Don't buy an intercom system yet!

[(RIP) Shenzi]

Who started this thread.......... you got anything to say?????

Yep, shit happens! Do you really own a GS or are you just a wannabee? The point being that you are making so much noise about a purchase by someone else what will happen if your own FPR fails? Heart attack? I'm always a little suspicious about such vitriol from a third party, is your friend incapable of sorting it himself or do you have another agenda?

I have been away so I didn't see this kicking off. As I feel a responsible considering the good write up I gave the Evo2 I called the factory today.

txce..... Did you get a response to your email? If not send it again.

As with all new things glitches occur and as most of us help to develop the GS we are aware of this more than most!
The two main problems with the Evo2 have been some faulty leads which have or are being replaced and some people have had trouble loading the drivers which in the main has been human error.
So many people compare Intaride with another well known competitor which isn't really comparing like for like, prices for one thing without even getting to the advances of the Evo2. Do other companies offer trade-ins?
I don't have any financial ties with Intaride but I do support them when I can, they are good guys trying to give us an innovative product at a reasonable price.

 

[Jacal]

The problems with the 660 are endless from bluetooth problems to blank screens on navigation to lack of detail, I was riding out of Stratford Upon Avon a week ago and the A46 wouldn't show up for ages, looked like I was riding in thin air, I know the 1200's are alot lighter than the old 1150's but there not that light

I hope I'am not 'tempting fate' BUT I've been using a GPS since the SP111, then the 2610, Zumo 500 and now the 660 and all of then have performed faultless.....Maybe I've been lucky,

Allthough I still struggle with Mapsource, the ONLY other trouble I've had is when they introduced the phone feature, which is great in theory BUT useless in practice, unless you want to invest stupid money and most importantly your time and sanity trying to get it to work with a comms system!!!

To be honest I have had my fill from so called "Comms companys" that think they can charge you the earth for thier product then 'Oh' I'm sorry sir you need this extra cable/this little magic box to make it work, 'KERCHING'

Then when that fails, it's the Zumo's fault, 'WELL' that just may be BUT WHY DID'NT YOU SAY THAT BEFORE YOU TOKE MY MONEY!!!!

REMEMBER ALL! if you spend this kind of money with any other form of product ie TV, Audio system and it did'nt work, you sure as hell wouldn't have to log on to a website to try to get answers on how to fix it yourself!....if you don't believe me, just look at this 'Bike Comms' forum and see how many post relate to problems with there so called systems.

RANT OVER

 

[trebor]

REMEMBER ALL! if you spend this kind of money with any other form of product ie TV, Audio system and it did'nt work, you sure as hell wouldn't have to log on to a website to try to get answers on how to fix it yourself!....

Yes, but if you bought your components for your audio system from different suppliers and their interfaces didn't match you'd have the same problem. There are numerous Sat Navs on the market as there are numerous comms systems. There will, I am sure, be many different combinations and solutions to get them to work together and, to do so, you will need the right interfaces. When new products are introduced, whose interfaces have changed, it sometimes takes a short while for other product manufacturers to fully appreciate what all the issues are and recommend the correct solutions for each problem. For example, I believe the Zumo 660 bluetooth option for seperating the audio for mobile comms from music and navigational instructions is different to that of the Zumo 550 and therefore there are problems getting it to work properly with Autocom systems. This is hardly the fault of Autocom and may well be sorted out with a future Zumo software update (if it's not already been resolved).

When I got my Zumo 550, Autocom AVI, and Kenwood radios I made sure I read all the relevant info about installations and connectivity with mobile phones on websites dedicated to these issues, and ensured I had the right interfaces and cables to do the job. It all worked superbly first time. However, I am a telecoms engineer so I have a head start on most. Since then I have looked at a few installations for other people that have had problems, generally I have found that they have either used the wrong cables or connected them up incorrectly.

Bob

 

[Jacal]

When I got my Zumo 550, Autocom AVI, and Kenwood radios I made sure I read all the relevant info about installations and connectivity with mobile phones on websites dedicated to these issues, and ensured I had the right interfaces and cables to do the job. It all worked superbly first time. However, I am a telecoms engineer so I have a head start on most. Since then I have looked at a few installations for other people that have had problems, generally I have found that they have either used the wrong cables or connected them up incorrectly.

Bob

Bob, I hear what your saying BUT your been very selective with your quote and answer. I work in the radio TV field and know my way around the associated disciplines (My spectrum analyzer from my elbow)

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"and ensured I had the right interfaces and cables to do the job."

