Clacks , Crunches, or cant get Neutral

[zoltan]

We'll my 2014 model arrived last week . Gear change is better but not perfect , bike doesn't jump forward in 1st on start up, 1st&2nd still clunk the rest is click. Report back after first service , that's when shit happened .
The rest of the bike ...we'll is fun

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

Mines a feb 2014 manufactured and finding neutral can be a bit tricky and second occasionally graunches. Other than that ok. Bike in dealer next week for them to look at it, and do the first service.

 

[Nutty]

Wow, lots of conspiracy theorists on here!

To clarify:

1. I didn't have any "secret" meetings with BMW, just one meeting at the dealer, which I posted about on here.

2. If my new 2014 bike had problems, I'd have no concern about posting them on here, as that's one of the points of a forum.

3. I noticed on Sunday that with normal pegs fitted, you can feel more through the gear lever on some gear changes. Some have obviously construed this as gearbox problems, but from reading other posts on here, it seems like this is a characteristic of the bike. My point is that if you are feeling more through the gear lever, try the PP's.

4. It's interesting/ typical of UKGSER users (delete as applicable ) that most people that replied to yesterday's post don't even own an LC, and also home in on any threads about issues on the bikes.

 

[Wapping]

2. ...... as that's one of the points of a forum.


4. It's interesting/ typical of UKGSER users (delete as applicable ) that most people that replied to yesterday's post don't even own an LC, and also home in on any threads about issues on the bikes.

The perils of the Forum, Nutty. It was the making (and the undoing) of several very clever Romans.

 

[Engineer]

The gear change has got better as the clutch has bedded in and worn. The gear change will be as slick as butter on a hot knife by 12,000. By 12,100 miles it will need a new clutch and the process will all start again.

I am still on the same clutch after almost 14,000 miles.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Wow, lots of conspiracy theorists on here!


4. It's interesting/ typical of UKGSER users (delete as applicable ) that most people that replied to yesterday's post don't even own an LC, and also home in on any threads about issues on the bikes.

Why shouldn't we, it's a free Forum to comment sensibly as we wish

I'm interested in GS's, having owned them since the mid 1990's and have owned all the models from a mono G/S up to and including a 1200GSA, but not yet bought a 12GS WC

So I'm interested in all things and have been riding for 35 years, so why not read, observe and comment

As for my comments on PivotPegz, they were primarily designed for offroad riding and standing up offroad, where they work best and you can use upright ankle for articulation to operate the foot controls without taking your feet off the pegs, as you have to do with normal offroad pegs.

Taking your feet off the pegs whilst stood up, can unweight the bike and cause a loss of stability - hence why they work so much better whilst standing

Sat down on a road bike, I think is not their best use, as your leg is already bent into a Z position and thus your ankle articulation is already comprised, therefore a peg that rocks back and forth, with can hamper sliding your feet fore and aft, to operate the controls successfully

Just my thoughts and experiences with PivotPegz on my bikes

 

[Engineer]

The thing is this, there is a bit of clutch drag on the LC (like many bikes) and because of this you need to make a clean, quick change to make it smooth - if you do a 'soft slow girly' change then the clutch drag can mean that it does not snick cleanly into the next up-change. Once you realise this then all is good.

P.S. 'blip' on down changes.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

The thing is this, there is a bit of clutch drag on the LC (like many bikes) and because of this you need to make a clean, quick change to make it smooth - if you do a 'soft slow girly' change then the clutch drag can mean that it does not snick cleanly into the next up-change. Once you realise this then all is good.

P.S. 'blip' on down changes.

Some good advice there, each bike is slightly different - even identical models

Every GS I've ever ridden has its own idiosyncrasies, even bikes of the same model

Jumping from bike to bike, you have to adapt and change - just a bit

 

[mcinlb]

What kind of boots do you wear ???

Stompy Boots



or

Feel the lever boots



Just asking

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Wow, lots of conspiracy theorists on here!

To clarify:

1. I didn't have any "secret" meetings with BMW, just one meeting at the dealer, which I posted about on here.

My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I called it a secret meeting. However, at the time, when asked about the detail of the meeting and what was discussed about the gearbox issues you stated that you couldn't tell. You also gave the impression at the time that the meeting was with senior WBM bods, not just a chat down the dealers.

4. It's interesting/ typical of UKGSER users (delete as applicable ) that most people that replied to yesterday's post don't even own an LC, and also home in on any threads about issues on the bikes.

I read & bung comments in most of the sections on here (look at my sad post count) 'cos bikes interest me. I've ridden a WC and know people who own them. Why shouldn't I be able to post in here. especially when it concerns a very real issue with the latest incarnation of the GS. The Hexhead section got a lot of comments, rightly, about the final drives from non owners but I don't recall owners being as defensive about their bikes
The WC section does come across as being very precious about the bike and there is an inabitly of some people to be objective.

Andres

 

[Titto]

Engineer... Here we go again! It doesn't matter how you change on mine. It's awful. Especially up from 1st, 2nd to 3rd.

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[Gossy]

Engineer... Here we go again! It doesn't matter how you change on mine. It's awful. Especially up from 1st, 2nd to 3rd.

