First Issue

[Doc]

Had a issue with the bike whilst away. Came to start it and set off and it started back firing and stalling. Was going downhill and managed to keep it going. Engine management light came on but bike had started to run ok.
Ran it for a bit stopped bike and started back up again and all ok.
Ran ok all the rest of the holiday with no issues and didn't mention it just in case I cursed the rest of the trip.
Bike is booked in for its five thousand service beginning of October so hopefully they can sort it out.

 

[Arsey]

Had a issue with the bike whilst away. Came to start it and set off and it started back firing and stalling. Was going downhill and managed to keep it going. Engine management light came on but bike had started to run ok.
Ran it for a bit stopped bike and started back up again and all ok.
Ran ok all the rest of the holiday with no issues and didn't mention it just in case I cursed the rest of the trip.
Bike is booked in for its five thousand service beginning of October so hopefully they can sort it out.

Was it full of fuel ? Sounds like fuel venting into the canister .

 

[Northern jock]

Does sound like a fuelling issue.

 

[Doc]

Was it full of fuel ? Sounds like fuel venting into the canister .

Yes probably to the brim

 

[Arsey]

Yes probably to the brim

That’ll be it then , especially if parked in the sun ! Fuel expanded and vented into emissions canister .
Just open fuel cap to equalise pressure and don’t fill to brim then leave it parked up .

 

[Doc]

That’ll be it then , especially if parked in the sun ! Fuel expanded and vented into emissions canister .
Just open fuel cap to equalise pressure and don’t fill to brim then leave it parked up .

Interesting thanks,
Should I inform garage ? Or let them find the problem.
That's if it is that.

 

[Wapping]

Be sure to start any conversation you have with servicing dealer with: “My mate says….” Or, if you suspect that he thinks you have no mates, start with: “I read on the internet that….”



PS Given that your day starts at around 04:30, the awesome steed was probably asleep.

PPS If indeed the tank was over full (it most commonly happens in the hot sun, due to fuel expansion in the tank) do take a bit of care when lifting the fuel cap, as the volatile fluid can spray out. Atomised petrol, mixed with air is not a great mixture and might well soil your cut-off jacket thing.

 

[Arsey]

Interesting thanks,
Should I inform garage ? Or let them find the problem.
That's if it is that.

I think the problem is the owner spent too much time drinking beer and the bike just needed to vent ……it’ll be fine now .

 

[fatbaldbob]

You have a bar in the fuel cap to stop the nozzle going all the way in, when the pump cuts out at bar level don’t go lifting the nozzle and topping it up to the brim, it’s there for a reason.
Also read the manual / goggle search , can’t remember off the top of my head but in there it will tell you how to access historical fault codes on RC. You can then cross reference the code for a description of what the issue was. The dealer should look up any historical codes recorded with “Digital Wrench” during the service and address them if required.

 

[Doc]

You have a bar in the fuel cap to stop the nozzle going all the way in, when the pump cuts out at bar level don’t go lifting the nozzle and topping it up to the brim, it’s there for a reason.
Also read the manual / goggle search , can’t remember off the top of my head but in there it will tell you how to access historical fault codes on RC. You can then cross reference the code for a description of what the issue was. The dealer should look up any historical codes recorded with “Digital Wrench” during the service and address them if required.

Ok thanks,
I had definitely filled to the brim.
No codes coming up.

 

[Udders]

If it were me I’d certainly mention it. Could be an easily fixable “ common “ problem you’re unaware of. Get them to double check all connections just in case there’s a loose one somewhere.

 

[Doc]

Bike picked up yesterday for service and the problem sorting.
Not a good start as bloke nearly dropping Bike putting it in the van. If I wasn't at the side helping it would have gone over.
I would have rode it up the ramp as it was wide enough but he insisted on starting it and walking it up whilst in gear.
Didn't help he was like a Umpa Lumpa.

 

[Santa-2512]

Might not be the same, but if your emissions canister is full of activated carbon, and youve vented fuel into it, it will be fucked.

The fuel breaks down the carbon, and you end up with a thick sludge in the bottom which is useless,

Fuel vapour, is ok, raw fuel not ok

 

[steve hughes]

Bike picked up yesterday for service and the problem sorting.
Not a good start as bloke nearly dropping Bike putting it in the van. If I wasn't at the side helping it would have gone over.
I would have rode it up the ramp as it was wide enough but he insisted on starting it and walking it up whilst in gear.
Didn't help he was like a Umpa Lumpa.

Id be rocking up at the dealership when its ready to avoid another van loading / unloading. The Vespa US forums are full of issues with running when overfilled. It sounds similar to your symptoms, albeit on a tiny 300 cc engine. In the US they have this evaporative catchment systems on for emissions. The European bikes dont have it fitted.

 

[fatbaldbob]

As there is now no Indian dealer in Scotland, I did the 10k service on my bike myself yesterday. I bought a genuine Indian service kit and did everything required by the maintenance schedule by the book. Bike is only 11 months old, will be interesting see what would happen now if I have a warranty issue. Luckily the Indian RC system allows you access to the service settings and you can do the service reset yourself.

 

[Doc]

Ecu data is being checked over by Indian to see if it throws up any problems. Should no in 24hrd.
I have said a few people say it could be the emissions cannister so they will check that.
Although I would think it would play up all the time if it was that.

 

[Doc]

Well nothing found on ecu info.
Si garage says if it happens again they will check it out. Although it only happened once so let's see.

 

[Doc]

Got bike back yesterday and all good.
£340 quid and £100 of that was collection and delivery so don't think that was bad.
Think the next service is 10 thousand if I keep it that long.