..... or traction control.
Electronics Take Over
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Really?
Yes it does.
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I had the same happen when I first had the bike on the hardknott pass. It was in rain mode but there is an ultra tight very slow speed hairpin requiring you to slip the clutch as it's so slow, the bike bogged down and the same experience happened as per the op.
You can also get the power loss by trying a fast start, dumping the clutch with some decent revs, what happens is what I call it anti wheelie! the bike will lift the front then cut all power.
The only positive thing is that there have been software updates reducing the ferocity of the anti wheelie / traction control sensitivity and it is better now. This year I will turn ASC off as I start the pass!!!
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You can also get the power loss by trying a fast start, dumping the clutch with some decent revs, what happens is what I call it anti wheelie! the bike will lift the front then cut all power.
The only positive thing is that there have been software updates reducing the ferocity of the anti wheelie / traction control sensitivity and it is better now. This year I will turn ASC off as I start the pass!!!
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Perhaps Engineer hasn't found them yet
To be fair to Engineer the early 2013 "Basics" did not have modes as standard - it was only with the later 2013's (2014 model year) that had 2 modes as standard (Rain & Road).
Standard on the later 2013 models whether you want it not!
My March 2013 standard GS does not have modes, dynamic suspension or traction control - I deliberately ordered it that way because I wanted to be in control - if the next generation of the GS does 'enforces' this stuff upon me then I will seriously consider jumping ship to another bike, I have the last 3 generations of 1200s and always gone for the simplest option.
Bye bye then ... lol please don't take offence .... It's the fact that if I have my wife on board , and also for other road users , it seems fair that the extras offer a safe compromise , I have had other bikes without the extras , but to be honest , the extras make so much difference it's worth it .
just a comment to share in good faith : as a rider , you need to know how to control your machine. Whether its up an asphalt incline , or trying to climb a steep incline in loose earth offroading. You need to learn how the modes work , how your traction control interfaces with your modes and what can your tyres put up with.
posting a comment along the lines of "my bikes couldn't climb the hill behind the pub cause the traction control was going nuts" just shows ignorance on the part of the rider , not a fault on the bikes part.
imho.
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posting a comment along the lines of "my bikes couldn't climb the hill behind the pub cause the traction control was going nuts" just shows ignorance on the part of the rider , not a fault on the bikes part.
imho.
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Sounds like you got the best bike then with an early basic one
Have you and Peter kissed and made up?
Only when I miscounted & lost £400
Not playing that game again
Sounds exactly the same as my experience, due for a Service so hopefully the software update will rectify the ferocity.
I too have a March 13 basic model with less of the electronic bolloxology. And what a bike it is, why modes? Give me full power all of the time, bunch of sissy's
Glad someone else still knows how to ride a motorcycle
- all this stuff about extra safety is largely just guff, safety is a state of mind not electronics - rely too much on the vehicle systems to hold your hand and sooner or later you will wish that you hadn't, and then you will be whinging at the manufacturer for not looking after you.
yes it does! it has go mode, stop mode and fall off mode
Well yes my LC has all of those, haven't tested the last one yet.
I want the bike to do as I wish when I open and close the throttle and apply the brakes - electronics are fine if they do what you expect BUT there is always a danger with complex software systems that they will do something totally unexpected and unintended that could lead to a less safe situation - engine bogging down when going around a slow steep 180 mountain hairpin loaded up with luggage and with a pillion is the last place you need a surprise.
WindyChuffer
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Appman - today I found a steep hill and tried a few hill starts. In dynamic mode and traction control on, the only way I could get the electronics to kick in was without using the rear brake. This puts a lot of sudden load onto the tarmac etc...
Using the rear brake it accelerated fine with no hint of wheelies or electronic mothering.
Using the rear brake it accelerated fine with no hint of wheelies or electronic mothering.
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