Does anyone from Touratech check out this forum?

And to me - the Internet is the Internet, I don't really care where the physical location of the servers are, and preventing me (because I live in Norway) from buying from Germany seems wrong. Surely this is against EU regulations or what not?

I thought Norway was not in the European Union :thumb I'm being pedantic of course.

Talk about missing a trick and I thought Germans were organised....:blast

I worked on creating a German version of a UK website. It was insightful to see how things differed between the two countries with regard to ecommerce. Billing is different and because of the nature of German product descriptions were often longer thus causing issues with menu layout. Germany also uses the comma instead of the decimal point which caused a headache for our DBA. Of course you probably know all this already.
 
Being the King in my thiefdom I don't need to know, all I need to know is where the right people are or can be found who can solve the problem.

Ask The bloke would runs Virgin Atlantic if he know how the olives get in his inflight vegetarian meals and you'll get much the same answer....I would have thought...

if your tool or model fell over, or did not work in it's specified application. It's a fault of the code or incorrect application of knowledge and not anything other than that.

2 eye's, 2 ear's, 1 mouth

Look, Listen, then consider, ask, listen again, look again then and only then think about speaking.

:thumb2
 
Lamble, I'm not entirely without knowledge of the situation

Didn't see you at the recent company meeting! and culture at TTUK, apart from anything else I have been, or have tried to be a customer of theirs many times over a decade or so.

TTUK hasn't been in business for 10 years yet.

I'm not entirely sure that bad mouthing customers in an open forum (which you did on page one of this thread)

From page one, just to save people looking it up.

I lived in Seattle and used Touratech there extensively. I was really impressed with how well they coped considering they were a new business setting up.

I was so impressed with Touratech and their products that when I returned to the UK, after a ride to Colombia turned into a personal disaster, without a home, or a job, or any income, that I sent my CV to Touratech in the UK and managed to get a job there.

What I've found is a small team of people trying to do their best and where ever possible busting a gut to help customers out. I hear anecdotal complaints, like "I've heard of someone who knows someone who...etc..."mainly within this forum, which I have been a member of for several years and only in the last few months as a TT employee.

Pricing is an issue, but is always being looked at. Products we source in the UK and ship to Germany are for example, cheaper here than there, as you would expect.

We are increasing stock held here in the UK, and for that we don't have 7-10 working days from Germany is currently at 98.7% on arrival within that time.

As far as getting any of the issues here resolved, I'm happy for you to email me directly. I'll also be looking into the report that someone was told to come back because a part was in a box but the box wasn't open, just to see if this is hearsay, if it's correct, or if there was a genuine reason why this happened.

Unfortunately, as just a minnow in the TT UK team there may be little I can do other than raise this issue, but raise it I will.

Thank you.


Draw your own conclusions about the accuracy and the accusation.


Yep, had a good ride out, saw some GSes, but not to speak to. Ended up tagging along with a group of cruiser riders, who were looking for B roads to Builth Wells and they found some beauties. So all in all, a good day. Now to catch up with MotoGP.
 
Lo IQ,

you have been quite close to the situation a couple of times. The arrangement isn't what I'd call a conventional franchise either, it's not as clear cut as those I've experience of working with.

We should have a drink at some point, as I'm sure you have some experiences I could learn from, and you could see where I was coming from too.

Anyway, Red Button Moto2.
 
I don't know about changing the culture at TTUK, Lamble - seems to me you'll fit right in, if you haven't gone native already.
 
Oi Nemo
Resolved at post number 16, then, ................ Plug
Plug.............
plugety plug
The big build up golden Plug

Or perhaps letting people know they can come to TT and formulate their own opinions based on what they experience now.



Better payment terms ?
Yep, same price but longer to pay and a sale or return on our next order. Never had one of those before from Germany.


I can see where your coming from Nemo but surely a lot of the price reduction is to do with the global climate and more specific with TTuk the UK, and the pressure of growing competition taking a big share of sales, with there lower price, good service and products.

Competition is a factor of course. Not sure I'd say they were taking a big share though. Seems most are very niche and do a good job with one or two products, where as TTUK have a 5000 product line.

As for service, that's what this thread is about. I refer you back to the plugs, what TT are saying is come and try for yourself now, then make your own mind up. Even Stolzy will tell you he received excellent advice in a timely manner, when he contacted us last week. Granted it may be said reluctantly.


when are you going to subscribe?

