Coping with the heat

John Roberts

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As it is now next year my thoughts are turning to a bimble to the Dordogne again with the missus. We've been there twice by car and are quite smitten with the area, this year with some gentle subliminal suggesion, (but without eliminating the possibility of eventual escalation to forceful arm twisting) I'm hoping to persuade my wife to come on the bike.

But there is one major snag: the heat and humidity. Last August I had a chat with a couple from Merseyside who had stopped for a breather in a shady lay-by in the middle of France and asked them how they were coping with the heat- on the thermometer in my car it was showing 102 Farenheit. They insisted it wasn't too much of a problem as long as they kept moving. They were both dressed in black leathers and I did find it hard to believe them, they were so obviously roasting.

So, with that sort of temperature how do you cope? Perhaps you wear textile instead of leather? Now I've read about the BMW Venting Machine (what a silly name), can that possibly make you cool, or is it just that it's not quite as sizzling as an ordinary suit? Or is it that you can happily put up with the heat? If you regularly go to hot places, and yes, there are far hotter places than France, how can you possibly enjoy having to peel off soggy, sticky clingy suits at the end of the day?

Oh, and can a cool suit still be rainproof?

I really want my wife to enjoy the trip so I would appreciate any feedback, not just on what suit to wear (or perhaps it really is all down to that) on how you cope with the problem. Thanks. :thumb2
 
Travelling all day, everyday, much above 30c gets uncomfortable.

OK, it can feel cooler on a bike as the sweat is whisked away but you are still at 30c. If you lived in the south of France, you would probably just wear a t-shirt... look at the local coppers.

I have a fully ventilated BuMW AirFlow suit which is excellent, but not even a tiny bit waterproof. It can also be bloody nippy when one starts to climb above 2000m though that is not a problem where you are going. If it rains I bung a fully waterproof oversuit over the top. Job done.

The best tip of all is to drink lots and lots and lots of water. A Camelbak is excellent. It doesn't matter if the water is warm, it is still water and you are only re-hydrating.

A dark visor (or good sun glasses) is a must as you will be riding south, straight into the sun.
 
Travelling all day, everyday, much above 30c gets uncomfortable.

OK, it can feel cooler on a bike as the sweat is whisked away but you are still at 30c. If you lived in the south of France, you would probably just wear a t-shirt.......

I live in the south but vivid memories of leaving my tissue on the road steer me away from t'shirts! We wear Draggin jeans all summer with a variety of textile jackets, when it is really hot I have a Draggin jeans bomber jacket. Last year I bought a Hein Gericke Cool jacket and that is a revelation, it really works!
Once the temperature exceeds 35c it is going to be quite unpleasant whatever you wear. The Buff neck thing soaked in water does help.

Edit. We wear EDZ stuff, that really helps!
 
I've been in Italy at around 33c in black leathers, and it wasn't too bad as long as I was moving... 2 sec after stopping the sweat started...

These days I'm just riding in my bike cloth (Stadler) without the shell in it which is fine for most cases. Only problem is my right foot; which is being cooked, but I've been told that this a design issue with the bike:augie

Bring water, lots of it....

Casper
 
I live in the south but vivid memories of leaving my tissue on the road steer me away from t'shirts!

That of course is the downside (literally and actually) :D That and the pain of hitting large insects at 70 mph.... worse still if they fly up your shorts :eek:

Bring water, lots of it....

Still remains the best tip, irrespective of what you wear. :thumb2
 
Heat...

John

I rode across the USA from Alaska to New York in between June and August last year...

My ride took me through Nevada and Utah where the temperatures averaged 40C and peaked at 51C (123F) in Death valley where I spent 2 days.

I rode in all the gear all the time and survived - despite many telling me pre trip that I wouldn't...

I rode with a North Face technical T under my hein gerrick jacket - and all was fine (but warm !!). I rode with the zipper open to allow airflow to chest and regulated temperature as best as I could that way.

