Fastest bike a WC or a Ducati 1199 Panigale

mrtee43 said:
What would you fancy it on ?
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..... :D

Or failing that a bike that is lighter, smaller, simpler/easier to fix and far, far cheaper. It's a bit academic though because I don't have a wish to go round the world on a bike currently.
 

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Ive been on track on a hexhead GS few times. Quite good fun. Dont think the WC GSA on anakees will be as good though. A bit too big. Still doable though but I wouldnt call it fun.

Im at Cadwell toorrow for the last track day on my S1000R.

Its really all about the rider, two equal riders, one on a panigale and one on a GS the panigale will murder it no doubt. Just the tyres will make a massive massive difference.
 
For a given bend radius and speed all bikes will lean at the same angle. Moped or Goldwing all the same. Wide tyres can cause a steeper lean angle as the contact patch moves towards the c of g.
Re GS should be able to brake later as forks don't need to settle but Panigale will change direction faster and probably lean further before something expensive happens.

MCN ran a hexhead RT around a track against an RGV 250. They had similar power to weight but obviously the porker RT would be blown into the weeds.

Lap times were virtually identical.
 
mrtee43 said:
What would you fancy it on ?
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First try to ride it coast to coast. An epic story well worth a read and featured in a local magazine.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=808437&highlight=supermodel

Swartkopz, a brilliant short circuit and it delivers some good racing. You can get a lot more brakes by just switching the ABS off but good going to keep up with a 1199, the difference in bikes will be more evident on a wider and longer circuit where the 1199 can really stretch its legs. Looks like there was a bit of rain earlier that evening.
 
Bendy toy said:
For a given bend radius and speed all bikes will lean at the same angle. Moped or Goldwing all the same. Wide tyres can cause a steeper lean angle as the contact patch moves towards the c of g.
Re GS should be able to brake later as forks don't need to settle but Panigale will change direction faster and probably lean further before something expensive happens.

MCN ran a hexhead RT around a track against an RGV 250. They had similar power to weight but obviously the porker RT would be blown into the weeds.

Lap times were virtually identical.
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Interesting that but the panigale is no rgv 250 with 40 hp.
There is no way on earth a gs will be able to brake later than a sports bike. So much against it- weight- feel for grip from the front- tyres. No slipper clutch. I could go on.

Again it's all about the rider. I think 80% rider 20 bike. The gs is a great bike but get equal skilled riders on these very different bikes to panigale will win every time. Road or track. But for a tour of the alps I know which one I want to be on- I won't mention off road!
 
Bendy toy said:
For a given bend radius and speed all bikes will lean at the same angle. Moped or Goldwing all the same. Wide tyres can cause a steeper lean angle as the contact patch moves towards the c of g.
Re GS should be able to brake later as forks don't need to settle but Panigale will change direction faster and probably lean further before something expensive happens.

MCN ran a hexhead RT around a track against an RGV 250. They had similar power to weight but obviously the porker RT would be blown into the weeds.

Lap times were virtually identical.
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Sorry but nearly all of this is nonsense. Actually rereading it every 'fact' you state is incorrect.
 
Bendy toy said:
For a given bend radius and speed all bikes will lean at the same angle. Moped or Goldwing all the same. Wide tyres can cause a steeper lean angle as the contact patch moves towards the c of g.
Re GS should be able to brake later as forks don't need to settle but Panigale will change direction faster and probably lean further before something expensive happens.

MCN ran a hexhead RT around a track against an RGV 250. They had similar power to weight but obviously the porker RT would be blown into the weeds.

Lap times were virtually identical.
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You are forgetting two fundamental aspects.

Weight of bike
coefficient of friction of the tyres

Therefore the above statement is incorrect
 
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