Cross-spoke wheels

[Deleted member TF]

I believe these wire wheels,standard on the GSA,an option on the GS,are a bit of a nightmare to work on/true-up. Anybody had any problems/faults with them. I'd like to have them on my next bike.
For no other reason than....I think they look good.

Copulatum expensium.

 

[tonkatoy]

In my experience they lose more pressure than the cast ones. and they run out a little as standard. But not enough to make me want to true them up.

Dave

 

[Owen Snell]

There is a load of info on advrider about this (plus a couple of posts here if you search) from Woody's Wheel Works. Basically, the wheels are not trued in the factory, rather they are clamped in a jig and set up, so some are out of true from new. If you get some and they are true, they will probably stay that way.

The only nightmare I have heard is keeping them clean.

 

[Slowdown]

I got wire wheels for free, after the alloy manufacturer went bust and BMW had the choice of selling no bikes or loading GS's with wire wheels.

The first rear wheel had a lot of 'run out' (it wobbled) and I got pulled by a friendly traffic cop who advised me to attend a dealer pronto.

Once my friendly dealer had swapped the offending rear wheel (note - others got free services and all kinds of freebies - I asked for nothing and hence got nothing)


35000 miles later.... The rims don't loose pressure, are still true and are a complete bugger to keep clean. But there's no way I'd swap them for alloys.

 

[magpie]

The only nightmare I have heard is keeping them clean.

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[Chris iow]

Yep I agree the only problem I have is cleaning the buggers.

 

[Dellis]

Having had alloys on my first 1200 I've now got spokes on my GSA. No issues with pressure loss and not too bad to clean, mine are black rather than the plain alloy versions fitted to standard GS', I use a 'brush pan and brush' type brush.

Dave

 

[elevensies]

christ, it would seem you haven't even looked at your wheels, if you did you will notice that the spokes are on the outer rim of the wheel, allowing spoke change without removing the wheel/tyre.
also because of this the rim can be run tubeless unlike ANY other spoked wheel.

so how can they loose more pressure? i cant see unless you have a bolloxed rim.


agreed, a pain to keep clean, but look so much better than cast wheels.

 

[mark71]

Ive got them

Ive had them on mine since 2006 and never had any problems with it and they look miles better that the car wheels that come as standard.

 

[ogni]

On a GS

Only spoked wheel

 

[andyclift]

First GS had alloy wheels and when sold had lots of dings in the rim from crappy roads. Now have a GSA with wire and pressure hasn't changed in 7500 miles and, so far, no dings.

Cleaning is not so hard. Muc Off and a big brush and they come up like new and bike has been used right through winter.

 

[Ash]

when i get my 1200 i will be shedding no tears to move from wire [1150]wheels to alloy[1200].
in fact i might even smile about how much easier they will be to clean.
i am purely[odd track] a road rider now so don't need wire

 

[GSband]

...
you will notice that the spokes are on the outer rim of the wheel, allowing spoke change without removing the wheel/tyre.
also because of this the rim can be run tubeless unlike ANY other spoked wheel.
...

Actually, the new Yamaha Super Ténéré has spoked wheels with tubeless tyres too. And as the spokes are fitted on the inside of the rim, the wheels are easier to clean.



(sorry )

 

[Canuck]

Actually, the new Yamaha Super Ténéré has spoked wheels with tubeless tyres too. And as the spokes are fitted on the inside of the rim, the wheels are easier to clean.



(sorry )

Not exactly inside the wheels rim though are they? More of a 'located at the center of the rim'.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

Actually, the new Yamaha Super Ténéré has spoked wheels with tubeless tyres too. And as the spokes are fitted on the inside of the rim, the wheels are easier to clean.

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(sorry )

Where's the chain?

 

[ogni]

Where's the chain?

It must be the new 1200 tenere.

How did there sort out the tubless tires with spockes in the center of the rim

Not that i would be bothered about cleaning them

 

[Canuck]

The spokes don't go to the internal section of the rim... just look at the picture. Or am I wrong

 

[Deleted account 190920001]

the rim has a flange all the way round the middle and the spoke fits to it with a 90 deg bend. The adjusting nipple is on the hub so in effect the spokes are the opposite way round to older conventional spoked wheels. The downside of doing it this way is the rim can twist as its only supported in the middle. I guess BMW has a patent for the spokes on the outside as its a much stiffer way to do it so would be the natural choice.

 

[elevensies]

the rim has a flange all the way round the middle and the spoke fits to it with a 90 deg bend. The adjusting nipple is on the hub so in effect the spokes are the opposite way round to older conventional spoked wheels. The downside of doing it this way is the rim can twist as its only supported in the middle. I guess BMW has a patent for the spokes on the outside as its a much stiffer way to do it so would be the natural choice.

correct

truing this teneree wheel will be near impossible once the distortion of the rim has taken place.
ask any proper wheel builder, and it will be laughed at.

its maybe called a tenere cos everything only costs a tenner ere and a tenner there
cheap shit

 

[ogni]

The spokes don't go to the internal section of the rim... just look at the picture. Or am I wrong

So you end up with a 1200cc trails bike back wheel

Time will tell