CB1000 Hornet/CB1000GT/CB1000F oil consumption issues.
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The Hornets are indeed all being recalled. Expensive for Honda. I wonder if the new breed of Chinese manufacturers would have been able to do this type of recall on their margins?
"A spokesperson for the UK arm of the business went on to say that the cause of the problem was still under investigation however is believed to be related to the piston rings and piston specifications"
"A spokesperson for the UK arm of the business went on to say that the cause of the problem was still under investigation however is believed to be related to the piston rings and piston specifications"
I am very surprised that Honda have run into this kind of issue. The motor has been around for a long time, yes, it has been reworked for this but did any of this motors versions suffer from this fault? Full marks to Honda for the recall, but it really shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
Unless you ride a Monkey 125cc. Engine oil capacity 1.1LApparently Fireblades suffered from it years ago.
I read somewhere that Honda had said a ml per mile / a litre every 1,000 miles was acceptable!
then again only one cylinder so potentially 4000 miles till empty!Was really tempted by the GT, considered flogging / trading my KTM Adventure as the Honda was so cheap, but in view of this debacle I was reminded of my own mantra of not buying a 1st year model of anything!
Will probably bite the bullet on the big 18k service on the KTM, having a suspension service and maybe a remap and getting back a nice, fresh feeling bike for £1500 rather than chucking £7k on top of my PX for a new bike that will lose more than that £1500 the day it is registered in my name....
....and maybe in 3 years time buy a used one for @£8k when the problems have been proven to have been resolved.
The only bikes I ever owned that would burn a litre of oil in 1000 miles were 2-strokes - and even then, only just!
Will probably bite the bullet on the big 18k service on the KTM, having a suspension service and maybe a remap and getting back a nice, fresh feeling bike for £1500 rather than chucking £7k on top of my PX for a new bike that will lose more than that £1500 the day it is registered in my name....
....and maybe in 3 years time buy a used one for @£8k when the problems have been proven to have been resolved.
The only bikes I ever owned that would burn a litre of oil in 1000 miles were 2-strokes - and even then, only just!
They had that rule with diesel cars at one point and suffered lots of diesel engine failures as in reality how often do people check their oil, particularly if you get it serviced and it’s new.Apparently Fireblades suffered from it years ago.
I read somewhere that Honda had said a ml per mile / a litre every 1,000 miles was acceptable!
Barry
Piaggio / Vespa had a similar problem in 2022 when the released their HPE engine. That was attributed to a modified scraper piston ring causing oil to enter the combustion chamber and be burnt. As the sumps are only 1.3 lits owners were soon reporting no oil on the dipstick. Mine was a 2023 model but I still checked the oil every 300 miles.
Literally nothing compared to the potential cost of their 3.5 V6 on the automotive side.
You are the CEO of Honda and I claim my 5,000,000 Yen.
I think more worrying is the recall is for the “ technicians “ to assess how safe the engine is whilst Honda work on a long term cure. The 600rr revs to 12,000 rpm. I certainly wouldnt want oil starvation at those numbers. The 24-26 600RR is again a 2017 design, similar to the Hornet 1000’s engine’s genesis out of the earlier Fireblade. Did Honda have an issue that was never discovered and both these bikes in 2025-26 seem to be showing it?
Totally agree , I know of two on here and my cousin who were all going for the 1000cc variant that have bought elswere. Its not just the£30-35 k lost sales its the lost confidence in the brand. Hell I remember Honda having cam problems on both the CX500 and early VFR 750’s that must be 45 years ago and folk still mention it.Quality control verses or penny pinching
It's going to cost them big time.
It's a good point, but it does not seem to have done BMW any harm, Think of all the problems/recalls they have had, LC 1200 RT suspension recall, 2009> fuel strip, Fuel relay, Antenuator wiring loom, Final drive replacements add any others you wish. A lot of this is due in most cases to the customer doing the R&D, its much cheaper for the accountant to "down design" the bike at known cost rather than what you can get way with in reputation by which time the Design/Accountant has moved on.
Honda have a big problem with these bikes.
Many new Hornet 1000s are losing oil.
I’ve joined a group on Facebook and this was just one of many similar posts
Hey everyone, just got off the phone with my dealer here in utah and received some new information relevant to everyone. Apparently, honda acknowledges the oil consumption issue and is going to order a stop sale here in the usa. In February, they will issue a recall in regard to excess oil consumption resulting in engine damage. Definitely seems like a chicken and the egg dilemma, i think based on my own personal engine issues it was defective from the factory and that oil consumption is a result not the other way around(but as long as they fix it for free who cares i suppose). The fix is still up in the air whether it’s a rebuild or complete new engine. I asked for a copy of this message so if/when I receive it i will post that as well. He said he needs to doublecheck that the internal document is okay to share. Tough because my engine was found defective in October so playing the waiting game to find out how long it will take to make right. Happy Honda is going to do the right thing about this and it could always be worse at least it’s not a 24’ zx6r with almost two years of do not ride orders
The new CB1000GT/CB1000F are delayed till at least June/July 26 whilst Honda try and sort a fix and looks like many Hornets will be getting new engines when the problem is sorted.
And it appears they are stopping sales of the Hornets, at least in the US and A.
I may well cancel my CB1000F order as can’t be arsed to wait if I don’t get it before next summer.
could be worse. You could own a R1200 with fork problems and carden shaft failure, Oh and cam chain tensioner failures, oh and electrical failures
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