City Nav 2008 map detail.

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Ive just installed city nav 2008. Is states that it has improved mapping for Croatia etc.
Comparing it to V7, it seems to have less road details, even at the highest setting compared to V7.
Some big towns are down to street level, which they weren't before. Split for example, but the wee roads in the countryside have gone.

Can someone who has done the same, nip down to Croatia and see if theirs is the same.
 
Ive just installed city nav 2008. Is states that it has improved mapping for Croatia etc.
Comparing it to V7, it seems to have less road details, even at the highest setting compared to V7.
Some big towns are down to street level, which they weren't before. Split for example, but the wee roads in the countryside have gone.

Can someone who has done the same, nip down to Croatia and see if theirs is the same.

I believe it's by design. A lot of people moaned that whilst street level for major cities was improved, the detail outside these areas was now less than the base map.
 
In that case, (ive never tried it yet), can I plot a route with V7 , and send it to my unit.
 
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Just disable the map set on the gps unit which will let you run off the base map and the wee base map roads will be there.
Am gettin fair excited:bounce1:bounce1
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Or if your unit will allow,have the two versions installed and switch between them.You can with a 60csx.
Dave
 
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There are not two versions to load.
It is just that the earlier versions (pre 2008) had no detail for that area and would run of the base map, giving the impresion that there was more detail.

The Balkans was not a selsctable tile before 2008.

Gees a wave if oo pass ee Den.

Kenny.
Bosnia bound.
 
Thanks Kenny.
You mean, Ive just payed garmin a small fortune for my new city navigator , and Ive got to disable it to see the roads ..... thats progress eh ?

Kenny, when are you off then. We start on the 16 aug, and we've decided to go to clockwise instead of Italy first .....its Croatia then maybe if time allows, ferry to Ancona and up to Venice for an ice cream.
I believe thats no-a- kick in the arse aff your route ?
 
Balkans

Clockwise, sailin oot mid August, Hull tae Rotterdam, cumin back aboot 6th Sept.
Three weeks o peace.

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We might just pass you at some point !!.

Just been playin with the sat nav. Its crap. Im going to complain to Garmin.
Since version v7 is still on the computer as well as citynav2008, I can switch between the two. If I make a route using v7 (the set with more 'rural'detail) , it still transfers to the unit, but it says 'does not match maps'. It gives the option to recalculate ... but it could recalculate and miss out somewhere I want to go to. It only gives the options of fastest or quickest routes. Whats the feckin point of planning a complicated route on the computer, if I cant transfer all the points Ive plotted. I cant plot a 'rural road' route on version 2008 because the detail isnt there !!

As you said Kenny, if I disable the mapset on the unit it gives more detail. Towns and roads miraculously appear on the basemap which dont appear when the newest mapset is activated.

What the feck is garmin playing at.

Now .... as you probably know ... Im not very expert at these things, so if Ive got it wrong ... somebody tell me before I phone Garmin to complain.
 
Whats the feckin point of planning a complicated route on the computer, if I cant transfer all the points Ive plotted. I cant plot a 'rural road' route on version 2008 because the detail isnt there !!

As you said Kenny, if I disable the mapset on the unit it gives more detail. Towns and roads miraculously appear on the basemap which dont appear when the newest mapset is activated.

What the feck is garmin playing at.

Now .... as you probably know ... Im not very expert at these things, so if Ive got it wrong ... somebody tell me before I phone Garmin to complain.

It will take many years before Navteq (not Garmin) finish mapping Croatia etc etc in the same detail as the UK. If you set the scale to 15 miles, Mapsource will ignore the detail maps and show the basemap instead (I've just tried it) and you can plan/transfer routes this way. You should take maps of the area if you need them.
By all means complain to Garmin, but since they buy in the maps, there is nothing at all that they can do to help you.
On the positive side you will be able to look up streets in certain towns - which you will certainly not be able to do in V7.
 
We might just pass you at some point !!.

Just been playin with the sat nav. Its crap. Im going to complain to Garmin.
Since version v7 is still on the computer as well as citynav2008, I can switch between the two. If I make a route using v7 (the set with more 'rural'detail) , it still transfers to the unit, but it says 'does not match maps'. It gives the option to recalculate ... but it could recalculate and miss out somewhere I want to go to. It only gives the options of fastest or quickest routes. Whats the feckin point of planning a complicated route on the computer, if I cant transfer all the points Ive plotted. I cant plot a 'rural road' route on version 2008 because the detail isnt there !!

