ExpatinIstanbul
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I'll take a 10% share and two weeks use in July, two in August and one in October.
First Review - Touratech Companero Adventure Suit
- Thread starter simon thomas
- Start date
I'll take a 10% share and two weeks use in July, two in August and one in October.
best to pick the dry months nothing worse than wearing a pre cheesed trousers....
can't wait for second review when it starts raining and the over suits are worn
It will probably be just before the next TT catalogue is released
It's product placement. 
all I wish is that the did a short film on how to servive untill now this 8 years, without the aid of sole selling if you wish to call it that.
Iºm slowly learning as in Spain at the moment not everything is so expensive, thats for sure, and Im sure they havent spent $10k on suits over the last 8 years, but how do you manage.
So free suits fine but PETROL FOOD TYRES,
Forget the suit videos, lets hear how you carry on for cash, far more interesting, as for the suit very nice $600 tops for me or maybe 6 months working in a Chinnese bakery
not sure best thing to advitize on here as heroic status could be lost
Iºm slowly learning as in Spain at the moment not everything is so expensive, thats for sure, and Im sure they havent spent $10k on suits over the last 8 years, but how do you manage.
So free suits fine but PETROL FOOD TYRES,
Forget the suit videos, lets hear how you carry on for cash, far more interesting, as for the suit very nice $600 tops for me or maybe 6 months working in a Chinnese bakery
not sure best thing to advitize on here as heroic status could be lost
Shep
Shep of the Dessert
Pauly S
Registered user
sorry and all that
The textile gericke suit i have does exactly what that does, doesnt need an oversuit when it rains, the armour is in the right place, blah blah, cost around £500 ,I'm happy with that, suits me(pun),oh and doesnt leak.
I can see what they are a doing, ....a job.
If i were them, i would do the same, its funding their trip, well done for milking the tt bandwagon, theyve done more milking of tt than i'll ever acheive.
The suit, yes its nice,2k???? not for me matey.
Maybe if they reduced their price by 75% i'd buy one.
as per usual,touratosh prices.
If you dont agree with their pricing strategy, dont buy it,vote with your sidi couriers.
Ive got very little touratosh on my bike,what there is,is secondhand.
Unfortuneately this is the beast we have created, dont feed it.
Maybe they will get the message and put their prices in line with germany.
The textile gericke suit i have does exactly what that does, doesnt need an oversuit when it rains, the armour is in the right place, blah blah, cost around £500 ,I'm happy with that, suits me(pun),oh and doesnt leak.
I can see what they are a doing, ....a job.
If i were them, i would do the same, its funding their trip, well done for milking the tt bandwagon, theyve done more milking of tt than i'll ever acheive.
The suit, yes its nice,2k???? not for me matey.
Maybe if they reduced their price by 75% i'd buy one.
as per usual,touratosh prices.
If you dont agree with their pricing strategy, dont buy it,vote with your sidi couriers.
Ive got very little touratosh on my bike,what there is,is secondhand.
Unfortuneately this is the beast we have created, dont feed it.
Maybe they will get the message and put their prices in line with germany.
Not sure if the ride reports section is correct for this thread. In the Gear section seems better.
I'd get one but would need to know what sort of oil it used first!
I'd get one but would need to know what sort of oil it used first!
ExpatinIstanbul
Registered user
I'd get one but would need to know what sort of oil it used first!
It uses the most virgin of virgin olive oils, grown only on one Greek island by one family, from olives from a single tree.
It costs 23,000 Euros for 5ml from TT.
500ml are required to treat the jacket and trousers.
Lamble
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Touratech Turkey Address TURA MOTOR Ithalat ve Ticaret Feneryolu Mah. Atilay Sok. 11/1 Kadiköy / Istanbul
How much are they there? Perhaps you can bring bulk orders back to the UK if they are cheaper?
How much are they there? Perhaps you can bring bulk orders back to the UK if they are cheaper?
ExpatinIstanbul
Registered user
Their website doesn't work, but I can pretty much guarantee they'd be more expensive here then anywhere. Only Hein-Gericke in Turkey keep their prices similar to European levels, everyone else charges much more.
everywherevirtually
Registered user
Not sure if the ride reports section is correct for this thread. In the Gear section seems better.
I'd get one but would need to know what sort of oil it used first!
I don't want one... it's not hi-vis enough for me
That made my morning
Not sure if the ride reports section is correct for this thread. In the Gear section seems better.
