concealing/removing "Not for road use"

[davidgibson999]

There seems to be no powergains to be had by changing the end can so why bother?,de-cat the header pipes, this gives a better gain and a deeper bark and the coppers can't touch you ,then just sort the fueling and snorkle and you get the bike bmw want to sell you but can't

It's the full akra twin shotgun system which doesn't require you to feck about with the fueling or snorkle or de-cat the headers. No comparision IMHO. Note that the point of my post was not to debate exhausts but simply how to remove writing from a can...

 

[elefantmanshawn]

Oh ok then my advice is leave the 'not for road use' where it is,messing with it will not fool any one and only piss coppers and mot testers off,they're not stupid, its there jobs after all. I you can't do the time don't do the crime.

 

[Slowdown]

Oh ok then my advice is leave the 'not for road use' where it is,messing with it will not fool any one and only piss coppers and mot testers off,they're not stupid, its there jobs after all. I you can't do the time don't do the crime.

+1

If you think coppers are fools then I suggest you never argue with a fool as they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience.

And coppers have lots and lots of experience in dealing with fools.

 

[Uinneag]

They have to catch you first

 

[SALTY BALLS]

Oh ok then my advice is leave the 'not for road use' where it is,messing with it will not fool any one and only piss coppers and mot testers off,they're not stupid, its there jobs after all. I you can't do the time don't do the crime.

+2
like my earier point...........why take the writing off??

 

[RichieS]

NOT FOR ROAD USE

I hate to piss on preverbial bonfires, but the actual offence is not showing an 'e' mark or number. So regardless if you have taken the wording off, you are still liable
If you think that a stick on e bay number will fool a traffic cop (who will undoubtably be the one looking at your can), think again.
At the end of the day, its a bit like small index plates, if you put them on you run the risk of getting a fine. You pays yer money, you takes yer chance.

Richie

 

[elefantmanshawn]

The law changed so B.S or E numbers are not needed,it just needs to be below 98 db,no noise meters required just in their opinion it passes or fails

 

[Mav]

How can I find out if my bike meets the noise restriction level?

And as for on the spot inspections - the only reaction I got from a traffic warden on inspecting my illegally parked, no tax on display, small number plate, and not for road use can, HP2 was:

Is that your bike? It's bloody cool

 

[D6]

The law changed so B.S or E numbers are not needed,it just needs to be below 98 db,no noise meters required just in their opinion it passes or fails

absolutly right, some cops may say you need a bs or E stamp but you dont, its up to the copper or m o t man , and if they say no, tough, its a long time tryin to prove otherwise,
might i add, in most cases the cops an m o t man have more experiance and are most probably right , cops just word it wrong in my oppinion

(edit, 98db, only applys to newer bikes, not vintage or classic, without looking i think its before 1971, they can be louder if standard (or similar))

 

[(RIP) Proff]

you dont need a new mot, jus the pink slip sighned

Sorry Digger, they can actually de MOT your vehicle now, on the spot.
if you are lucky they will let you ride it the nearest MOT station.
Otherwise it's a recovery jobbie !!!
It happened to my son this January, stop lights stuck on on M5, stopped by police, they gave my son 5 minutes to see if he knew how to fix it, he didn't so it was DE MOT'd on the SPOT !!!
Gave him permission to drive to nearest MOT station, they even told him where it was and when it failed on one front bottom link bearing and they quoted £400 to fix said the vehicle could NOT be driven from the MOT station as it was on a Police [PLG9 iirc] prohibition order.
I trailered it back to Okehampton and got it RE MOT'd for £100 including the dodgy [after the excessive levering at { according to VOSA observer of the OKE MOT} Bristol mot station ] front suspension mount..
So BEWARE you can be DE MOT'D now at the side of the road

 

[D6]

i stand corrected,but does it apply to exhausts too?

 

[(RIP) Proff]

It covers anything that is tested in a normal MOT plus any dangerous parts and or illegal accessories that in the police officers opinion deem the vehicle illegal..