As you said Kenny, if I disable the mapset on the unit it gives more detail. Towns and roads miraculously appear on the basemap which dont appear when the newest mapset is activated.

What the feck is garmin playing at.

Now .... as you probably know ... Im not very expert at these things, so if Ive got it wrong ... somebody tell me before I phone Garmin to complain.

Cool down. You will blow a fuse and spoil your holiday.

You will get the 'does not match maps'. It gives the option to recalculate ... question when moving from v7 to v9 (2008) for many civilised countries not just uncivilised Croatia (or wherever it is you are going).

Why?

Simply because the maps, Base or High Detail, do not match. It's a bit like trying to take a part from a 2000 year 1150 and put it onto a 2004 edition. It may not fit exactly or require a bit of TLC to make it do so.

I got the same prompt a lot when a friend sent me V8 routes. He and I both used V8 (sometimes he sent me old routes in V6, V7 or whatever) but mine was NT, his wasn't. The maps are slightly different. If you flick from one to the other you can see roads 'jump' by a few mill. The poor device does its best to match them up, using your most likely routing. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's not Garmin's fault. They do not even do the mapping. Navtec do it, based largely on information made available by local governments vis-a-vis the roads, where they are, what type, speed limits, in short all sorts of useful guff. As more countries' governments become less suspicious as to why anyone wants accurate maps, the better the mapping will become. Ireland was crap until a few issues ago, but that was down to bad local info. not suspicion. The only downside is that the detail is now becoming so large the files are becoming bigger and bigger (now DVD, no longer CD) meaning faster processors are needed....but that's progress.

Stop whinging for a bit and try it out. You can't break it. You can always simulate driving the recalculated route or perhaps copy it back to your PC to check it out.

As a reserve, take a paper map and pencil. It's what people used to do, after all. Then take comfort. A few years ago the local police might have arrested you for even having those in your pocket.

You will be fine.
 
Stop whinging for a bit and try it out. You can't break it. You can always simulate driving the recalculated route or perhaps copy it back to your PC to check it out.

As a reserve, take a paper map and pencil. It's what people used to do, after all. Then take comfort. A few years ago the local police might have arrested you for even having those in your pocket.

You will be fine.

Not reaaally whinging .... just disappointed to have paid for improved mapping and ending up with more urban info at the expense of the rural mapping, which has obviously been removed. Why would they remove it ?? Surely, a backward step. Garmins are generally rubbish in built up areas anyway. Well my 2650 is. The tomtom in my van NEVER loses sight of the satellites. With the Garmin, you just have to be in a street with houses over one storey and its lost them. Tomtom must have gone to Specsavers.

As for paper maps . Im going on holiday , not an orienteering course.
I take maps, but I'd rather just listen to the posh burd giving me directions to the 'nice bits wot Ive planned' rather than be sitting at the side of a blazing hot motorway junction trying to find out what direction to take.
 
Just been playin with the sat nav. Its crap. ... Since version v7 is still on the computer as well as citynav2008, I can switch between the two. If I make a route using v7 (the set with more 'rural'detail) , it still transfers to the unit, but it says 'does not match maps'. It gives the option to recalculate ... but it could recalculate and miss out somewhere I want to go to. It only gives the options of fastest or quickest routes. Whats the feckin point of planning a complicated route on the computer, if I cant transfer all the points Ive plotted. ... As you said Kenny, if I disable the mapset on the unit it gives more detail. Towns and roads miraculously appear on the basemap which dont appear when the newest mapset is activated.
Sorry, but why cant you "transfer all the points you've plotted"? Surely the version of City Navigator shouldn't affect whether you can transfer a waypoint - unless you meant to say "route". Perhaps you meant the points you created by dragging a route to a specific road, but why not create a proper waypoint for those too?

I would be tempted to download both mapsets to your unit (ie Version 7 AND Version 10 / CityNavigator 2008) and then disable the one with the least detail ie in the cities you disable V7 and in the rural areas you disable V10. You're not deleting them from the card, just disabling them so that in effect the unit can't see them. Bugger, I've just re-read your earlier post and realised that V7 wasn't a selectable tile. In effect then any mention of V7 is a red herring, because you couldn't do anything with it anyway ie regardless of how detailed it was its worthless if you can't download it to the unit.

Rather than downloading whole routes, it may be better to download all the waypoints (see paragraph one) and use the "Find" button on the unit to go from 1 to the other ie after you've got to say Waypoint 6, you use the Find button to get you to Waypoint 7 etc etc. Seems a bit cack-handed I know but "needs must" as they say, and I'm trying to think of some way to get you out of the cack. :D
 


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