I'd get one but would need to know what sort of oil it used first!
Or even the vendors section
Pauly S
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so where has that long post from simon gone?
i got an email about it, but its not here.
Any luck with the tea pot lid vern?
Anyone know where his donation page is? i'll chip in.
so where has that long post from simon gone?
i got an email about it, but its not here.
Any luck with the tea pot lid vern?
Anyone know where his donation page is? i'll chip in.
...negativity rules!
...WOW, what a way to start a day!
With a spell of good internet I've logged on to UKGSER and found a barrage of ill informed, negatively biased, hurtful posts on a thread we kicked off for fun. Yep fun, nothing more nothing less.
A small part of me just wanted to ignore the stone throwing as just that, but with many of the post attacking us at a very personal level I need to respond.
Some of you know us, but for those of you that don't and still need to assume the worst of us...great...knock yourselves out!
Lets start though with some FACTS, that will hopefully quash some of the misconceptions that have infected this thread.
Whatton, consider your words carefully. After experiencing first-hand how the majority of World (outside of cozy Europe and the US) survives, we are more in touch with 'reality' than most. You're comment suggests that you believe we are somehow responsible for the pricing of the suit or are even endorsing the retail price that Touratech have chosen. Both of these assumptions are incorrect. Our 'REALITY' was/is simple, our old gear was shagged, someone gave us new gear, end of story.
...yep it's a hell of a lot of money and you’re probably right about the type of clients who'll buy it. But to buy it or not is up to each individual and Touratech will either live with it or reduce the cost.
Morning MR Bakerman...Yeah I'm pretty sure I can remember everything about when we left
re; money for long term travelling: simple...it's f#*^ing tough! We took everything we'd ever owned, had worked for and saved for and over eight years we have sold it all! Remember Lisa's 50 and I'm no kid We earn a little by writing articles for RoadRUNNER, a motorcycle touring magazine in the USA, we've sold photos anyone that will buy them, from large companies to people in car parks. We've sold to NIK software (producers of NIKON camera software); magazines around the world; motorcycle parts suppliers in the US who need stock background images for catalogues; to art galleries just because they liked our photos.
We've never gone cup-in-hand to the forums. Why should someone else be expected to pay for something we're choosing to do. We have worked hard to put together things like the calendars and prints which we make available for purchase. After that its 'free-market-choice', people will either choose to buy a 2RTW calendar, print, t-shirt, based on their personal value system or they won't! At the moment I'm earning some cash doing the design work for 'Nick Sanders' new products, the books, the DVD jackets etc and even the adverts for the bike shows and the magazine adverts that he makes, all me and Lisa and a suspect internet connection. Guys, this work is produced often after a 10-hour riding day, with the tiny laptop plugged into the bike for power whilst we hunch over the laptop inside a dark tent with a led headlight for illumination. No we don't want your sympathy but a modicum of understanding and even a little respect would go along way before you chastise us assuming that this is somehow easier for us than it would be for yourselves.
Here is some of our work:
Before someone pipes up with "but you've got a donate section on your website", yeah we do, because we were asked repeatedly in the USA to make one available and very occasionally it gets used, for which we always both incredibly grateful and surprised. But we don't flaunt it or promote it!
We get asked a lot about how we afford fuel and new tyres. The simple answer is we have almost forgotten what new tyres are. Without cash to import new tyres into Pakistan, we posted on horizons and here, asking if anyone knew where to pick up tyres in Islamabad. A couple of guys came back to us saying they'd pulled off their badly worn-out tyres and had dumped them on a rubbish heap. Luckily for us they had GPS marked where they'd staid, close by to where they dumped the worn tyres. We found their spot and then the rotten pile of old gear and trash that was covering two twisted and punctured tyres. We picked them up, repaired them as best we could and installed them onto our rims and then rode the rest of Pakistan, the whole of the Indian sub continent and into Nepal on the same tyres, with a total of one 60-mph blow-out and another 9 puncture and subsequent repairs. Yeah, we're doing this because we don't want to spend all that sponsorship cash that comes flooding in every month...get real!?!?!?!?!?!
