"Enduro" or "Rally" suits

[falcoron]

spada

Bit hard to look like a Dakar legend in a crappy Spada suit

Herein lies perhaps the answer - why buy a cool bike and then use dull/boring gear?

It just gives you a good excuse to go out and buy something that is waterproof and warm i.e Aerostich here we come

(not to self - gotta stop wasting money on bike stuff )

So if its not BMW its crap?
Jeeez, look at the spec of each one, which one is being complained about?
And a stitch, well looks like the zipper leaks on this one too, but hey its only £600. Oh yeah its not BMW so its crap too!
BTW
you dont look cool with hypothermia.........you look fecking freezing

 

[GS TRV]

So if its not BMW its crap?
Jeeez, look at the spec of each one, which one is being complained about?
And a stitch, well looks like the zipper leaks on this one too, but hey its only £600. Oh yeah its not BMW so its crap too!
BTW
you dont look cool with hypothermia.........you look fecking freezing

I did use the verb - to look

(it was a tongue in cheek comment - you know irony )

forget it and buy what you like

 

[cookie]

Sorry guy's, can't get round why you would want a £700-£900 bit of gear that....

i didn't.

i bought my savanna and my santiago jackets s/h off this site

ps. if i know it's going to be cold and/or wet, i wear my rukka. nothing else comes close IMO. the above are for when it's warm and likely dry.

 

[Trippy]

The one thing I don't understaand about Rallye or Taureg suits is this thing of putting the Gortex in the liner as opposed to the outer jacket. In the summer when you go away are you supposed to take the liner in case the weather changes and when it rains take the jacket off, fit the liner and roast?

I have just bought an HG Cruise Jacket in black and grey which looks very similar to the Rallye, has vents, lots of pockets including a rear map one and the Gortex is in the outer jacket, same with the trousers.

Not sure about how good the trousers would be in very hot weather as whilst they have vents the whole length of the upper leg the only colour is black.

 

[bigchris]

Ah Chris, its a fashion thing, it must be. may as well have bought a borat mankini, wont look as good but probably warmer than that bit of bling.
good ventilation too.

I know I know *hangs head in shame*

To my defense tho, I was in Germany on tour, and even in April was hitting the mid 30's and in my british winter kit was deep-fat frying my testiculars.

The rally kit was on offer, and managed to snap up for just over £600. The only problem was that I didnt have room for my original kit, and so donated it to a forces motorbike club in Frankfurt in case someone needed stuff.

 

[(RIP) willstatt]

Rev'it

My brother's just bought one of the Rev'it Expedition jackets (and trousers) and they're fantastic quality/value. There very much a copy of the Ralley2 really but loads cheaper and just as good. Well worth a look.

Will

 

[(RIP) willstatt]

Cayenne not Expedition

Sorry it's called Cayenne, not expedition

 

[squid]

The one thing I don't understaand about Rallye or Taureg suits is this thing of putting the Gortex in the liner as opposed to the outer jacket. In the summer when you go away are you supposed to take the liner in case the weather changes and when it rains take the jacket off, fit the liner and roast?

Agree completely on this - a waterproof liner is a dumb arse idea.

I have the HG Rallye suit - not big on the colour at all but it felt right on.

However, the liner is a complete waste of space in the jacket. It doesn't add any warmth on a cold day, but does on a hot one and who the heck wants a soaking wet/filthy outer jacket - especially if camping?

The liner in the trousers is just about a good idea as your legs dont catch quite as much in a light shower + I find overtrousers a bit too warm most of the time.

Having two suits is a bit of a pain because then you'll sometimes go out in the 'wrong' one.

My answer - a rallye type suit with an Over suit

 

[DaveGSCymro]

The one thing I don't understaand about Rallye or Taureg suits is this thing of putting the Gortex in the liner as opposed to the outer jacket. In the summer when you go away are you supposed to take the liner in case the weather changes and when it rains take the jacket off, fit the liner and roast?

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Agree completely on this - a waterproof liner is a dumb arse idea.

I have the HG Rallye suit - not big on the colour at all but it felt right on.

However, the liner is a complete waste of space in the jacket. It doesn't add any warmth on a cold day, but does on a hot one and who the heck wants a soaking wet/filthy outer jacket - especially if camping?

