Drive shaft advice

tanneman

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A bit of advice and a some advice needed.

The issue on my bike is unlikely to be affecting low mileage bikes.

During a post service test ride a vibration was noted through the foot pegs. The service tech pulled the driveshaft and noticed that the bearing was notchy when swivelling the UJ end. Ok, the bike has done 30k and it was well looked after.

Here is the thing that is probably overlooked on the drive shafts seeing everybody is concerned about rusty splines. Due to the engineering of a UJ the drive transmitted through it is phased. Unlike a CV (constant velocity) joint.

The power transmitted is linear with the shaft in a perfect straight line. When the drive is required to change through an angle the physics gets more interesting. With the UJ perfectly aligned in the vertical and horizontal plane there is negligible loss of drive, as the UJ rotates the 2 swivels can't really cope with the drive transmission, ie there is drag or resistance up to a maximum at 45° angle of rotation from where the drag decreases until the UJ are in a perfect vertical/horizontal plane. This happens for every 90° of rotation.

Over time the bearings wear a grove and play develops. This play introduce a vibration that will accelerate wear in the bearing as it rotates. As Steptoe has said before, the problem is not at the gearbox output shaft but most certainly at the final drive. Whilst you lubricate the splines on your high mileage bike, it might be worth feeling if there is any wear in the bearing itself. As you can see in the pics below there is not a lot of movement were the wear is. Moving the UJ past that point there is noticeable difference in how tight the bearing feels.
 

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Now that it is off and I'm fitting a new one. How do line the splines up?
 
Now that it is off and I'm fitting a new one. How do line the splines up?

As above

The shaft itself is phased, the yolks at each end will be aligned with each other to eliminate vibration

The speed of rotation of the shaft is not constant but aligning the UJ yolks means that the outer ends will turn at the same speed
 
The rear splines won't be a problem. It is lining up the front to the gearbox output shaft.
 
Now that it is off and I'm fitting a new one. How do line the splines up?

Lining the splines up between drive shaft and final drive to refit it is a dark art. Sometimes it just slides in. Sometimes you need to use wires, straps and special magic incantations. It will also involve at least one black fingernail.

Whatever you do when doing this, make sure you have the means to bolt the housing in place immediately to hand. Nothing more frustrating than taking 45 minutes of jiggling and swearing to eventually get it to slide in, then realise the bolt is over the other side of the garage and can't be reached.
 
So shocks and final drive are likely to fail around 30k
Brillisnt these bikes

The shocks or suspension in general needs to be serviced more regularly than people think. What else is keeping the tyre in contact with the road. I should've done it a long time ago, like 10k ago.

With the increase in weight and increase in power but the drive shaft remains the same what do you expect. It will be wearing quicker.
 
Easy peasy. Jobs a good one.

Nipped into my local to have a chinwag with the faces I haven't seen for a good long time and to get the torque spec for all the bolts I took off.

Cheers for that stick.

Sent from my SM-G996B using Tapatalk
 
Easy peasy. Jobs a good one.

Nipped into my local to have a chinwag with the faces I haven't seen for a good long time and to get the torque spec for all the bolts I took off.

Cheers for that stick.

Sent from my SM-G996B using Tapatalk

No worries :beerjug:
 
The shocks or suspension in general needs to be serviced more regularly than people think. What else is keeping the tyre in contact with the road. I should've done it a long time ago, like 10k ago.

With the increase in weight and increase in power but the drive shaft remains the same what do you expect. It will be wearing quicker.

I expect it to be a round the world "unstoppable" bike - top of its class :D

Lets face it they have been making these types of bikes for a while now
 
Given that the earth is about 25k miles in circumference I'm confident that it will go around it given my experience. Even a Tomos would do it :D
 


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