Fork Stanchion recall?

Maybe, people are too quick on the attack because it's BMW. I remember when I got my new 2008 Fazer 1000 and the talk then was of frames cracking on the welds, Quite serious stuff but I don't remember Yamaha being criticized like this.


Did you take your Fazer off-road? Suspect not.

The GS is designed for doing just that and it now transpires BMW have kept quiet about this issue for a couple of years. It's a nightmare of their own creation and the very least they should've done is have owners monitor the issue hiding behind the rubber covers. They were never going to do that were they, so instead they adopt a head in sand and cross your fingers approach to a potentially life ending issue. Owners can close their eyes and ignore the possibility of failures I guess, but that certainly isn't me.

In the meantime I'm not sure press fitting a bush over a press fitted potential weakness does it for me. I think they have problem with drilling and fixing the stanchion bushes in place, which would be one obvious solution, as I guess they run the risk of water in or oil out. Or weakening the inserts, which would make matters no better. That said, we all know whatever 'fix' is adopted it will be at least cost as a damage limitation deal.
 
Did you take your Fazer off-road? Suspect not.

The GS is designed for doing just that and it now transpires BMW have kept quiet about this issue for a couple of years. It's a nightmare of their own creation and the very least they should've done is have owners monitor the issue hiding behind the rubber covers. They were never going to do that were they, so instead they adopt a head in sand and cross your fingers approach to a potentially life ending issue. Owners can close their eyes and ignore the possibility of failures I guess, but that certainly isn't me.

In the meantime I'm not sure press fitting a bush over a press fitted potential weakness does it for me. I think they have problem with drilling and fixing the stanchion bushes in place, which would be one obvious solution, as I guess they run the risk of water in or oil out. Or weakening the inserts, which would make matters no better. That said, we all know whatever 'fix' is adopted it will be at least cost as a damage limitation deal.

So you're selling it I presume ? The Fazer was a road bike yet still had a few bikes with a cracked frame. Might have been wheelie induced, who knows. But it shows that these things happen.
 
So you're selling it I presume ? The Fazer was a road bike yet still had a few bikes with a cracked frame. Might have been wheelie induced, who knows. But it shows that these things happen.

Sell it? That would be a sad day. That option is well and truly on the table if it's not fixed up properly though. Sometimes all you can do is march with yer feet.


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I'll give you another anecdote.

I had a Suzuki SV1000S. These bikes had a design flaw in what became known as "The green connector" problem. This electrical connector would overheat and burn its contacts. The result was that at any time, overtaking, cranked over, basically anytime, the bike could suffer a complete shutdown of everything electrical. No ignition meant no engine power in an instant. Fortunately, this happened to me only once at low speed. Suzuki never issued a recall for this and lots of owners just cut out the connector and soldered the wires together. Suzuki never acknowledged the problem.

Problems with bikes is not limited to BMW. At least they do tend to fix their bikes, usually free of charge and compared to other manufacturers are quite good about it.
 
Mine is in now for a service, they have also checked the forks and are replacing them under warranty... MY2015, 10000 miles

it looks like the are crimping full circle then adding an over sleeve..
 
Surely if it was a problem it would have shown up on the"BMW Off Road Skills"bikes?


Mine is 2014 and ex training school bike. Used since for off road quite a bit. No gap on the stanchions. Everything fine. Not concerned about the issue. It's effected a few people. Who knows how or what they did with their bikes beforehand. The image of the squared off front wheel from a previous impact the guy with the broken bike had is telling. I think it's caused a lot of needless worry, though not to deny such things need to be checked
 
Mine is 2014 and ex training school bike. Used since for off road quite a bit. No gap on the stanchions. Everything fine. Not concerned about the issue. It's effected a few people. Who knows how or what they did with their bikes beforehand. The image of the squared off front wheel from a previous impact the guy with the broken bike had is telling. I think it's caused a lot of needless worry, though not to deny such things need to be checked

Like I've said previously, tell that to the bloke with 10 broken ribs. If you're not worried, well done you. I'll stick with getting mine properly fixed even if they think it 'looks' fine and even if I have to pay for it.


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Problems with bikes is not limited to BMW. At least they do tend to fix their bikes, usually free of charge and compared to other manufacturers are quite good about it.

I can't agree with that statement in this case.

Many of us think it's a problem that existed back in 2013 (Kevin Ash RIP ?) and yet the worldwide recall only happened this month !
Quite some time for them to get their act together imho.....

Could a quicker redesign have prevented accidents ? Who knows ?
 
