Fitting a Givi AF330 to a 1200 GSA - method NOT pros and cons, please!

Hi Richard

Mine has turned out fine with trimmed teeth on the mounting bushes. It will only go back to standard if I replace the whole lot with OEM parts. Currently I have the Givi high at the front mouth and low on the slider. The effect is really quite amazing for stopping turbulence and wind noise.
 
Bendy toy said:
Hi Richard

Mine has turned out fine with trimmed teeth on the mounting bushes. It will only go back to standard if I replace the whole lot with OEM parts. Currently I have the Givi high at the front mouth and low on the slider. The effect is really quite amazing for stopping turbulence and wind noise.
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Hi Dave

AF330 now fitted - finally! You are right that the centre bush seems to be redundant but, having sourced a bit of more or less suitable tube it makes sense to use it. I have placed large diameter washers under the Givi spacer to ensure that the pressure is carried across the whole of the original plastic/nylon screen fitting.

Just to confirm: you have the bit which is on the bike as high as possible and the adjustable slider as low as possible. Yes? I'm 6'2'' on a good day. How tall are you ?

Cheers

Richard
 
I'm a shorty at 5ft 8"

Ive had the Givi on Tobinators a the front to bring to top edge closer to me but found the wunderlich vario mounts that lift about 20mm were good enough and gave a more solid fixing. I have the sliding rear mounts as high as they will go and the moveable screen set about 30mm above it's lowest point. I originally had the rear sliders set low thinking the sloping screen would be less turbulent. However, I found it best with the screen as near vertical as it will go.
 
Bendy toy said:
I'm a shorty at 5ft 8"

Ive had the Givi on Tobinators a the front to bring to top edge closer to me but found the wunderlich vario mounts that lift about 20mm were good enough and gave a more solid fixing. I have the sliding rear mounts as high as they will go and the moveable screen set about 30mm above it's lowest point. I originally had the rear sliders set low thinking the sloping screen would be less turbulent. However, I found it best with the screen as near vertical as it will go.
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Thanks Dave

Regards

Richard
 
Out yesterday with quite strong side winds the screen set higher seemed best. I was almost looking through the tip edge. Nice at speed but annoying at low speed. Today with normal winds, Ive got the screen well below eye line and still no turbulence. You have to play around with the settings.
 
Bendy toy said:
Out yesterday with quite strong side winds the screen set higher seemed best. I was almost looking through the tip edge. Nice at speed but annoying at low speed. Today with normal winds, Ive got the screen well below eye line and still no turbulence. You have to play around with the settings.
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Sounds very promising. On my OEM screen I fitted, after tormenting the long suffering subscribers to this forum, a Wunderlich aerofoil which was a snip at, I think, £80 which makes the Givi screen seem cheap. It has proved to be pretty effective at directing the airflow over my helmet. In fact, in scorching weather it is too good and the lack of airflow forces me to lean outside the screen to get any air. And rain on my visor does not clear for the same reason. I'm looking forward to being able to vary the airflow depending on my requirements.

Cheers

Richard
 
Don't scrap that Wunderlich widget. Being tall, it might come in handy on the Givi. The slider "can" be moved while riding but don't let it get too high as it can separate from the main screen. So the extension could allow you to keep the slider lower down.

Let us know how it all goes.
 
Bendy toy said:
Don't scrap that Wunderlich widget. Being tall, it might come in handy on the Givi. The slider "can" be moved while riding but don't let it get too high as it can separate from the main screen. So the extension could allow you to keep the slider lower down.

Let us know how it all goes.
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Certainly not! You won't be surprised to learn that I have stuff that only fits my R1150GS which I keep meaning to sell on. And the 1150 was three bikes ago :-)

Will assess the re-usability of the Wunderlich thingy. I'm not sure that I am brave (foolish?) enough to try to adjust the slider on the move.

Cheers

Richard
 
I know you did. :) 10 miles of head battering with another 10 miles to the next services. Oh booger it lets shuffle the slide up a bit. Sorted ;)

Not exactly ROSPA good advice but TBH little worse than riding one handed to give the left arm a change of position.
 
AF330 first impressions

I took the GSA plus AF330 for a spin round Wales at the weekend - Welsh Nation Rally - and covered about 800 miles.

Lower portion of the AF330 was left at the lowest setting on the OEM adjuster and I tried various settings for the moveable section.

I experienced no helmet buffeting at any height setting for the moveable portion irrespective of road speed. There was no reduction in the air flow felt on shoulders but this is not a problem as dealing with the helmet buffeting was the primary objective with opportunity for increased airflow to the face a secondary objective.

Airflow to my face seemed greater, but not excessive, with the moveable portion at the lowest setting and I think that even at motorway speeds I might be able to ride with the visor fully raised. I didn't try this for fear of losing a contact lens or encountering a high speed insect. In fact, there seemed to be more insect impacts on the visor than usual with the moveable screen at its lowest setting but that may be a false memory since it's nearly a year since I encountered any insects when riding. I think that the screen would require raising if riding in torrential rain but although I encountered such weather in Wales (no surprises there) I didn't feel like experimenting with the screen height.

It seems to have been a successful purchase. I'm not going to re-fit my OEM screen to see if adjusting it to the lowest setting results in the same reduction in the buffeting as I always used it on the highest setting with a Wunderlich airflow thingy :augie

As you will see from earlier posts to this thread, I found that it was beneficial to buy the GS fixings 46 63 7 673 913 and ..914 rather than clip the pins off the GSA versions. Also, the Top Hat bushes were replaced with some stainless steel tube. This latter change may not have been necessary.

The only minus is that the front edge of the lower portion protrudes just far enough over the lamps to reflect the light which is a bit distracting at night. I believe that I have seen an eyebrow thing that fits to the top of the lamp unit - like the sort of thing that Morris Traveller's sported many years ago. Is that possible?

Thanks to BendyToy for listening to my ramblings and for helpful suggestions.

Richard
 
Glad you got it sorted. :D

Do try it on every setting you might be surprised (or not) by what you find. Too deal with the glare you could put some black sticker plastic over the bottom edge above the headlight. A vehicle wrapping or sign company should have suitable offcuts.
 
Bendy toy said:
Glad you got it sorted. :D

Do try it on every setting you might be surprised (or not) by what you find. Too deal with the glare you could put some black sticker plastic over the bottom edge above the headlight. A vehicle wrapping or sign company should have suitable offcuts.
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Indeed I had the moveable portion at min and max, just need to play with the semi-fixed part but, overall, it is much better than the OEM screen. Ha ha: black insulting tape - the universal solution :-)
 
If a black "bonnet" was good enough on one of these, it's good enough for me. ;)

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Totally off topic. but the original Mustang X Merlin prototypes were built by Rolls Royce at Hucknall, Notts. They had a plane flying with a Merlin 60 in just 6 weeks. The nose looked like a Lancaster engine nacelle with big intercooler intake.

The super sleek P51D was only 4 mph faster than the original mock ups which says a lot for the quality of the original airframe.

Some had an air exit louvre behind the engine.
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It's often said that Jeffery Quill said the plane cried out for a Merlin engine. Actually it was Ronald W Harker a RR test pilot who recognised the plane's high altitude potential (and maybe a market or RR engines). But saying that it was Harker who said the Avro Manchester would work with four Merlins and so the Lancaster was born.

This is now quite a rare book but full of memos and personal stuff about the projects.
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