FFS.
And no, i'm not gay or a scouser, it was fashionable 20 years ago![]()
i don't think i'd be happy with the weight high up there at the back

This is how I do it:-
no weight to speak of and the waterproof bag is designed for this application.
..... are the only ones that will pack up small and not restrict wify's access when mounting.

This is how I do it:
The bag on the top box is the BMW inner waterproof bag that contains the sleeping bags and the Exed mattress - no weight to speak of and the waterproof bag is designed for this application.
The chairs are strapped to the panniers and are the only ones that will pack up small and not restrict wify's access when mounting. Big bags strapped on the top of panniers will dig in and are uncomfortable.
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FFS.
People used to spend summer toodling around europe two up with all the camping gear and on a tiny bike.
Even used a pannier on the rear rackYou don't know when you've got it easy
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takes up little room in the lightweight but flexible wicker panniers.
Wicker you say - them's were the days when a GS'er could gavant about with whicker luggage on board...
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In one
My grandfather rode around Japan on a Scott in about 1923....
.....Then took my mother, as a reasonably young girl, around Holland (he was attached to a Dutch squadron in the war, as a wing commander) in 1946, for a month. Most of Europe lay in ruins and they went away for a month on, I think, some variant of Francis Barnet...whilst he tracked down former comrades, to make sure they had made it back to Holland and were OK......He in a long leather or gabardine flying coat (WWI vintage), goggles and gloves. She (she recalls) mostly in her school uniform!

What, without any form of " BMW assist" insurance, or GPS, or goretex, or extra lights, or mobile phone, or heated clothing, or an i-pod, or pre-booking all the stops, or a pannier full of spares, or another pannier full of insecurities and doubts, or a folder full of advice off the internet.
I don't believe it![]()
When we go for a camping holiday, this is how we do it.
Two large brollies, which double up as tents. Net curtains 'borrowed' from the bedroom windows and attached to the edge of the brollies by tape will provide protection from prying foreign eyes and mosquitoes
Two large bin bags for sleeping in.
If we are away for seven days, we wear seven pairs of underpants at all times. Just slip off the inner pair and put them on the top. This prevents the need for a sheepskin or blowy-up seat cover.
Same goes for socks. Buy bigger boots before the trip.
An extension tube from the petrol tank with a fine jet in the end, placed among some dry twigs makes a fine cooker. This tube doubles up as a syphon tube for stealing petrol from foreigners.
Ex german army 'open face' steel helmets provide a cooling breeze to the face and double up as cooking pots after removing the canvas webbing straps.
A couple of oil drips from your final drive is all you need as cooking oil.
A blow-up two seater setee provides ample comfort for an evening by the river, using your brolly/sunshades/tents as appropriate. The setee can also be slept on by the less rugged camper (usually the female partner) if the ground proves to be hard or lumpy. Once deflated, it takes up little room in the lightweight but flexible wicker panniers.
If you are lacking sufficient puff to blow up your setee ... then before selecting your campsite for the evening, visit the local garage and over-inflate your tyres to provide the air reqd. This will require a special settee/tyre valve adaptor tube to be manufactured. A tricky, but worthwhile task.
One sturdy Arran jumper each is all you need accompanied by a lightweight singlet to maintain warmth throughout the entire holiday.
It is also smart enough to blend in whilst among foreign types.
These tips and the items mentioned are all you need.