My personal subscription ran out recently and will be renewed...personally, that way I can when called upon respond to TTUK questions, but when not on that topic still use the Forum as a member. It also means that when people decide that where I work means they are able to post personal comments, I should be able to use my personal membership as a UKGSer to request them to be more respectful.

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I hope the above covers your points.
 
I hope the above covers your points.

In an answer for everything sort of way and kind of politicaly wishy washy. and you missed the points where I said that you went off the rails and putting the thread in beackchat and bollox, errrr yep.

Dont get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish it all, I think like others have said you have come accross in stating that TTuk are improving all aspects (all beit in a one man band kind of way) which is good for the customer :thumb2

Personaly I would have like to have seen it from TTuk direct in an open add in the vendors section here other forums and perhaps motorcycle publications.
I mean it must be the law of average surely the bad history can not be limited to UKgsers unless all customers are considered tossers (JOKE)

But the bad history is taken as a personal thing and most people never forget that bad service that you have received unless you get that apology for it and or the smooth over freebies.

As for the recent price reduction as you stated: "Better payment terms ?
Yep, same price but longer to pay and a sale or return on our next order. Never had one of those before from Germany."

Ok I understand that you say TTuk are pulling in more stock from Germany on a sale and return policy on your next order but if there not lowering your prices how does that allow TTuk to make this reduction? (other than it being previously over inflated and the bigest known gripe)

I Did not know until this thread that TT was different to TTuk and wondered why people talked about riding to TT Germany and purchasing direct i thought it was one company not a franchise middle man inflating the the prices.

I mean why cant I as a UK resident purchase from anywhere in euroland for instance directly with German TT if there that much lower priced, competition is good and most monopolies are illegal. For instance if you buy a new Ford car you would expect the price to be the same dealership wide but there not you have to go compare.

you mention about the competition having an effect as in most cases with out a doubt far cheaper, great products and general good service. you might state that TTuk product line being 5000+ but the others are growing and collectively is a huger impact.. years ago TT had little competition but Today is different thank god for competition, every little helps :D (tesco) :D :blast




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In an answer for everything sort of way and kind of politicaly wishy washy. and you missed the points where I said that you went off the rails and putting the thread in beackchat and bollox, Oh you were being serious there?errrr yep.

Dont get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish it all, I think like others have said you have come accross in stating that TTuk are improving all aspects (all beit in a one man band kind of way) which is good for the customer :thumb2


Personaly I would have like to have seen it from TTuk direct in an open add in the vendors section here other forums and perhaps motorcycle publications.

Keep an eye on MCN.


I mean it must be the law of average surely the bad history can not be limited to UKgsers unless all customers are considered tossers (JOKE)

But the bad history is taken as a personal thing and most people never forget that bad service that you have received unless you get that apology for it and or the smooth over freebies.

As for the recent price reduction as you stated: "Better payment terms ?
Yep, same price but longer to pay and a sale or return on our next order. Never had one of those before from Germany."

Ok I understand that you say TTuk are pulling in more stock from Germany on a sale and return policy on your next order but if there not lowering your prices how does that allow TTuk to make this reduction? (other than it being previously over inflated and the bigest known gripe)

Better cash flow and not having money tied up in stock that's sitting on a shelf, means we have more flexibility to reduce costs

I Did not know until this thread that TT was different to TTuk and wondered why people talked about riding to TT Germany and purchasing direct i thought it was one company not a franchise middle man inflating the the prices.

You can call it inflating the price if you wish, I'd see it as an operating margin...and bringing the products to the UK so you don't need to ride to Germany to buy. But if you do, it's a great ride around the TTAg location.

I mean why cant I as a UK resident purchase from anywhere in euroland for instance directly with German TT if there that much lower priced, competition is good and most monopolies are illegal. For instance if you buy a new Ford car you would expect the price to be the same dealership wide but there not you have to go compare.

you mention about the competition having an effect as in most cases with out a doubt far cheaper, great products and general good service. you might state that TTuk product line being 5000+ but the others are growing and collectively is a huger impact.. years ago TT had little competition but Today is different thank god for competition, every little helps :D (tesco) :D :blast

I'm sure that everyone in the market tries their best to produce the best products, at the optimum price and with service that attracts customers. TT is no different in that sense, except the resources available to TT thanks to the German HQ, mean that offering 5000 plus products is possible, even if some of the less regularly ordered parts have to be made to order almost, in which case 7-10 days delivery is pretty impressive...it impressed me as a customer when I was in the USA, and it impresses me now I'm in the UK and get to see how many customers are delivered the parts they want, at a price they believe reasonable, for the quality of product and service they receive.

