City Nav 2013.30 Europe mapping is here

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As per the title; City Nav Europe 2013.30 has arrived. Head over to your myGarmin account and download.

If you don't already have a lifetime update, and think now is the time, don't buy one from Garmin as they're £25 (1/3) cheaper from Handtec.
 
Have you been able to load the whole of Europe (top option) to your computer in one go? Whenever I tried it it kept on telling me that the zumo / SD card didn't have enough memory, without it letting me select the computer only option? Eventually did the western EU then the rest in two downloads onto the PC.
 
Go to mygarmin and check the update there. You will then be offered the latest 2013.3.
 
I've tried that but, whichever way I go in, it just tells me that the maps are up to date. Odd.
 
Have you been able to load the whole of Europe (top option) to your computer in one go? Whenever I tried it it kept on telling me that the zumo / SD card didn't have enough memory, without it letting me select the computer only option? Eventually did the western EU then the rest in two downloads onto the PC.

Nope. usual Garmin/NavTec map update faff-on.

Did the usual, remove everything bar the baseman. Still not enough room for the whole shebang.

Did the W.EU only and that was ok.

As I'm not heading off to the the E.EU anytime soon its not really a bother, just a waste of time downloading / deleting stuff and generally wondering what Garmin get up to.

The 600's replacement is taking its time coming.
 
Have you been able to load the whole of Europe (top option) to your computer in one go? Whenever I tried it it kept on telling me that the zumo / SD card didn't have enough memory, without it letting me select the computer only option? Eventually did the western EU then the rest in two downloads onto the PC.

Here's how I do it for my Zumo 660 and Nuvi 765T (these have 4GB of internal memory, Zumo 550 users will have to use a subset of Europe that suits them best or make one of their own using Mapsource or MapInstall):

1/ Ensure that you have sufficient space on your SD card, 3GB or more should do the trick.
2/ Do the update (one off option rather than Lifetime updater is my preference) sending the mapping to the PC and SD card in the Zumo.
3/ Once complete delete the GMAP3D.IMG file from the Garmin folder on the Zumo's internal memory. This is the file containing data for the 3D buildings eye candy that, IMHO, is a worthless gimmick.
4/ Rename the 3 files (GMAPSUP1.GMA, GMAPSUP1.UNL, GMAPSUP1.IMG) on the SD card found in the Garmin folder to GMAPPROM.GMA, GMAPPROM.UNL, GMAPPROM.IMG.
5/ Check that the internal memory on your Zumo has anough room to fit these files onto with 100MB+ to spare for good measure. If there isn't enough room you'll need to delete some files; GMAPSUPP.IMG files are uploaded mapping data from Mapsource or MapInstall, move these to the Garmin folder of the SD card or delete them. Remove all except the voices you actually use from the Voices folder.
6/ Move the three files in 4 above to the Garmin folder.

Having left the Zumo and PC updating overnight the above took about 5 minutes to do with the exception of the transfer from SD card to internal memory which, once started, looked after itself.

My Zumo now has about 170MB of space free, there might not be enough room to it do this way in the next or subsequent update. Any supplementary mapping has to go onto the SD card.

This gives full European mapping with full junction view all on the internal memory in a format that you can't overwrite from Mapsource or MapInstall. It will lack 3D buildings where previously present but, IMHO, no great loss.
 
I don't want to have maps on the SD card with the well known problems the 660 has reading it at times.

I'm happy to use map install to put maps in excess of western EU onto the 660.

I want to have the "all Europe" maps on my PC, so I can look at how long it'll take to get to Istanbul from Zeebrugge, for example.

So, why won't the updater ignore what the 660 has or hasn't got memory capacity wise and let me download the few gigs of mapping to the PC?
 
I don't want to have maps on the SD card with the well known problems the 660 has reading it at times.

Follow my instructions above and you should be able to fit full Europe onto your 660. Albeit minus the 3D building eye candy.

I'm happy to use map install to put maps in excess of western EU onto the 660.

For the time being at least (until data bloat in a future update makes it not possible) you cna do it without resorting to MapInstall.

I want to have the "all Europe" maps on my PC, so I can look at how long it'll take to get to Istanbul from Zeebrugge, for example.

So, why won't the updater ignore what the 660 has or hasn't got memory capacity wise and let me download the few gigs of mapping to the PC?

Doing it my way will give you full Europe on your PC. In fact I thought that the regional thing only applied to the GPS update with full mapping going to the PC. Having said that I've never bothered with the regional updates anyway. You can uninstall the regional update from your PC and then do a full update on the PC only if you wish.
 
Bumpkin I remember for the last update (or the one before) you did a Mapsource file which had the Rest of Europ selected so I could transfer this across to my SD card. How did you produce this - was it just manually ? Presumably I can't use this with the new coverage right I would have to repeat what you did to achieve that ?

Ian
 
Bumpkin I remember for the last update (or the one before) you did a Mapsource file which had the Rest of Europ selected so I could transfer this across to my SD card. How did you produce this - was it just manually ? Presumably I can't use this with the new coverage right I would have to repeat what you did to achieve that ?

Hi Ian

It was done manually by selecting everything in Mapsource and then un selecting bits until I had the required file size at the bottom of the maps pane on the left. The resulting mapset is then loaded onto the internal memory of your GPS.

You then have to produce the mirror image of this for the set to load onto your SD card.

Unfortunately each map update will require a new template.

I only saved the files as an aid to others, done for oneself the work is the same.

With my Zumo 660 I can, with a bit of mucking around, still get all of Europe on. Won't be possible with with the next or subsequent updates though.
 
Ya I spoke to them about this update, they said with a bigger card I can get it all to load directly on the card (but this does not use internal memory) so if the card goes you lose all your data. The other thing I can do is update the device with the Western Europe 2013.30 and leave the 2013.10 Eastern Europe on the SD card. If I need to update this then I can do with the bits of mapping that I will need.
 
Yes, you could do it that way. Update unit to Western Europe 2013.3 and then can't you then go back for round two and put Eastern Europe on the SD card the same way?
 
Yes, you could do it that way. Update unit to Western Europe 2013.3 and then can't you then go back for round two and put Eastern Europe on the SD card the same way?

Yes if I could be arsed :) Having upgraded to Windows Media Player 11 (why the hell do you need this to use the new Map Updater) then updating all the maps I am psychologically exhausted !!
 


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