Silly me I thought that was what would be in the boxes, you would expect to get the "right interfaces" from the supplier when you specify what you want in the first place!!



If after all that it still doesn't work and you've gone down the route of paying for cables they then say you need, then 'yes' it could be in a faulty installation....Well all I can say is there must be a hell of a lot of 'thick hairy arsed bikers' on this site! because there isn't a darn lot of combination you can plug into with these leads!

But there's always that old chestnut for them to fall back on "it must be your speakers position"


I could go on but it would only fall on deaf ears.

 

[nedflanders]

It took a couple of attempts to get my Evo1 and 2610 set up but I've had nearly 3 years of problem free comms, now I've got the Zumo 660 they've been nothing but helpful in setting everything up. As far as speaker position is concerned it took a few attampts to get it right but I've never had an issue with volume, although every bike/rider/helmet combo is different, it must be Intarides fault they don't account for the thousands of combinations
Maybe it just needs someone with a bit of common sense to set the system up

 

[AndrewD]

Well looks like my post was deleted, cheers guys don't know the Nazi's were back!

 

[(RIP) Shenzi]

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To be honest I have had my fill from so called "Comms companys" that think they can charge you the earth for thier product then 'Oh' I'm sorry sir you need this extra cable/this little magic box to make it work, 'KERCHING'

Then when that fails, it's the Zumo's fault, 'WELL' that just may be BUT WHY DID'NT YOU SAY THAT BEFORE YOU TOKE MY MONEY!!!!

I used to buy from the same company and it was the constant 'KERCHING' that sent me to Intaride. With them I have had a couple of problems but they have been sorted out amicably without the dreaded 'KERCHING' noise!

 

[Deleted account 220427002]

Well looks like my post was deleted, cheers guys don't know the Nazi's were back!

BHT deleted it because he thought it Libellous

It may seem a wee bit harsh but Being that you've only had 3 posts you could be someone just coming on to air a gripe... it's happened quiet a few times in the past.. if you'd been a more established site member and a bit more sign of proof it may have got left..
If you can provide some more proof of what went on i'm sure you could post it again... the way it read was like someone had sour grapes(while all you wrote may well be true but just putting Interide not interested was not telling a full fair account of what happened)

 

[Taro]

Slightly back to the original topic...I've been trying to buy an Intaride Evo-2 comms system but they don't appear to be available for purchase at present. I've had no response from them to me asking this question so does anyone on here know when they will be available again? (and will they still be at the same 'intro' price?)

 

[Jacal]

I used to buy from the same company and it was the constant 'KERCHING' that sent me to Intaride. With them I have had a couple of problems but they have been sorted out amicably without the dreaded 'KERCHING' noise!

I'll second that Shenzi.

 

[(RIP) Shenzi]

Slightly back to the original topic...I've been trying to buy an Intaride Evo-2 comms system but they don't appear to be available for purchase at present. I've had no response from them to me asking this question so does anyone on here know when they will be available again? (and will they still be at the same 'intro' price?)

Taro, like most businesses Intaride are dependent on componenet suppliers so they are waiting for new bits. If you check their website they explain they are out of stock and suggest you register to be informed by email when the Evo2 is available again.
I haven't got an Evo2 yet! Hope I am high on the list!

 

[nedflanders]

I did have an Evo2 but sent it back to get the bluetooth upgrade as Garmin has addressed one problem with the Zumo's bluetooth, I was very impressed when I had it and looking forward to getting it back again

 

[AndrewD]

BHT deleted it because he thought it Libellous

It may seem a wee bit harsh but Being that you've only had 3 posts you could be someone just coming on to air a gripe... it's happened quiet a few times in the past.. if you'd been a more established site member and a bit more sign of proof it may have got left..
If you can provide some more proof of what went on i'm sure you could post it again... the way it read was like someone had sour grapes(while all you wrote may well be true but just putting Interide not interested was not telling a full fair account of what happened)

Hmm, well Interide cost me anf a friend about £400, I'm very glad I bailed and went to another system! Funny thing is that unless you HAVE to have radio my Zumo does everything the Interide/Starcom etc does!

Bottom line is that the Evo1 had terrible volume issues and what is the first thing advertised on the Evo2........Better volume!

Apart from that it was a very cheap plastic enclosure with silly little volume controls mounted on the outside, compared with others in high impact nylon plastic or alloy extrusion.

Over the last 4 years I've become a dab hand at setting up comms and installing helmet headsets etc....