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Now once again, sun is shining, so off out riding. See you on the road perhaps.
 
I don't know about changing the culture at TTUK, Lamble - seems to me you'll fit right in, if you haven't gone native already.
Are you on some kind of personal crusade Mr Stolzy? or are you just enjoying yourself sniping at Touratech and their employee because you know he can't come back and tell you that you're a miserable,shit stirring ****. If you've got a problem with Touratech you should be sorting it out on the 'phone. Not on here,bigging yourself up and trying to justify your whinging by pretending to be doing it all for everyone else's benefit. Fuck off.
 
There is a question which needs to be asked "Who appointed you Witch Finder General Mr. Stolzy?"

if matey makes a change great, if not we'll know about it soon enough.

If you feel that strongly about it why not call the Germans and try the dazz challenge, which is have a go yourself. Money will always be listened to after all they are in business to make money. If you've got the answers then lets see'em.

If you really need TT stuff for your bike, you could buy from Nippy's who has TT products on his website they must come from some place. An alternative is Adventure Spec they have nice looking stuff too and seem to be comitted to building a brand. Rugged Roads who are on this forum have nice stuff, I've even got some on my bike so it must be good....:thumb2

In the meantime could you just wind it in abit....life's too short....:blast

I've got to ask "Your not French by any chance...!":augie
 
I look on most touratech parts as over expensive and over complicated.


I have the ability and know how to fabricate my bolt on parts that touratech sell.

Most owners dont have an engineering , or fabrication know how.


But my question is , parts are mass produced , so they dont cost much to make in the long run.

Why charge riders lots of money for bent poorly coated bits of ally?

ie the crud catcher, and main stand cover for the 1100,1150 series.


I couldnt find a picture of the TT version of the R1100GS headlight adjuster:nenau

A complicated with series of cogs , just so the user can turn the headlight up and down, without using the stupid piddly spanner on the OE adjuster.


My version i made up to my problem of the headlight adjustment on the 1100 is...this
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I made this up ,not knowing previous owners had done the same, but it seemed the most logical solution.


I had the means of making this modification on my old lathe, and have sold a few on.
But not charged anything like TT would want.


This isnt a dig , but a reasonable question , as why your products are priced very high to the actual manufacturing costs allowing for the usual product , advertising , running costs etc....

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Are you on some kind of personal crusade Mr Stolzy? or are you just enjoying yourself sniping at Touratech and their employee because you know he can't come back and tell you that you're a miserable,shit stirring ****. If you've got a problem with Touratech you should be sorting it out on the 'phone. Not on here,bigging yourself up and trying to justify your whinging by pretending to be doing it all for everyone else's benefit. Fuck off.
My problems with TT are in the past, but since I was so royally pissed off with them and the extremely poor way I was treated, I am more than happy to pass on my experience to others.

This has two benefits, it vents my spleen when I was left out of pocket and with no other recourse by TTUK and it might warn some others about how TTUK can treat their customers.

I don't recall you being elected to arbiter of who posts what on here, maybe I missed a meeting - in any case, I'm more than happy to ignore your foul-mouthed diatribe
 
I went to TT Germany last week

I bought some things, asked for a discount but they said they had none:(

The pretty German girl on the counter gave me a free TT keyring (RRP 5 Euro) as a gift and thanked me for my visit

The things I bought would have cost £10 more in TTUK or thereabouts at an exchange rate of 1.15, however if the Puond:Euro was better, I would have saved £20-30 - but maybe TTUK prices would have been cheaper too in that scenario....Not big buns:D

The coffee in the canteen was excellent and the was wholesome food at good prices

The store was massive and well laid out, but you needed time to take it all in

We went to Wunderlich in Germany too and they were very helpful and looked after us well, with some promotional freebies
 

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Johnny, glad you enjoyed the visit.

Now unfortunately as this thread has descended to a level where I'm not happy to contribute any further, either on a company and certainly not a personal basis, I bid you a fond farewell.

Anyone wishing to contact me at Touratech about business matters can do so:

stephen at touratech dot co dot uk
 
Johnny, glad you enjoyed the visit.

Now unfortunately as this thread has descended to a level where I'm not happy to contribute any further, either on a company and certainly not a personal basis, I bid you a fond farewell.

Shame...............

Personally I've never had a problem with TTUK or Germany

If you accept the way they do business, fine................if you don't............. buy something else

TT aren't forcing you to trade with them.......................if you want to accept their terms and buy

Sometimes you have to think outside the box and do it that way:thumb
 


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