Bristol area police seem rather keen on issuing them

 

[davedyer]

Sorry Digger, they can actually de MOT your vehicle now, on the spot.
if you are lucky they will let you ride it the nearest MOT station.
Otherwise it's a recovery jobbie !!!
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About right. What an authorised traffic cop can do is impose a prohibition on any vehicle if there is anything dangerous on it - i.e. anything that can cause danger to anyone or is likely to immanently become detached, so an illegally loud exhaust wouldn't qualify. If it was rotted through and about to fall off then it would. The officer would issue a PG9 prohibition notice which can only be lifted by having the vehicle MOT'ed.

The officer has a book of defects that they refer to and which gives them guidance as to whether or not the defect qualifies for an immediate prohibition. This prohibition can be varied to enable the vehicle to be driven home or to a place of repair but not if it would be dangerous to do so, such as bald tyres on a wet day or defective lights at night.

Anything else will be either an Inspection Notice or Delayed Prohibition which only VOSA can issue.

VOSA is the agency who train and authorise the traffic officers.

 

[(RIP) Proff]

About right. What an authorised traffic cop can do is impose a prohibition on any vehicle if there is anything dangerous on it - i.e. anything that can cause danger to anyone or is likely to immanently become detached, so an illegally loud exhaust wouldn't qualify. If it was rotted through and about to fall off then it would. The officer would issue a PG9 prohibition notice which can only be lifted by having the vehicle MOT'ed.

The officer has a book of defects that they refer to and which gives them guidance as to whether or not the defect qualifies for an immediate prohibition. This prohibition can be varied to enable the vehicle to be driven home or to a place of repair but not if it would be dangerous to do so, such as bald tyres on a wet day or defective lights at night.

Anything else will be either an Inspection Notice or Delayed Prohibition which only VOSA can issue.

VOSA is the agency who train and authorise the traffic officers.

YEP. ****tard Copper thought that a broken brakelight switch warranted "DE MOTING on the Spot..

{ Switch was fixed with a cable tie by RAC man but the Police "officer" said it was to late as he had already revoked it's MOT }


Nothing else whatsoever was wrong with the vehicle and it had been MOT'd 6 weeks [500 miles] previously Only advisory was on the Bush that mysteriously was fully FECKED after the not so gentle Bristol MOT station that the Police officer gave him permission to drive it to..

VOSA Observer at it's Okehampton retest mentioned it might be "mystery shoppered" in the very near future


I Wonder if the MOT station provided Tea and Do'nuts to the PC's who referred vehicles to them

£400 quote.at Bristol
£100 actual cost inc Re Test in OKE

 

[Pukmeister]

Back to the original thread, my last bike had a race can that a previous owner must have tampered with, as instead of the 'Not For Road Use' band it had a plain polished stainless band fitted with new stainless rivets that you could get from fuel exhausts (intended for repacking cans)via ebay.

The bike was quiet and discrete enough, but I was pulled along with a riding buddy on a Trumpet Daytona 595 with high-level Wolf end can (no baffles). Neither of us were fined but we both got a 'presenter' and pink slip for our troubles.

The (overzealous) officer involved was trying to show off to the rookie cop with him in the Volvo , but confused as to why my 'Art pro Series 2' end can which he clearly knew wasn't road legal had no e-marking or baffles. I passed the attitude test though so I got off lightly with just the nause of taking my bike to an MOT station for the pink slip and the presenter at the local plod shop for my paperwork.

 

[davidgibson999]

A dremel fitted with attachment 511 worked a treat

 

[Micky]

point taken!

Not having a go at you Dave, just pointing out that those that failed the attitude test were 'detained' a little longer and that most often there would be other things amiss. Those that passed the attitude test were sent on their way quite amicably

Traffic cops are authorised to 'test and inspect' and mostly know their onions!

So let's be having a piccie of 'after Dremmel'

 

[Decster]

So let's be having a piccie of 'after Dremmel'

...+1

 

[davidgibson999]

Not having a go at you Dave, just pointing out that those that failed the attitude test were 'detained' a little longer and that most often there would be other things amiss. Those that passed the attitude test were sent on their way quite amicably

Traffic cops are authorised to 'test and inspect' and mostly know their onions!

So let's be having a piccie of 'after Dremmel'

Don't worry Micky I know you weren't having a go. I'll go take a phone photo shortly

 

[davidgibson999]

Here ye go: