First 100 miles on 1300 v 1250

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I'm impressed by the subtle improvement and aghast at one feature.

1, The fuelling is smoother than the 1250 so there is a smooth throttle response through the rev range. No lag or snatch. Subtle but big improvement IMOP v 1250.
2. The engine seems torquier through the rev range with smooth delivery.
3. It has a rear brake that is powerful.....great innovation.
4. The gearbox must be supplied by Suzuki. No clunk into first ( is this a GS!) smooth change with short action, predictable and smooth.
5. Suspension seems stiffer but that's a guess as running in, but at 90 mph on a duel carriageway in Germany it was smooth.
6. Fitted with a high seat and 31-inch inside leg, I only just flat-foot as the suspension retracts into the low position
7. The aero is a big improvement with the screen in the low position it's clean smooth air and in the high position there is a little buffeting. I'm 6' 1'' with a long back.
8. The bike turns in with little effort, much less than the 1250, thus it is an agile sportier bike for me.

9. The 'aghast' feature is the bar-mounted switches and software. There are no direct switches for heated grips or riding lights. It requires entry into the TFT screen menu and scrolls plus endless moves to activate. Doing it on the move is dangerous, Maybe familiarity helps but it's a complication that can be avoided.

Overall it is an improved bike in many areas, notably, the engine, handling and gearbox. Did I say it's smooth?
 
9. The 'aghast' feature is the bar-mounted switches and software. There are no direct switches for heated grips or riding lights. It requires entry into the TFT screen menu and scrolls plus endless moves to activate. Doing it on the move is dangerous, Maybe familiarity helps but it's a complication that can be avoided.

Just assign them to the hamburger button, either first or second choice, that way you just use the rocker switch

I’ve got the screen and heated seats and grips at the moment

It’s in the manual (y)
 
Just assign them to the hamburger button, either first or second choice, that way you just use the rocker switch

I’ve got the screen and heated seats and grips at the moment

It’s in the manual (y)
Likewise with me, and really they are the only two things I want to adjust on the move, perfect👍
 
Just assign them to the hamburger button, either first or second choice, that way you just use the rocker switch

I’ve got the screen and heated seats and grips at the moment

It’s in the manual (y)
Like that....the Hamburger Button....will do.
 
I'm impressed by the subtle improvement and aghast at one feature.

1, The fuelling is smoother than the 1250 so there is a smooth throttle response through the rev range. No lag or snatch. Subtle but big improvement IMOP v 1250.
2. The engine seems torquier through the rev range with smooth delivery.
3. It has a rear brake that is powerful.....great innovation.
4. The gearbox must be supplied by Suzuki. No clunk into first ( is this a GS!) smooth change with short action, predictable and smooth.
5. Suspension seems stiffer but that's a guess as running in, but at 90 mph on a duel carriageway in Germany it was smooth.
6. Fitted with a high seat and 31-inch inside leg, I only just flat-foot as the suspension retracts into the low position
7. The aero is a big improvement with the screen in the low position it's clean smooth air and in the high position there is a little buffeting. I'm 6' 1'' with a long back.
8. The bike turns in with little effort, much less than the 1250, thus it is an agile sportier bike for me.

9. The 'aghast' feature is the bar-mounted switches and software. There are no direct switches for heated grips or riding lights. It requires entry into the TFT screen menu and scrolls plus endless moves to activate. Doing it on the move is dangerous, Maybe familiarity helps but it's a complication that can be avoided.

Overall it is an improved bike in many areas, notably, the engine, handling and gearbox. Did I say it's smooth?
Rear brakes aren't powerful, by design. As I understand it though the 1300 has a single braking system with 2 levers i.e. the footbrake also engages the front brakes.
 
Im amazed just how nice the eco mode is will try the other modes next week after 1st service 485 miles on it delivered 26th service is Booked for Thursday Ferry to Spain on the 8th yippee.
compared to my old 1250 its as they have said a completely new bike and I am amazed how its improved . Give Eco a try :-)
 
I love my 1300, but the switchgear is a mess. Menus, hamburger buttons and no backlighting. It's like the worst modern tech without including simple backlighting.

The one that drives me nuts is that I have to have the heated grips and seat mapped to a long press of the hamburger (even typing that makes the whole thing sound ridiculous). Once the options appear on the TFT, they only stay there for a few moments and then time out - at night, I can never get the right buttons in time. The normal routine is:
- hazards on
- hazards off
- hazards on
- hazards off
[swearing]
- find the hamburger; long press
- scroll down the TFT rather than adjusting heat
- hazards again
[more swearing]
- long press of hamburger
- fumble the up/down arrows to arrive at completely the wrong setting
- hazards...

This can go on for miles.
 
Err, what’s this hamburger you speak of? I have a R1250 GSA of 2022 vintage and it has nothing like a hamburger.
 
I love my 1300, but the switchgear is a mess. Menus, hamburger buttons and no backlighting. It's like the worst modern tech without including simple backlighting.

The one that drives me nuts is that I have to have the heated grips and seat mapped to a long press of the hamburger (even typing that makes the whole thing sound ridiculous). Once the options appear on the TFT, they only stay there for a few moments and then time out - at night, I can never get the right buttons in time. The normal routine is:
- hazards on
- hazards off
- hazards on
- hazards off
[swearing]
- find the hamburger; long press
- scroll down the TFT rather than adjusting heat
- hazards again
[more swearing]
- long press of hamburger
- fumble the up/down arrows to arrive at completely the wrong setting
- hazards...

This can go on for miles.
Mine is just one quick press of the burger button then wizz wheel to get what you want then up and down arrows for change . Easy
 
I love my 1300, but the switchgear is a mess. Menus, hamburger buttons and no backlighting. It's like the worst modern tech without including simple backlighting.

The one that drives me nuts is that I have to have the heated grips and seat mapped to a long press of the hamburger (even typing that makes the whole thing sound ridiculous). Once the options appear on the TFT, they only stay there for a few moments and then time out - at night, I can never get the right buttons in time. The normal routine is:
- hazards on
- hazards off
- hazards on
- hazards off
[swearing]
- find the hamburger; long press
- scroll down the TFT rather than adjusting heat
- hazards again
[more swearing]
- long press of hamburger
- fumble the up/down arrows to arrive at completely the wrong setting
- hazards...

This can go on for miles.
You’re not allowed to moan about the lack of backlighting in here . Real bikers don’t need it . Jetcock said so ! 🤡
I reckon BMW will update the decade old TFT before they ever fit such modernities as backlighting that other manufacturers have been doing again for over a decade
 
You’re not allowed to moan about the lack of backlighting in here . Real bikers don’t need it . Jetcock said so ! 🤡
I reckon BMW will update the decade old TFT before they ever fit such modernities as backlighting that other manufacturers have been doing again for over a decade
Agreed
With the plethora of buttons and features on 1250/1300’s now, backlighting is essential

Back on 1150’s when there were just a few buttons on the switchgear and no TFT it’s not necessary
 
I've set mine up so the rocker switch moves the screen up/down. A long press on the hamburger button puts the rocker switch temporarily into heated grip mode.
 


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