 

[AndrewD]

DOH, Double post.....

Anyway I got my GS today (whoop whoop)

 

[nedflanders]

Over the last 4 years I've become a dab hand at setting up comms and installing helmet headsets etc....

If you don't need radio, (I presume bike to bike) or intercom why did you buy one rather than relying on the Zumo
I still can't understand how you had volume issues with the Evo 1, I use a Schuberth C2 helmet, don't need earplugs and have never needed to turn the volume up past 3/4s, anymore and it would just be painful, maybe your not quite the dab hand at speaker placement or the helmets your using are particularly bad. If you do have a noisy helmet you way want to go down the in-ear monitors route.

 

[(RIP) Shenzi]

Hmm, well Interide cost me anf a friend about £400, I'm very glad I bailed and went to another system! Funny thing is that unless you HAVE to have radio my Zumo does everything the Interide/Starcom etc does!

Bottom line is that the Evo1 had terrible volume issues and what is the first thing advertised on the Evo2........Better volume!

Apart from that it was a very cheap plastic enclosure with silly little volume controls mounted on the outside, compared with others in high impact nylon plastic or alloy extrusion.

Over the last 4 years I've become a dab hand at setting up comms and installing helmet headsets etc....

Intaride cost you £400? Yet more claims that sound like wind and piss! If you paid that money for equipment that doesn't work and you didn't resolve it with them then you may have more money than sense.
Which Zumo do you have? I have a 550 and it certainly won't do what my Evo1 does nor did it come with headsets. I note you now include Starcom in your comments, have you had one of those also?

No question that Intaride could put the Evo in a better case but that would put the price up, have you actually compared the prices out there? I just couldn't justify paying £500-600 for a comms unit but that is just personal preference, each to his own.

Now you are a dab hand at comms please enlighten us and tell us which unit you use and the reasons you chose it.

 

[Jacal]

Now you are a dab hand at comms please enlighten us and tell us which unit you use and the reasons you chose it.

Wouldn't mind knowing that misen

I'm looking for a system that will work with the Zumo 660, do GPS directions, Rider to pillion, Stereo music, Bike to bike and PHONE Will work out of the box with NO AUDIO ISSUESand doesn't cost as much as a Sony 1080p LCD TV!

That last little bit puts it into perspective 'don't ya think'

I'm willing to buy from an authorized dealer (always do anyway) on the understanding that they will fix it if it doesn't work! they are your dealers, they work for you so they should know how to fix them.

NOW for all those Comms companys out there, the gauntlet is thrown down, can you deliver? If you can't then say so! at least we will know where we stand.

 

[(RIP) Shenzi]

Wouldn't mind knowing that misen

I'm looking for a system that will work with the Zumo 660, do GPS directions, Rider to pillion, Stereo music, Bike to bike and PHONE Will work out of the box with NO AUDIO ISSUESand doesn't cost as much as a Sony 1080p LCD TV!

That last little bit puts it into perspective 'don't ya think'

I'm willing to buy from an authorized dealer (always do anyway) on the understanding that they will fix it if it doesn't work! they are your dealers, they work for you so they should know how to fix them.

NOW for all those Comms companys out there, the gauntlet is thrown down, can you deliver? If you can't then say so! at least we will know where we stand.

Intaride are out of stock so they are out of it and if I don't get an Evo2 in the next batch I am going to start slagging them off

I'm sure all the comms companies have their good and bad points, you pays your money and takes your choice! I find whatever one buys if you establish a good relationship with the vendors one invariably receives good service, if the product has a problem shouting the house down from the beginning will end up with closed doors.

 

[Jacal]

I hear what your saying Shenzi but when I pay for something I expect good service and not have to pay extra for it.

I try to treat everyone with respect, if it's not reciprocated, I treat them with the respect they deserve.

The cost of these system beggars believe, you can literally buy a good quality television for the same cost and I'm sure no one on here would stand for it, if it gave you a muted sound on some of the stations, you would be up in arms and rightly so!

BUT if that's what people want then who am I to argue.


Stands down from the soapbox and walks away.

 

[(RIP) Shenzi]

The cost of these system beggars believe, you can literally buy a good quality television for the same cost and I'm sure no one on here would stand for it, if it gave you a muted sound

Given that most of the systems now cost a fortune one has to assume that is the market, I doubt many are making fortunes. Some of them look really good but on this particular item I go for function over form and I revert to being a tight Yorkshireman.