At the end of the day, whether you're traveling or not we all need funds to buy the essentials, you can either work for someone else or yourself, we are effectively working for ourselves whilst on the move. We live as cheaply as possible and think carefully about any cash that is spent on anything other than food, water or fuel. It's our personal value system and one, which for now we're happy to deal with, but things change and we all compensate accordingly. This is why it's hurtful and a frustrating when someone that doesn't knows us or our circumstance, tells the World on a forum that we're rolling in sponsored cash and whoring ourselves out to anyone that meets our price!
Keith..., "doing this for a living",...I think I just need to be clear...we don't! What a great job that would be, but unfortunately we don't make a living from our journey. Basically we're just travellers, we've just managed to travel longer than most. Unlike other celebrity travellers, no-one pays us to travel. Compared to our very meager incomings we hemorrhage money most months, hence our lifestyle as described above. If someone can tell us how to make a living from our experience I'm all ears
...I've think I've covered this already but just to make sure...'NO' No money, no instructions, no orders, no suggestions. We just thought it would be fun to make the video and share something that wasn't in production yet.
No we didn't!!! I'll explain...A) we didn't even know the price. B) We're not the designers. C) we're not Touratech.
in case you’re wondering...even with these suits, we're still nobodies. Just riders who like to share.....oh what's the point?
Hey Trippy in quick response to your post 44#
I imagine you are surprised, especially as you don't know us personally.
As I think I’ve covered above re 'paid well to promote the suit'...NO! but, I understand a little why that presumption is out there, but it's still frustrating to see people make absolute statements based on assumption. Why did no one just drop us an email before slating us on this forum. What was it...just too much effort?
Trippy...we didn’t say it was revolutionary. It just works better for us than the suits we've used for the last so many years that have had a Gore-tex liner. Have fun at 17,000 feet in -32 temps in your jeans and leather jacket. Look. It's all horses for courses, this wasn't aimed at being an advert, just us having a bit of fun and saying what we personally like about the suit. End of!
Lo-IQ...I'm sure 'someone' is doing alright, but it's not us, but hey, thanks for thinking the worst of us...appreciate it!
...it's sad that only in the western World do we actually believe that 'something for nothing' is never really for nothing. Personally and professionally most Europeans decision making processes, are based on an agenda. It's how we survive. No matter what you have there's always someone who 'hasn't' and who believes that they are somehow more deserving of what you have. And sadly will do whatever it takes to take 'it' from you. In reality being given the suit for us was of course a fantastic help, and had we known the backlash we were going to be subject to on this thread, then of course we wouldn't have posted the video here. Hindsight eh?
Lo-IQ...like I said, they didn't. Touratech neither asked us or knew we were making the video. We'd hoped that as 'real travellers' our experience shared would mean more than Barry's or the Hoffs, but we had no idea you held them in such high regard
. Like I said, we were going to make a ‘warts and all vid' of how the suit stands up in the real world but there seems little point.
...Excuse me! If you'd spent any time looking at our website or journey you'd know how totally out-of-order your comments are. Tell you what. Give me 5 minutes and I'll think up a few ways to berate, mock and slander your character, merely because I can. It'll help that I've never met you, don’t know you or your moral compass, although you comment is an indication of where that may lie. I'll PM you a ton of names and addresses of other people you've never met and you can berate them too.
...seriously?!?!?!?!. Yeah...for that matter how about riding a BMW motorcycle through Cambodia or being able to eat at a higher standard than most Cambodians. Perhaps the Cambodia tourism industry should set some regulations stating that all tourists have to wear rags and ride a beaten up bicycle to travel through the country. Seriously Steptoe, are you now so desperate to throw rocks at us that you use this kind or argument to villainise us? Like Lamble said, Cambodia was just the next destination after Thailand.
Freeloading how exactly? Someone offered to replace kit of ours that was shagged. Would you have said no? Did we offend you in some previous life or are you just berating us because you feel able to as we're on the other side of the planet?
...suggesting and implying that we are not honest and that we are somehow cruising around the World at someone else's expense. That's just downright offensive and rude. Good luck with your ‘life outlook’.
...what sort of review? We said we just got them, we said we like them, and we said we put up proper review after we ridden in them properly...what more do you want? What are you thinking??? We in Cambodia inside the Angkor Wat Temple thinking about making a fun video first impression review specifically to share with you in the hopes of making you feel like a tw#t.