Three tips:

1) Use a Kriega Hydration pack. Very comfortable and invaluable.
2) I found special neck coolers on Ebay. Worked a treat. Soak overnight in ice water and tie around your neck before you ride each day. Cools the blood to the head and lasts for at least 3 hours.
3) A full face helmet might sound hell in the heat - but above 40C it actually felt cooler to keep the "breeze" off my face. Up to 36C a breeze was welcome - above that it was too much like a blast furnace...

Hydrate regularly and rest when needed and it will be bearable.

In the more humid climates I felt tired more quickly - but again, with the right gear it was bearable for 4 to 5 hours each day.

Safe travels
 
John, If you are coming to the Dordogne and want a few ride outs then send me an email to bikesindordogne(the sign)yahoo.co.uk. I will arrange some rides and help out as much as you want. Any excuse for the wife and I to get the bikes out!
I am not running any sort of business and anything that I might do would be for our pleasure too.
 
Textile kit with lots of ventilation zips has stood me in good stead for summer trips (hottest day - 42C in Spain a few years ago). However, if possible, you need to ensure that the zip goes all the way through - if a waterproof membrane remains in place, the additional ventilation is minimal.

Examples: The Hein Gericke Tuareg suit, the Olympia jacket, and the Aerostich. I have all three (WAY too much kit :blast) and for ultimate cooling, the HG suit wins. It has a waterproof and thermal lining for cold or wet days. However, in summer showers, I simply put lightweight waterproof trousers and jacke tover the top untilt he rain stopped.
 
HG Tuareg suit:thumb

50 deg C in Turkmenistan ...soak your T shirt as often as possible and drink loads:beer: no...water:D
 
Any textile suit that you can take the lining out of and has zips.... Goretex bonded to an outer shell will heat you up quicker than a fast heating up thing.. thats the drawback to not being able to remove liners.... but its better in the wet generally... Horses for courses.
 
My tips after getting heat exhaustion in Oklahoma in 2008:

Keep yourself covered at all times
Wear technical type underwear
Do not allow too much air through your lightweight jacket and trousers as this dries the sweat and stops the natural cooling process.
About 1 hour before you leave in the morning, drink as much water as you can without drowning. This will give time for your body to completely hydrate and you can pee out the excess before you start riding.
Have a very light breakfast and no coffee
Drink a little and often through the day
Wear a buff and keep it soaked
Full face helmet with dark visor and factor 50 on you face

If you get dehydrated and don't have rehydration salts, drink lucazade and eat salty crisps as you need the sugar and salt back in your system. Another fluid is a bottle of water with a teaspoon of sugar and quarter teaspoon of salt which does the same job.

Worked for me in temps of up to 120f:thumb
 
John, If you are coming to the Dordogne and want a few ride outs then send me an email to bikesindordogne(the sign)yahoo.co.uk. I will arrange some rides and help out as much as you want. Any excuse for the wife and I to get the bikes out!

That's most kind of you, we will let you know nearer the time, it will probably be around Aug/September.

We have stayed at Le Moulin Neuf http://www.the-moulin-neuf.com/ Paunat the last couple of years and we can't wait to go back there. Actually we were disappointed to hear another guest on his seventh visit there complaining that the weather had been rubbish during his last few visits and that last year's might be his last. Would you say that the weather hasn't been as good in the past few years, or had he just been unlucky?

Of course, the weather during our visit was very good- hence the reason for this post. :)
 
John I to live in the Dordogne The best bit of kit I have is BMW AirFlow suit which is excellent
And is nice if you do get a summer down pour , it lets all the rain in !
It has been hotter in June and July for the past few years but last August was warm :cool
 
akitop desert stuff aint bad, i got the trousers, plug a hg taureg jacket, hard to beat
 
I brought my Hein Gericke Air stuff over with me when I moved to the south of France and I can't deny it works well - but nothing really helps when the sun is up and the traffic is slow (esp on twisty roads between Nice and Monaco and you can't see if it is clear to nip the white line - funny in winter it doesn't matter!).

Drink lots of water and, if you can, stop in the shade.
 
All of the above, but i would suggest getting an early start to the day when it is cooler and avoid the midday sun.
 


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