The liner in the trousers is just about a good idea as your legs dont catch quite as much in a light shower + I find overtrousers a bit too warm most of the time.

Having two suits is a bit of a pain because then you'll sometimes go out in the 'wrong' one.

My answer - a rallye type suit with an Over suit

Just like I said earlier in the thread.

 

[bmstan]

Bm rally jacket

I have had one for the last 3 years and over 35,000 continental miles + the mileage I do in this country and for me it works fine.Yes if it rains I do stop and put the liner in and I have never been wet through and I find that the temp. usually drops a bit when it rains so I don't have a problem cooking in it and can open the vents anyway. I think that folk should remember that it is sold as a" rally/ Off road jacket " thats when the vents and lightweight come into their own, and when the suit is dirty/sweaty its a lot easier to wash with a removable goretex lining.(read the wash info for a suit with inbuilt linings and the warnings about detergents ruining the goretex) and you will see that its not such a"dumb idea" after all. I also use a heated waistcoat which I use if it gets cold, say in the alps, but I take it with me everywhere anyway as it takes up less room than extra jumpers and is far more effective! There are plenty of other suits in the range for all weather on road use. So view it in the context it was sold for and its a good jacket.When I bought mine there was nothing else like it on the market and the price took some thinking about. In the winter I use a Spada jacket with proper insulation in it. But why do they only sell the pants in such long leg lengths? with knee pads that are half way down my shins.There must be a large market for kit to fit 5'8" lads with short legs. Please think about it Bm and other makers.

 

[AndyT]

In last weeks MCN (Yes alright alright I succumed and bought it), there was an article on clothing and I saw 2 nice looking suits, 1 by Frank Thomas called the Senegal and the other by Akito called Desert Jacket and Trousers. I couldn't find the Frank Thomas one on thier website maybe waiting for it to be released but it looks good.

I have a Rukka jacket and Heine Gerick trousers and find the Rukka quite cold although it is 100% waterproof so far. My Belstaff has been my best bit of gear but demoted now as its about 7 years old.

HAve Fun

AndyT

 

[demito]

Just one waterproof pocket, so whilst you can keep your passport dry, your mobile phone, wallet, hanky and everything else you're carrying gets soaked. Tim

I put my stuff in little plastic bags as I lost the GTX bag during the first week already. Why do you need a GTX bag after all? Does your cell phone need to breath

And the zip-off arms feature is totally wasted on me. Why would I want to wear the outer layer with the armour removed, then take the arms off?
Tim

I always thought the zip off arms were meant to replace a damaged part. Not sure if you can order one arm though, but I don't think it was meant to be used as a body warmer.

And in the heat of Morocco recently I asked myself several times a day why I had bought a suit with black shoulders and arms.

Tim

Indeed not the best color for warmer climates. I have a red one and which I used in Morocco without any problem. I ride with body armour (armadillo type net jacket) only in very high temperatures and tie my jacket to the bike. Works very well!

 

[ROLLINSDAN]

My brother's just bought one of the Rev'it Expedition jackets (and trousers) and they're fantastic quality/value. There very much a copy of the Ralley2 really but loads cheaper and just as good. Well worth a look.

Will

I have Rukka stuff for the winter, fantastic stuff that really is the best in my opinion.

I have a Rev'it Off Track jacket and a pair of Dakar trousers, I've owned two Rallye 2 suits, the Rev'it wins hands down. It has an extra thermal layer that clips in plus the Hydra tex waterproof liner.

I used the rev'it this summer in Spain at temperatures of over 40 degress, the vents in the suit were very good indeed, the main differences are the price (££380) and the weight being about 2/3 of the Rallye 2.


Off Track Jacket:
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Cayenne Jacket:
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Expedition Jacket:
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Dakar Trousers:
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[Mutley]

Just a quick point on why some suits have a goretex liner:

Goretex is a breathable membrane, it has holes in it. Riding on the road and especially off it a suit will get dirty. This will eventually clog the holes in the membrane and it will stop breathing. Many cheap suits get around this by falling apart before they clog

Just a quick note on the Rallye II Pro:

Layers boys layers. You can buy base layers, thermal layers and even windproof layers. That way you can be warm / cool / dry / vented - whatever you want.