Which was the whole reason that we thought doing a series of reviews would be helpful: but obviously not. We are impartial, we now know you don’t believe that regardless of what we say hence the other planned reviews now being mute. In the end there is no blame here. A company has produced a product and hope to sell it for a given price. As consumers you make your own choices to buy or not. We thought we'd give a honest (yes honest) series of reviews as we ride the suit in a number of tough environments. In our naivety we thought you'd enjoy it, how wrong could we have been. As far as being shafted is concerned, if that’s your ‘thing’…go for it. But surely just not buying it is the biggest message you can send if you are so insulted by the price.
Pnewman it's unbiased in as much as we have no agreement with anyone to either promote or only positively endorse their gear. If we were the type of individuals to agree to that kind of situation we’d be up to our armpits in kit....and we're not. Again, you don't know us so I hope you'll take our word for it. No one's more surprised than us that Touratech didn't ask for 'something' in return for their support but they haven't!
No it won’t be. Like I said…. Touratech didn't even know we were making the video. Don't you guys get exhausted going through life so cynically?
Vern for ‘fecks’ sake mate, we're not selling it and we're not Touratech It here because it's part of our ride.
OK, enough of all this. I think what I find a terrible shame is that after so many years of putting up photos and info and ride reports on this forum, why this one post has attracted more views and so many more responses than all the others?
Look at the end of the day I’ve had my say…and that’s what the forum is here for, but do me a favour….I know things are tough financially in the UK for everyone, but please don’t use Lisa or I as your personal web ‘punch-bags’. We wouldn’t do it to you and I know we haven’t deserved it. And I’m also hopeful that this ridiculously long post of mine has corrected a few of the misconceptions that were being bandied around as ‘truths’.
Ride safe, ride far and enjoy each mile.
(in your gore-tex lined suit, over suit, birthday suit, jeans and jacket or whatever else you choose to ride in)
Simon T
...WOW, what a way to start a day!
With a spell of good internet I've logged on to UKGSER and found a barrage of ill informed, negatively biased, hurtful posts on a thread we kicked off for fun. Yep fun, nothing more nothing less.
A small part of me just wanted to ignore the stone throwing as just that, but with many of the post attacking us at a very personal level I need to respond.
Some of you know us, but for those of you that don't and still need to assume the worst of us...great...knock yourselves out!
Lets start though with some FACTS, that will hopefully quash some of the misconceptions that have infected this thread.
1. Lisa and I made a personal decision to leave the UK for what we thoughts was going to be an 18-month motorcycle journey. We've managed to stay on the road by accepting a standard of living that most would deem impossible. But this has been a personal decision, what we have conceded by way of 'westernized standards of living' we have more than made up for in raw living experience. To travel is a privilege and for us, one worth giving up some of the day-to-today conveniences (dishwasher, medical health on-tap, TV, supermarkets) and long term security. Some of you will understand that and some of you won’t. Home for 8-years has been a tent; we buy simple foods at local markets and cook on a single fuel burning stove. Generally we don't indulge in the tourist activities that most of you would if you visited these countries on a holiday.
2. Lisa and I do not have any financial sponsors. Moreover, we do not have any kind of agreement (either written or spoken) with any of the firms who have chosen to support us with equipment. Nothing! Our journey is ours, we've sold no part of it!
3. We have made 'NO' assurances to promote or endorse anyone's kit. On a day to day basis we 'get by' but there's no way we can use equipment of any kind, unless it does a good job, we don't have the luxury of carrying gear just because it was given to us, let alone spending our time promoting it. When we make videos it's because we want to be able to share with friends, all be it in a small way, a glimpse of what Lisa and I are lucky enough to share with each other most days. When we put together the video on this thread it was because we'd thought it would be cool to show you guys and have some fun doing the 'amateur night' review thing! We naively thought you'd share our excitement.
4. When we given the suits we had no idea what the retail cost was. It didn't matter. We don't work for Touratech, all that mattered is that they replaced suits that we had been wearing for over 2-years, through some very tough terrain and that had come to the end of their lives. The Body Armour was damaged, the zips had been repaired or replaced several times the material had been torn and patched as much as feasibly possible, but this is the case with every suit we've worn. We are in these suits 8-16 hours a day, day in day out from asphalt to desert. The same will happen to the Companero suits, it's the nature of the beast or at least our lifestyle. As far as we are concerned, no-one owes us anything and if any firm (BMW, Revit, Belstaff, Rukka etc) had offered to help us out by replacing our old suits, we'd have been just as relieved and excited, who wouldn't be? Luckily for us Touratech made the offer, I'm sure they have a marketing agenda, but it's Europe everyone has an agenda. But we have made no assurances to be part of it.
