosnia last year as, my fault, I missed installing a bit of Bosnia on the Garmin. Co-Pilot was surprisingly good.

Gave up bothering to carry paper maps about four years back as taking a small laptop has all my maps, route planning software plus useful web and email.

I still take maps and compass backpacking but for the last couple of trips the maps only came out in the pub in the evenings.

I agree about a sat nav being a great touring aid, I have used one for nine
years now. But a map gives an overview that you can't get on the screen. A decent area map also shows points of interest and gives information (for those of us who still know how to read them) about the geography of the area that your sat nav does not give. So sat nav great for getting you there and a map for finding out where you want to go. Or just for seeing if its worth travelling over that next hill. Unless you are going to carry your laptop everywhere that is and even then the small screen is a poor sustitute for a decent map.

John
 
Thanks

That's odd, link works for me :nenau

The page that you should see allows you to select map tiles and then enter your email address and click 'build my map'. You'll get an email some time later with a link to go and collect the files. There will be a choice of several, select depending on your OS for Mapsource/Basecamp install and also download the GMAPSUPP.IMG file, put this on the CF card in your 2610 and that's it. Files are only available for download for a short while before they're deleted off the server.



:yelrotflm

Tried again and it worked! Thanks for that, I have downloaded maps of our region and they appear in mapsource. Next step is to try to download then to the 2610.

John
 
A decent area map also shows points of interest and gives information
We all have our own ways of doing things but using today's tech I find that no paper map can replicate this,

1. Pick a start point and destination, say Calais to Dubrovnik.

2 Make a router in Basecamp.

3. Check the route and tweak it to places you may wish to ride through.

4. Right click the route and fly it in Google Earth

5. When Google Earth opens select the "path" your route has produced and press the play button. There is a route slider that your can use to by pass the boring bits at the start, then you have a wonderful view of Europe from the air along your route.

6. See something off route that looks interesting. Pause and have a look, Google the place name, check Flikr, Panoramio, etc. and if it looks good change route accordingly.

7. Need a hotel? Pick a likely area and check POIs. Maybe use Booking.com to find and book. Need a campsite. Have a look at Archies super database of POIs. It has never let us down.

Last year a fly of our route section to Slovenia showed "something" in the mountains on Slovenia/Austria border over to one side of the route. Investigation showed this to be a chapel built by Russian prisoners who died building the road in the first world war. It also found Vrisic Pass leading into the Triglav National Park. Probably the best mountain pass I have ridden for years and I had never heard of it.

PS Many moons back when I completed my mountain leader training I was required to navigate to a blank area of wild country (i.e. no viable feature) using a 1:50000 OS map and compass to the nearest 10 metres. For years I have spent winter evenings with these maps visualising landscape and planning routes. These days for me software such as Memory Map, Basecamp, Google Earth on my 27" iMac do the job so much better. When travelling my MacBook Air takes top less space in a pannier than a stack of Lonely Planet guides and assorted maps and provides music, email, web and so much more.
 
We all have our own ways of doing things but using today's tech I find that no paper map can replicate this,

1. Pick a start point and destination, say Calais to Dubrovnik.

2 Make a router in Basecamp.

3. Check the route and tweak it to places you may wish to ride through.

4. Right click the route and fly it in Google Earth

5. When Google Earth opens select the "path" your route has produced and press the play button. There is a route slider that your can use to by pass the boring bits at the start, then you have a wonderful view of Europe from the air along your route.

6. See something off route that looks interesting. Pause and have a look, Google the place name, check Flikr, Panoramio, etc. and if it looks good change route accordingly.

7. Need a hotel? Pick a likely area and check POIs. Maybe use Booking.com to find and book. Need a campsite. Have a look at Archies super database of POIs. It has never let us down.

Last year a fly of our route section to Slovenia showed "something" in the mountains on Slovenia/Austria border over to one side of the route. Investigation showed this to be a chapel built by Russian prisoners who died building the road in the first world war. It also found Vrisic Pass leading into the Triglav National Park. Probably the best mountain pass I have ridden for years and I had never heard of it.

PS Many moons back when I completed my mountain leader training I was required to navigate to a blank area of wild country (i.e. no viable feature) using a 1:50000 OS map and compass to the nearest 10 metres. For years I have spent winter evenings with these maps visualising landscape and planning routes. These days for me software such as Memory Map, Basecamp, Google Earth on my 27" iMac do the job so much better. When travelling my MacBook Air takes top less space in a pannier than a stack of Lonely Planet guides and assorted maps and provides music, email, web and so much more.

And if you had a decent map both the Vrisc pass and the Russian chapel (its on bend no.8) would have been on it, tgether with a whole lot of other stuff-did your high tech find the Mangart road? If not you missed a real treat.

The point is GPS etc is great at what it does well-maps do something different. Having both means you get the best out of your trip.

John
 
The point is GPS etc is great at what it does well-maps do something different. Having both means you get the best out of your trip.

Can't help but agree with you, yet again :rolleyes:

A GPS is a great navigational aid. Maps give you a real sense of the topographical environment that your Garmin will never achieve. Both have their uses in the planning stages and when out on the road.

The convenience of GPS is having guidance whilst you ride and the ability to do things like; asses time to ETA (approx), where to find fuel on your route, locating and navigating to POIs etc. I still tend to get the map out at stops, especially at lunch or in the evening to check out the next section of my route.
 
A GPS is a great navigational aid. Maps give you a real sense of the topographical environment that your Garmin will never achieve. Both have their uses in the planning stages and when out on the road.

Everyone to their own and we all hope we have found the best way. The real comment is a map is a map is a map. Maybe its on paper, maybe it is on a computer screen or maybe it is on a satnav but it is still a map so the only real difference is whether it is better on paper or some sort of screen. An OS map on a computer or satnav is exactly the same as the OS map on paper. The difference being that on a computer it contains a wealth of underlying information that cannot be replicated on paper. A similar advantage exists on road maps with the addition of points of interest and the ability to prompt a route using simple graphics or voice commands. On paper I can choose between a very small scale to cover a whole country or continent, a larger scale to find some of the major roads in a smaller area or a street plan to, hopefully, find every road in a very small area by name. On my satnav I have it all in one simply by pressing the zoom + or - button.

After many many years of touring holidays plus teaching ground navigation and leading mountain expeds I am very good at reading contours and other map features, planning most efficient routes, using Naismiths rules for calculating travel time and viewing problems such as the lack of intervisibility on mountain terrain using OS maps but I still use topo maps in Basecamp and Memory Map which both provide me with very high quality 3D imagery which a paper map can never hope to come close to. Everyone with a computer has access to Google Earth which provides 3D sat imagery.

My wife can look at a mountain route in Basecamp and immediately understand it. On an OS map it is a collection of coloured lines.
 


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