I'll stick with getting mine properly fixed.

Are you sure your proposed fix will 'properly' solve the problem?

How many have been sold vs the original design? What is the failure rate of both the BMW design and the proper fix?

Without this info you cannot make an informed decision.
 
I can't agree with that statement in this case.

Many of us think it's a problem that existed back in 2013 (Kevin Ash RIP ?) and yet the worldwide recall only happened this month !
Quite some time for them to get their act together imho.....

Could a quicker redesign have prevented accidents ? Who knows ?

What problem back in 2013 are you referring to ? Fork stanchions ? As I have said mine is a September 2013 registered bike and is not affected by this and neither would the bike Kevin Ash died on.
 
Like I've said previously, tell that to the bloke with 10 broken ribs. If you're not worried, well done you. I'll stick with getting mine properly fixed even if they think it 'looks' fine and even if I have to pay for it.


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If my piecing together is correct then that is the same guy who was pushing on that hard in an off road environment that he put a foot long flat spot on the front rim. There's getting out and using a bike for its intended purpose, then there's abusing it. Even a motocross bike will fail if it gets too much hammer. You carry on fretting. I'll carry on riding.
 
What problem back in 2013 are you referring to ? Fork stanchions ? As I have said mine is a September 2013 registered bike and is not affected by this and neither would the bike Kevin Ash died on.

Stop letting facts get in the way of a which hunt
 
I've put 3500 brilliant miles on mine in ten weeks. Like me, most of us appreciate the GS for all sorts of riding reasons. However, this captivating thread may be testing the confidence of those whose concern has been gripped by the potential for a riding disaster.

I'm as concerned as the next person (or maybe the next but two) but... I for one, as a pure road rider, would like to establish some perspective.

Who as a road only rider (A, B or unclassed roads) has established the aforementioned stanchion gap exists on their bike? It might be interesting to note the mileage, year or anything else of note; perhaps pillion miles covered etc... stuff like that.

Clearly I'm asking as I'm interested and interested in settling my mind.

No gap on my bike.

2017 non ESA.

Mainly UK B roads.

Nothing else to note.

Ed
 
What problem back in 2013 are you referring to ? Fork stanchions ? As I have said mine is a September 2013 registered bike and is not affected by this and neither would the bike Kevin Ash died on.
The dealer told me the same,, the early 2013 models were not affected and don't need inspecting. He explained, 3 months after the lc was released, bmw found a cheaper supplier for there stanchions. I will be getting mine checked though just for peace of mind.
 
The dealer told me the same,, the early 2013 models were not affected and don't need inspecting. He explained, 3 months after the lc was released, bmw found a cheaper supplier for there stanchions. I will be getting mine checked though just for peace of mind.

Sorry, I don't buy into that. Easiest thing in the world to blame a supplier. Said supplier will have made them to a tolerance, to a BMW design (or their supplier design). I have every faith that machined parts will have all been manufactured to exacting standards. As far as I'm aware the stanchions themselves aren't breaking, but they're leaving the tubes. Every time I think about this my jaw hits the floor.

Two more sleeps until I'm reunited with my much loved GS in Geneva. Apart from its leaking fork seal which Geneva Motorrad are fixing first thing Monday, I'm hoping I don't discover worse.
 
Sorry, I don't buy into that. Easiest thing in the world to blame a supplier. Said supplier will have made them to a tolerance, to a BMW design (or their supplier design). I have every faith that machined parts will have all been manufactured to exacting standards. As far as I'm aware the stanchions themselves aren't breaking, but they're leaving the tubes. Every time I think about this my jaw hits the floor.

Two more sleeps until I'm reunited with my much loved GS in Geneva. Apart from its leaking fork seal which Geneva Motorrad are fixing first thing Monday, I'm hoping I don't discover worse.

check them before every ride, buy some of the stanch alloy thingys and go from there.
 
Sorry, I don't buy into that. Easiest thing in the world to blame a supplier. Said supplier will have made them to a tolerance, to a BMW design (or their supplier design). I have every faith that machined parts will have all been manufactured to exacting standards. As far as I'm aware the stanchions themselves aren't breaking, but they're leaving the tubes. Every time I think about this my jaw hits the floor.

Two more sleeps until I'm reunited with my much loved GS in Geneva. Apart from its leaking fork seal which Geneva Motorrad are fixing first thing Monday, I'm hoping I don't discover worse.
Sounds feazable to me but Maybe he is fibbing ,, who knows. Enjoy your bike .
 


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