Whatton, consider your words carefully. After experiencing first-hand how the majority of World (outside of cozy Europe and the US) survives, we are more in touch with 'reality' than most. You're comment suggests that you believe we are somehow responsible for the pricing of the suit or are even endorsing the retail price that Touratech have chosen. Both of these assumptions are incorrect. Our 'REALITY' was/is simple, our old gear was shagged, someone gave us new gear, end of story.
that is pretty obscene really , for the rich or sponsored only
...yep it's a hell of a lot of money and you’re probably right about the type of clients who'll buy it. But to buy it or not is up to each individual and Touratech will either live with it or reduce the cost.
Morning MR Bakerman...Yeah I'm pretty sure I can remember everything about when we left
re; money for long term travelling: simple...it's f#*^ing tough! We took everything we'd ever owned, had worked for and saved for and over eight years we have sold it all! Remember Lisa's 50 and I'm no kid
We earn a little by writing articles for RoadRUNNER, a motorcycle touring magazine in the USA, we've sold photos anyone that will buy them, from large companies to people in car parks. We've sold to NIK software (producers of NIKON camera software); magazines around the world; motorcycle parts suppliers in the US who need stock background images for catalogues; to art galleries just because they liked our photos. We've never gone cup-in-hand to the forums. Why should someone else be expected to pay for something we're choosing to do. We have worked hard to put together things like the calendars and prints which we make available for purchase. After that its 'free-market-choice', people will either choose to buy a 2RTW calendar, print, t-shirt, based on their personal value system or they won't! At the moment I'm earning some cash doing the design work for 'Nick Sanders' new products, the books, the DVD jackets etc and even the adverts for the bike shows and the magazine adverts that he makes, all me and Lisa and a suspect internet connection. Guys, this work is produced often after a 10-hour riding day, with the tiny laptop plugged into the bike for power whilst we hunch over the laptop inside a dark tent with a led headlight for illumination. No we don't want your sympathy but a modicum of understanding and even a little respect would go along way before you chastise us assuming that this is somehow easier for us than it would be for yourselves.
Here is some of our work:
Before someone pipes up with "but you've got a donate section on your website", yeah we do, because we were asked repeatedly in the USA to make one available and very occasionally it gets used, for which we always both incredibly grateful and surprised. But we don't flaunt it or promote it!
We get asked a lot about how we afford fuel and new tyres. The simple answer is we have almost forgotten what new tyres are. Without cash to import new tyres into Pakistan, we posted on horizons and here, asking if anyone knew where to pick up tyres in Islamabad. A couple of guys came back to us saying they'd pulled off their badly worn-out tyres and had dumped them on a rubbish heap. Luckily for us they had GPS marked where they'd staid, close by to where they dumped the worn tyres. We found their spot and then the rotten pile of old gear and trash that was covering two twisted and punctured tyres. We picked them up, repaired them as best we could and installed them onto our rims and then rode the rest of Pakistan, the whole of the Indian sub continent and into Nepal on the same tyres, with a total of one 60-mph blow-out and another 9 puncture and subsequent repairs. Yeah, we're doing this because we don't want to spend all that sponsorship cash that comes flooding in every month...get real!?!?!?!?!?!
At the end of the day, whether you're traveling or not we all need funds to buy the essentials, you can either work for someone else or yourself, we are effectively working for ourselves whilst on the move. We live as cheaply as possible and think carefully about any cash that is spent on anything other than food, water or fuel. It's our personal value system and one, which for now we're happy to deal with, but things change and we all compensate accordingly. This is why it's hurtful and a frustrating when someone that doesn't knows us or our circumstance, tells the World on a forum that we're rolling in sponsored cash and whoring ourselves out to anyone that meets our price!
Good video, and beautiful location.
Very lucky/wealthy if that's what you do for a living...
£2k for a suit tho...you'd want it to be an all in one specialist suit with NASA style materials, rather than having to stop & add bits to it.
