Dakar chain & Sprockets

[lordie]

Now Then, The time has come to replace the chain and sprockets on the dakar!
The question is, do I go for the BMW parts inc the endless chain or go for something different?

 

[dotcaf]

Hi,
Have you had a look around faq.f650.com ? It's a superb site and answers most of these things in huge detail.
I reckon that the best option is to use BMW sprockets and a good quality o or x ring chain. The endless BMW one obviously involves taking off the swing arm!

 

[Timpo]

replace the chain and sprockets on the dakar!
The question is, do I go for the BMW parts inc the endless chain or go for something different?

If the bike is out of warranty, then do your shopping here:-

http://shop.wemoto.com/index.dyn?oid=5834554

Timpo.

 

[Greg Masters]

Chains available at special tossers' prices here



Greg

 

[rc mad]

if the bmw chain has cz written on the links run away, tis crap. Go for an after market chain at least

 

[VAL. H.]

If the bike is out of warranty, then do your shopping here:-

http://shop.wemoto.com/index.dyn?oid=5834554

Timpo.

+ 1 for Wemoto.com

good service with decent prices.

Chains available at special tossers' prices here



Greg

Greg does a good deal on chains, only about £25.00 IIRC.

It does however depend as to what style of riding you do. If your into off roading or you ride hard with lots of heavy gear changes or your a little lax with the lube & adjustment, you'd be better-off paying the extra for a high quality chain like a DID Gold or the like.

If you just like to pootle or do gentle touring and your good at lubing & adjusting, then one of Greg's chains will do you very nicely. We saw 10'000mls out of one of his last year so IMO why wast your money


Val.

 

[Spout]

The endless BMW one obviously involves taking off the swing arm!

Which is simple to do, and gives you the opportunity to grease the swing arm bearings and all the shock linkage bearings whilst you're at it.

And don't forget, if you need new chain and sprockets, then a new cush drive should also be considered (especially if it's not been replaced before). A worn cush drive puts extra pressure on the sprocket carrier bearing - so check that too.

(BMW used to sell the chain, both sprockets and the cush drive as a kit, for about half the price of all the individual items)

Good luck.................

 

[Flipfly]

BM item is made of chocolate!

buy a good HD o ring chain and you will rarely adjust it. Mine did 3500 miles thrashing around the Alps and never looked at it once All for less than the BM easter bunny chain

 

[(RIP) The Wilbur]

BM item is made of chocolate!

buy a good HD o ring chain and you will rarely adjust it. Mine did 3500 miles thrashing around the Alps and never looked at it once All for less than the BM easter bunny chain

Sorry, but that's bollox.

My OE chain & sprockets lasted 24k miles, before the state of the front sprocket suggested changing the set.

This was mainly due to the addition of a Scottoiler Touring Kit, straight after the first 600 mile service.

As to the "well it gives you an excuse to grease the swing arm & suspension linkage", what's to stop you doing that anyway, regardless of c&s changing? Illogical Captain.

 

[Flipfly]

Sorry, but that's bollox.

My OE chain & sprockets lasted 24k miles, before the state of the front sprocket suggested changing the set.

This was mainly due to the addition of a Scottoiler Touring Kit, straight after the first 600 mile service.

As to the "well it gives you an excuse to grease the swing arm & suspension linkage", what's to stop you doing that anyway, regardless of c&s changing? Illogical Captain.

Not in my experience fella, but I don't have a scottoiler

I off road the crap out of mine and the chain I have on now is fantastically dureable. The BM chain I had on when I bought the bike bit the dust in no time. I could leave the house with it adjusted properly, and by the time I got back from my ride it was sagging like a pensioners boobs.

So it's not bollox, it's my experience. I ride the bike hard and IME the BM chain is over priced and nowhere near the quality of alternative chains on the market.

I also can't see an issue with using a well installed split chain. Mine has been fine and far easier to put on than the BM one.

Pays ya money ya take ya chances. Me, I like to have a few quid in my back pocket and still get a better quality item

 

[Spout]

As to the "well it gives you an excuse to grease the swing arm & suspension linkage", what's to stop you doing that anyway, regardless of c&s changing? Illogical Captain.

My point being that using a split chain doesn't really save time, as greasing the swing arm has to be done (sometime) anyway. So change of chain is just an ideal time to do it. Logical Spock.

PS - I always found the BMW c&s lasted me longer than other aftermarket items. But the front sprocket wore twice as fast as chain and rear sprocket.

 

[lordie]

Cheers for the advice fella's
The bike is on the original BMW chain now, it is ridden mainly off road and after every ride it needs a fair bit of adjustment!
It seems the rear sprocket has gone off first, although there is quite a bit of play in the cush drive and has been for some time so im guessing thats the reason.
So Im gonna spend a bit of time in the shed with her and get her fettled up! Service, C+S, Cush drive rubbers and grease the swinging arm then fingers crossed a trouble free summer of fun
Will prob get one of gregs o-ring chains and use motorworks for the rest
Oh and I promise to improve on my lubing up!!

 

[VAL. H.]

Sorry, but that's bollox.

My OE chain & sprockets lasted 24k miles, before the state of the front sprocket suggested changing the set.

This was mainly due to the addition of a Scottoiler Touring Kit, straight after the first 600 mile service.

As to the "well it gives you an excuse to grease the swing arm & suspension linkage", what's to stop you doing that anyway, regardless of c&s changing? Illogical Captain.

Afraid I don't agree with this either. Err sorry

A modern chain fitted to the 650s and ridden normally should last at least 24'000mls without an oiler fitted.
With an oiler fitted and working the 650 chain should last about 35'000mls

I had an oiler on my GSXR1100 and didn't need to adjust the chain at all in over 5000mls.

SWMBO's 650 was bought with 8'000mls on the clock, so it's reasonable to assume it still had the original chain (no oiler) I had to be replace it before the bike reached 10'000mls.
The DID replacement has now done over 10'000mls and been adjusted only once or twice (still no oiler fitted).

Speaks for it's self really


Val.

 

[Flipfly]

Afraid I don't agree with this either. Err sorry

A modern chain fitted to the 650s and ridden normally should last at least 24'000mls without an oiler fitted.
With an oiler fitted and working the 650 chain should last about 35'000mls

I had an oiler on my GSXR1100 and didn't need to adjust the chain at all in over 5000mls.

SWMBO's 650 was bought with 8'000mls on the clock, so it's reasonable to assume it still had the original chain (no oiler) I had to be replace it before the bike reached 10'000mls.
The DID replacement has now done over 10'000mls and been adjusted only once or twice (still no oiler fitted).

Speaks for it's self really


Val.

So I'm not on my own then mine lasted 12,000 miles and stretched alarmingly between cornwall and stke on trent, re adjusted and then it streched enough to come off the rear sprocket after the next 2 rides (which were only local!!!!).

New chain has been abused in mud and grime, rarely looked after and yet still hardly ever needs adjusting.