Electrickery...

[Phill Elston]

Went to fit a PDM60 today.

Found a point to site the unit ✓ Seat is in Low/Hi position so it will fit on the ECU as other people have.
Run POS wire to battery ✓ Easy to achieve from there
connect trigger wire to switched positive.... X WTF??

Look on internet - Find article - http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/installing-a-rowe-electronics-pdm60-on-a-r1200gsw.928394/

This article describes... "I pulled the switched 12V signal for the ignition trigger from the sma
ll fusebox at the rear of the tank cover -- I used the red wire with a brown stripe. (This wire is associated with the 7.5 amp fuse described at p.137 of the U.S. user manual.)"

That wiring must be for the US spec bike because when I peeled back the cover on that wire group I see Red with Blue, Red with Grey, Red with Green and Red...

I tried the Red with green (as it seemed to go to the point/fuse that the article described) but it doesn't seem to work. (I don't have a test light)

Who else has fitted a PDM60 to a UK spec LC and where did you pick up your trigger please?

 

[gerarddwatts]

I used the tail light wire under the rear seat. Red/grey as I recall but I'll find out for sure and let you know.

Grey with a red tracer. You have to carefully cut through the wrapping of the bundle that runs fore and aft under the rear seat. Easy though.

 

[Phill Elston]

I used the tail light wire under the rear seat. Red/grey as I recall but I'll find out for sure and let you know.

Grey with a red tracer. You have to carefully cut through the wrapping of the bundle that runs fore and aft under the rear seat. Easy though.

The one with the yellow bands in the 2nd photo? Looks VERY fine (ergo - I guess - it's an LED wire) will it take a posi-tap OK?

 

[fredaroony]

That's why I suggested the HEX EZCan in the first post you made asking this question Also, use the grey/red wire in the back.

 

[kurienp]

The one with the yellow bands in the 2nd photo? Looks VERY fine (ergo - I guess - it's an LED wire) will it take a posi-tap OK?

Yes. Use posi tap and you will be fine. Let me know if you need a pic.

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[Phill Elston]

That's why I suggested the HEX EZCan in the first post you made asking this question Also, use the grey/red wire in the back.

Sorry, don't remember your prior reply to earlier post... But I'd already bought the PDM. "...use the grey/red wire in the back" is not actually as descriptive as you might think.

Thanks anyway.

 

[Phill Elston]

Yes. Use posi tap and you will be fine. Let me know if you need a pic.

It would be useful. Thank you very much.

 

[AP11 LAD]

I've connected my pdm60 in same way and posi tap works perfect

 

[fredaroony]

Sorry, don't remember your prior reply to earlier post... But I'd already bought the PDM. "...use the grey/red wire in the back" is not actually as descriptive as you might think.

Thanks anyway.

No worries. It's the red/grey one in the bottom picture and yes you can positap it like AP11 LAD said.

 

[Phill Elston]

Cheers. Feeling better now. We'll see what tomorrow brings

 

[duckspeed]

What is a PDM 60?

 

[fredaroony]

What is a PDM 60?

http://bfy.tw/B5gJ

 

[Phill Elston]

It was all going so well...

First thing this morning I went out to get this damned thing sorted. Located the wire, got the posi-tap connector, went to put it under the wire... slipped and heard a plastic rattle as it fell into the abyss that is the well under the rear furniture (expletive deleted!!) Of course, its the only posi-tap I have so it needs to be retrieved, which obviously isn't going to be straight forward is it?
I try "fishing with a dob of blutack on a piece of wire. NADA.
The frustration and rage were building.
I tried using "the force" but it appears I'm as much a Jedi as I am an electro-mechanical whizz!

So I had a cuppa and got the T40 key out to remove the rear rack. The two rearmost upper bolts were, I thought "quite tight". Then I went to remove the front left one. The others really weren't tight - compared with this one... Out Torx sockets. SNAP!! Not the bolt thank god, but the socket bit.

So in the car and down to my 'local' (15 miles away - living in the country does suck in SOME ways) auto-factors and bought a new bit - at an eye-watering £12!

Back along the country roads encountering the biggest thundering rockwombles (intentional miss-spelling) that Wiltshire can muster. I can contain my road rage though because, in my pocket, I have my salvation - even though I nearly had to take out a second mortgage to possess the damned thing!

I get the garage open, connect the bit to the socket handle, find the resistant bolt, connect, add pressure and.... SNAP!!

Having done 20+ years in the RN, I am capable and qualified to use swear-words that would turn a stevedore's hair white... I ran out of vocabulary so I had to invent some!