Keith..., "doing this for a living",...I think I just need to be clear...we don't! What a great job that would be, but unfortunately we don't make a living from our journey. Basically we're just travellers, we've just managed to travel longer than most. Unlike other celebrity travellers, no-one pays us to travel. Compared to our very meager incomings we hemorrhage money most months, hence our lifestyle as described above. If someone can tell us how to make a living from our experience I'm all ears
...no nothing at all to do with it. I'm not sure it's a glowing review. Fundamentally all we've said 'so far' is that we'd had the suits for a week plus and that it's kept us cooler in incredibly hot conditions and that the fit of the suit is the best we've had to date. Our plan was to make another video when we've actually had the chance to live in the suit and given it some abuse. Sadly, it seems as though there will be little point in posting the result here.
...I've think I've covered this already but just to make sure...'NO' No money, no instructions, no orders, no suggestions. We just thought it would be fun to make the video and share something that wasn't in production yet.
£2K...... - you started the piss taking
No we didn't!!! I'll explain...A) we didn't even know the price. B) We're not the designers. C) we're not Touratech.
Lo-IQ...yeah, we've done all that, still do when needs must, as far as being hard as nails...can't say...all we've done is ridden out through the Amazon jungle for 3 weeks with a broken neck and full onset Malaria?
in case you’re wondering...even with these suits, we're still nobodies. Just riders who like to share.....oh what's the point?
Hey Trippy in quick response to your post 44#
I imagine you are surprised, especially as you don't know us personally.
As I think I’ve covered above re 'paid well to promote the suit'...NO! but, I understand a little why that presumption is out there, but it's still frustrating to see people make absolute statements based on assumption. Why did no one just drop us an email before slating us on this forum. What was it...just too much effort?
Trippy...we didn’t say it was revolutionary. It just works better for us than the suits we've used for the last so many years that have had a Gore-tex liner. Have fun at 17,000 feet in -32 temps in your jeans and leather jacket. Look. It's all horses for courses, this wasn't aimed at being an advert, just us having a bit of fun and saying what we personally like about the suit. End of!
Lo-IQ...I'm sure 'someone' is doing alright, but it's not us, but hey, thanks for thinking the worst of us...appreciate it!
...it's sad that only in the western World do we actually believe that 'something for nothing' is never really for nothing. Personally and professionally most Europeans decision making processes, are based on an agenda. It's how we survive. No matter what you have there's always someone who 'hasn't' and who believes that they are somehow more deserving of what you have. And sadly will do whatever it takes to take 'it' from you. In reality being given the suit for us was of course a fantastic help, and had we known the backlash we were going to be subject to on this thread, then of course we wouldn't have posted the video here. Hindsight eh?
Lo-IQ...like I said, they didn't. Touratech neither asked us or knew we were making the video. We'd hoped that as 'real travellers' our experience shared would mean more than Barry's or the Hoffs, but we had no idea you held them in such high regard
. Like I said, we were going to make a ‘warts and all vid' of how the suit stands up in the real world but there seems little point.Having got through as many suits as they have in the last 8 years I reckon there's every chance their going to absolutely love them for the next 12 months or so and tell everyone how totally marvelous they are.
Unless of course someone else makes a £3k suit in the meantime
...Excuse me! If you'd spent any time looking at our website or journey you'd know how totally out-of-order your comments are. Tell you what. Give me 5 minutes and I'll think up a few ways to berate, mock and slander your character, merely because I can. It'll help that I've never met you, don’t know you or your moral compass, although you comment is an indication of where that may lie. I'll PM you a ton of names and addresses of other people you've never met and you can berate them too.
Ethics !. Intellectualising a suit suit reveiw !.
I wonder how ethics fit into a review in cambodia on an article of clothing costing £2k where the average daily wage is less than 50pence.
...seriously?!?!?!?!. Yeah...for that matter how about riding a BMW motorcycle through Cambodia or being able to eat at a higher standard than most Cambodians. Perhaps the Cambodia tourism industry should set some regulations stating that all tourists have to wear rags and ride a beaten up bicycle to travel through the country. Seriously Steptoe, are you now so desperate to throw rocks at us that you use this kind or argument to villainise us? Like Lamble said, Cambodia was just the next destination after Thailand.
You mentioned the "ethics" word.
I just assumed they were freeloading.
Do TT have a shop in the far east ???.
Freeloading how exactly? Someone offered to replace kit of ours that was shagged. Would you have said no? Did we offend you in some previous life or are you just berating us because you feel able to as we're on the other side of the planet?
I'm far too honest and transparent to be able to blag the cost for that length of time.
...suggesting and implying that we are not honest and that we are somehow cruising around the World at someone else's expense. That's just downright offensive and rude. Good luck with your ‘life outlook’.