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My only experience of the WC was earlier this week on a GSA, and into 1st no different from my 2008 GS or 2011 GSA a reasonable clunk – as other bikes over the years. I live near a pelican crossing and can hear the 1st shift often on a range of bikes.
Changing up and down in town and country… I could change as I’d thought it would, as anyone might expect so that was fine.

I really liked everything about it, I have cost of change ready.

I knew (from here), back in 2008 that FPC and EWS were much talked about, but want was need, never had any problems, never had so much fun and been to some great places.

But the demo bike was so good and not for sale, so the bike the smiling dealer hands me the keys to could be very different... or not.

Another test ride at a different dealer might seal the deal, I did like it.

 

[Packer]

I read & bung comments in most of the sections on here (look at my sad post count) 'cos bikes interest me. I've ridden a WC and know people who own them. Why shouldn't I be able to post in here. especially when it concerns a very real issue with the latest incarnation of the GS. The Hexhead section got a lot of comments, rightly, about the final drives from non owners but I don't recall owners being as defensive about their bikes
The WC section does come across as being very precious about the bike and there is an inabitly of some people to be objective.

Andres

Quite right. I don't own a WC. I rode one, detested the clutch/gearbox action and bought something else for virtually the same money so it isn't an affordability/jealousy issue.

 

[Matty589]

I've got a 14 plate GS and have had some trouble finding neutral from 1st (fine clicking up into 2nd and then back down). It had its first service today and the problem has vanished completely. Whilst I was waiting I read an article in some BMW magazine where they asked the head of warranty about issues related to the clutch. He stressed that the correct oil (and said they'd only done extensive testing with Castrol Power1) was very important but acknowledged that there may well be other issues. This was from last year so I guess nothing has changed? My clutch is now (fingers crossed) super smooth and slips into neutral easily.

 

[z7x8c9]

I've got a 14 plate GS and have had some trouble finding neutral from 1st (fine clicking up into 2nd and then back down). It had its first service today and the problem has vanished completely. Whilst I was waiting I read an article in some BMW magazine where they asked the head of warranty about issues related to the clutch. He stressed that the correct oil (and said they'd only done extensive testing with Castrol Power1) was very important but acknowledged that there may well be other issues. This was from last year so I guess nothing has changed? My clutch is now (fingers crossed) super smooth and slips into neutral easily.

Nice. I had my first service last week and nothing changed on clutch operation. It's not bad, but I have the trouble finding N and N to 1st or 1st to 2nd are clunky. The rest is smooth.

 

[Engineer]

What kind of boots do you wear ???

Stompy Boots



or

Feel the lever boots



Just asking

I have half-way house BMW Gravel Boots.

 

[Norfolk Tiger]

4. It's interesting/ typical of UKGSER users (delete as applicable ) that most people that replied to yesterday's post don't even own an LC, and also home in on any threads about issues on the bikes.

Do I own an LC no,will I own one in the future quite possibly but while threads keep appearing showing the issue is still present on the 2014 bikes i won't be owning one anytime soon.
I have been in the motor trade for 25 years and spent the first 10 at a main dealer so I'm well aware of the fact that no matter how much development and testing is done prior to release of new models it's nothing unusual to find problems arising once the new model goes on the road.

 

[Nutty]

My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I called it a secret meeting. However, at the time, when asked about the detail of the meeting and what was discussed about the gearbox issues you stated that you couldn't tell. You also gave the impression at the time that the meeting was with senior WBM bods, not just a chat down the dealers.



I read & bung comments in most of the sections on here (look at my sad post count) 'cos bikes interest me. I've ridden a WC and know people who own them. Why shouldn't I be able to post in here. especially when it concerns a very real issue with the latest incarnation of the GS. The Hexhead section got a lot of comments, rightly, about the final drives from non owners but I don't recall owners being as defensive about their bikes
The WC section does come across as being very precious about the bike and there is an inabitly of some people to be objective.

Andres

My meeting with BMW was at my dealer. Bracknell sent two senior bods to inspect the bike, and to discuss the situation with me.

I'm not bothered about comments from non owners, but there are a select few that enjoy the problem threads (yourself not included).

I'm not precious about the bike; it's just a bike, a disposable item that I won't have forever. I understandably will defend MY bike, so long as I've not had any problems with it, but if I did have any problems with it, would have no issue posting about them on here.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

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I'm not precious about the bike; it's just a bike, a disposable item that I won't have forever. I understandably will defend MY bike, so long as I've not had any problems with it, but if I did have any problems with it, would have no issue posting about them on here.

Eggzackaly, they are just lumps of metal to be ridden and used, I've yet to feel any different about my GS despite owning it for ten years now. I'm a wee bit more precious about my other bikes though but then they aren't WBM's

Don't worry about the knockers on here they are more than balanced out by the 'flip side of the coin' bollox posted by owners such as Peter Perfect etc; yin & yang, balance is maintained

Andres

 

[Engineer]

Engineer... Here we go again! It doesn't matter how you change on mine. It's awful. Especially up from 1st, 2nd to 3rd.

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If your bike really is that bad then I am sure that your dealer will agree with you and do something about it.