A call to my BMW dealer elicited the reply that... "yes our guys sometimes struggle to get them off too". So it's not just one instance of this. WHY FFS??

Replacement posi-taps on order (they are hideously expensive - DO NOT LOSE THEM!!) and part run wires stowed until posi-taps are received and I have some more time to do this job

A call to BMW Customer service got little actual help (though reading between the lines, I doubt that is going to surprise many people) other than "take it back to your BMW Motorrad Dealer."
They are 60 miles away. I might just try my nearest BMW Car dealership...

This week has not been so very kind. Screw the cuppa... Where's the RUM!

 

[kurienp]

Yes. Use posi tap and you will be fine. Let me know if you need a pic.

It would be useful. Thank you very much.

Hello Phill,

For the PDM I have positapped into the wire with the green strip under the seat. This is the fuse setup under the front seat (image 1). You can see the grey wire from the PDM 60 attached to the wire with the green strip (image 2).

It is Ok to positap one wire and if that does not work, to positap another one. These wires are not fragile and can easily survive a prick with a Positap.

 

[kurienp]

Oh, and my PDM is attached to the outside of the bike It is attached with a screw, which I took off for some cleaning under.

 

[Phill Elston]

Yep, I had thought about mounting it there too - It may yet end up there - that way I get the whole range of movement on the seat. Just got to wait for replacement posi-taps Thanks for the steer on the wire. I think I tried that one yesterday though but got nowt. Will see

 

[gerarddwatts]

Hello Phill,

For the PDM I have positapped into the wire with the green strip under the seat. This is the fuse setup under the front seat (image 1). You can see the grey wire from the PDM 60 attached to the wire with the green strip (image 2).



It is Ok to positap one wire and if that does not work, to positap another one. These wires are not fragile and can easily survive a prick with a Positap.

So who are you referring to as the prick with a positap

 

[Roadrash Rider]

It was all going so well...

First thing this morning I went out to get this damned thing sorted. Located the wire, got the posi-tap connector, went to put it under the wire... slipped and heard a plastic rattle as it fell into the abyss that is the well under the rear furniture (expletive deleted!!) Of course, its the only posi-tap I have so it needs to be retrieved, which obviously isn't going to be straight forward is it?
I try "fishing with a dob of blutack on a piece of wire. NADA.
The frustration and rage were building.
I tried using "the force" but it appears I'm as much a Jedi as I am an electro-mechanical whizz!

So I had a cuppa and got the T40 key out to remove the rear rack. The two rearmost upper bolts were, I thought "quite tight". Then I went to remove the front left one. The others really weren't tight - compared with this one... Out Torx sockets. SNAP!! Not the bolt thank god, but the socket bit.

So in the car and down to my 'local' (15 miles away - living in the country does suck in SOME ways) auto-factors and bought a new bit - at an eye-watering £12!

Back along the country roads encountering the biggest thundering rockwombles (intentional miss-spelling) that Wiltshire can muster. I can contain my road rage though because, in my pocket, I have my salvation - even though I nearly had to take out a second mortgage to possess the damned thing!

I get the garage open, connect the bit to the socket handle, find the resistant bolt, connect, add pressure and.... SNAP!!

Having done 20+ years in the RN, I am capable and qualified to use swear-words that would turn a stevedore's hair white... I ran out of vocabulary so I had to invent some!

A call to my BMW dealer elicited the reply that... "yes our guys sometimes struggle to get them off too". So it's not just one instance of this. WHY FFS??

Replacement posi-taps on order (they are hideously expensive - DO NOT LOSE THEM!!) and part run wires stowed until posi-taps are received and I have some more time to do this job

A call to BMW Customer service got little actual help (though reading between the lines, I doubt that is going to surprise many people) other than "take it back to your BMW Motorrad Dealer."
They are 60 miles away. I might just try my nearest BMW Car dealership...

This week has not been so very kind. Screw the cuppa... Where's the RUM!

Phil

You know you can lift the silver electricary bit out of the way by pealing back the rubber retaining strip holding it in to the rear of the rides seat and get to the wonderful black hole below it and get ya positap back don't ya?

 

[Phill Elston]

Phil

You know you can lift the silver electricary bit out of the way by pealing back the rubber retaining strip holding it in to the rear of the rides seat and get to the wonderful black hole below it and get ya positap back don't ya?

Well yes, obviously I knew that... retreats with bright red face.
Just finished a 12hr night shift that overran to 14. Might go look before going back for another shift ��