No point in beating around the bush.
What i'm against is the sort of review that takes me for some kind of a ****, even if i am
...what sort of review?
We said we just got them, we said we like them, and we said we put up proper review after we ridden in them properly...what more do you want? What are you thinking??? We in Cambodia inside the Angkor Wat Temple thinking about making a fun video first impression review specifically to share with you in the hopes of making you feel like a tw#t. Which was the whole reason that we thought doing a series of reviews would be helpful: but obviously not. We are impartial, we now know you don’t believe that regardless of what we say hence the other planned reviews now being mute. In the end there is no blame here. A company has produced a product and hope to sell it for a given price. As consumers you make your own choices to buy or not. We thought we'd give a honest (yes honest) series of reviews as we ride the suit in a number of tough environments. In our naivety we thought you'd enjoy it, how wrong could we have been. As far as being shafted is concerned, if that’s your ‘thing’…go for it. But surely just not buying it is the biggest message you can send if you are so insulted by the price.
Pnewman it's unbiased in as much as we have no agreement with anyone to either promote or only positively endorse their gear. If we were the type of individuals to agree to that kind of situation we’d be up to our armpits in kit....and we're not. Again, you don't know us so I hope you'll take our word for it. No one's more surprised than us that Touratech didn't ask for 'something' in return for their support but they haven't!
You may be thinking of someone else, unless you were in South America and rode with us there, but I'm sure you didn't ..we would have remembered!!!I have met them, and ridden with them.
It will probably be just before the next TT catalogue is released
No it won’t be. Like I said…. Touratech didn't even know we were making the video. Don't you guys get exhausted going through life so cynically?
Vern for ‘fecks’ sake mate, we're not selling it and we're not Touratech
It here because it's part of our ride.OK, enough of all this. I think what I find a terrible shame is that after so many years of putting up photos and info and ride reports on this forum, why this one post has attracted more views and so many more responses than all the others?
Look at the end of the day I’ve had my say…and that’s what the forum is here for, but do me a favour….I know things are tough financially in the UK for everyone, but please don’t use Lisa or I as your personal web ‘punch-bags’. We wouldn’t do it to you and I know we haven’t deserved it. And I’m also hopeful that this ridiculously long post of mine has corrected a few of the misconceptions that were being bandied around as ‘truths’.
Ride safe, ride far and enjoy each mile.
(in your gore-tex lined suit, over suit, birthday suit, jeans and jacket or whatever else you choose to ride in)
Simon T
May I offer you both my personal apology, I know it won't mean much however. It is offered sincerely to you both.
my poorly timed humor may have been seen as an attack on you both, which it was not intended to be.
Lo
my poorly timed humor may have been seen as an attack on you both, which it was not intended to be.
Lo
Well said Simon
Funny how everyone got hung up on the price only (typical western values, no doubt) and forgot the rest
Funnily enough....................the best Rukka (already) and maybe BMW suits (in future) are heading up to £1500-£2k in cost
Helmets - Tour X £400 and Daytona Boots £300
Quality gear ain't cheap - if you fancy it
Thanks for the fabulous insight into your lives now and your values for life (I remember meeting you both @ Baskerville Hall, Hay on Wye in June 2002) - I wish I and many others could only dream of living the way you do...............but the truth is, many of us would be to scared too and I count myself in that category..................to abandon our 'cosy' western lifestyles to experience life at the basic end of the spectrum
Who is 'richer' in life.......................Simon and Lisa most certainly are, I would guess
Funny how everyone got hung up on the price only (typical western values, no doubt) and forgot the rest
Funnily enough....................the best Rukka (already) and maybe BMW suits (in future) are heading up to £1500-£2k in cost
Helmets - Tour X £400 and Daytona Boots £300
Quality gear ain't cheap - if you fancy it
Thanks for the fabulous insight into your lives now and your values for life (I remember meeting you both @ Baskerville Hall, Hay on Wye in June 2002) - I wish I and many others could only dream of living the way you do...............but the truth is, many of us would be to scared too and I count myself in that category..................to abandon our 'cosy' western lifestyles to experience life at the basic end of the spectrum
Who is 'richer' in life.......................Simon and Lisa most certainly are, I would guess
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Blimey now thats what you call a reply, I'm knackered just reading it
Ride safe and I'll have a Cotleigh for you.
Ride safe and I'll have a Cotleigh for you.
