Fork Stanchion recall?

roadrunner said:
No, get the BMW fix. These will void warranty.
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The BMW fix....you mean have the tops pushed back in? Thanks for the advice but that's not good enough. I don't really give a monkeys about the warranty and I suspect if you hit the front of the bike the warranty won't help fix your face, or the rest of you. The approach of 'if it looks OK do nothing' isn't good enough.


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Edmund Kean said:
Post #196 Isn't that referring to an old model GS? The link I found was for the K50.

Apologies in advance if I'm behind on this...
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It may be for pre LC bikes as it was issued in april 2013 and talks about high mileage bikes and is the reason we now have crimped in end plugs on the LC.
 
CPJS said:
It may be for pre LC bikes as it was issued in april 2013 and talks about high mileage bikes and is the reason we now have crimped in end plugs on the LC.
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Oh right probably then. It's just when I search BMW K50 for some reason I get photos of an LC GS... bit odd?
 
I believe that K50 and K51 are the internal BMW model designations for the GS LC and GSA LC respectively.

So for example, if you see panniers being advertised as suitable for the K50 then that means they are designed for the LC version of the GS as pre-LC models have the exhaust and shaft drive on the opposite sides which obviously affects the design of the panniers. It also means that if they are the BMW Vario cases, then they will require the GS LC version of the passenger footpeg hangers because these provide a prong which acts as the front pannier mount, and will therefore not mount on the GSA which has different footrest hangers with fixing brackets for the tubular pannier frames which fit the GSA.
 
fred_jb said:
I believe that K50 and K51 are the internal BMW model designations for the GS LC and GSA LC respectively.

So for example, if you see panniers being advertised as suitable for the K50 then that means they are designed for the LC version of the GS as pre-LC models have the exhaust and shaft drive on the opposite sides which obviously affects the design of the panniers. It also means that if they are the BMW Vario cases, then they will require the GS LC version of the passenger footpeg hangers because these provide a prong which acts as the front pannier mount, and will therefore not mount on the GSA which has different footrest hangers with fixing brackets for the tubular pannier frames which fit the GSA.
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https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM437931/RCRIT-13V154-6790.pdf

So a K50 is an LC GS. And according to the link, the first few LC GS's in the US had threaded forks without crimps.
 
gerarddwatts said:
Anybody know anything about this?

https://xladv.com/topic/1060-gsgsa-fork-stanchion-problems/

Seems to be more for those going off road, but a mate in Switzerland got a recall from his dealer?
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I have had first hand experience of this fork separation issue. My friend could have been killed when his forks separated, it chucked him down a rocky road and it is only that he is built like Shrek that he survived. Other people on the same off-road trip, including myself had the same problem but without the fork leg totally separating. This was in South Africa

We contacted BMW back in November 2016 and were totally ignored, in fact after repeated emails and phone calls BMW blamed us for not looking after the bikes.

I am disgusted with BMW 's response as I wrote to warn them of the issue in November 2016 and they only sent a reply saying that my email had been received, no other correspondence.

I own a R1200GS LC in the UK and have used it off-road without issues mainly ridden in soft muddy conditions however until I know exactly what BMW intend to do about this I am not sure where to take this next.

It would appear to me that remedial work is required to fix this and cannot see the point of a service inspection alone.

Below is a cartoon I drew at the time of the crash, fell free to share it.
 

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Edmund Kean said:
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM437931/RCRIT-13V154-6790.pdf

So a K50 is an LC GS. And according to the link, the first few LC GS's in the US had threaded forks without crimps.
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Could that be mine then - September 2013, before the November issues?

Not that it matters as the furthest off road is been is across the path to my garden..

Anyone want to buy an early, sought after GS LC with fully functional GSAP and recent new engine?
 
Mr Bean said:
Could that be mine then - September 2013, before the November issues?

Not that it matters as the furthest off road is been is across the path to my garden..

Anyone want to buy an early, sought after GS LC with fully functional GSAP and recent new engine?
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Have you slipped the neoprene sleeve down to check if crimps are evident?
 
Edmund Kean said:
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM437931/RCRIT-13V154-6790.pdf

So a K50 is an LC GS. And according to the link, the first few LC GS's in the US had threaded forks without crimps.
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That's interesting. Looks like the LC started off with threaded plugs, but was changed to crimped early on in production, presumably to avoid problems with the threaded type, and now there are problems with the crimped version. Does anyone know what method of fixing was used on the pre-LC models? If it was threaded, and there were no reports of problems, I wonder what is different about the LC that makes the threaded type unsuitable.
 
Edmund Kean said:
Have you slipped the neoprene sleeve down to check if crimps are evident?
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I have faith in the masters back in the Fatherland and if the say it only potentially affects November 2013 onwards I believe them :D
 
Faith is based on knowledge. Ask the bloke who broke 10 ribs if he has faith! In this instance, faith needs to be based on a permanent fix that demonstrates total reliability. For me, ideally, that means in a crash or whatever it may bend but it NEVER separates. It's not going to happen so as it stands my 'faith' is extremely week.


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