GARMIN TO STOP MAP DOWNLOADS TO PC - DEVICE ONLY

Andy B

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What it says in the title really.

Speaking to some Neanderthal at Garmin Support this afternoon, who hadn't the slightest interest in helping me with my query, could only continually repeat this fact. It's still available on the current products but will be phased out with any new versions of map downloads introduced.

I except that many people probably won't have an issue with this, but i plan routes over a period of time on my laptop, and it could be done at work, home or on the train. Having to carry my Zumo everywhere doesn't fill me with joy!

If you want to appeal against this proposal you could try doing what I was directed to do - go to garmin.com/ideas and say your piece.:augie
 
are you saying it will still be possible to plot routes on a pc, but your garmin device will need to be connected to allow access to the maps?
 
That's right. Basecamp/Mapsource will read the maps directly from the device rather than the arrangement which I have been used to which is to have the maps on both my PC and the Zumo.
 
another step backwards from garmin then :blast

they really are a bunch of clowns.
 
Surely if you have Basecamp or Mapsource installed on your PC, then you can still use that to plan routes and download to your device? Why, and indeed how, would they stop you being able to do that?
 
Are you sure this is not a confusion arising from their announcement that the new Basecamp (V4.3) in 2014 will not run on XP? This is because it will require the new .net framework which XP does not support. It doesn't make sense that they will prevent map installs if they are preparing a new Basecamp, does it? :confused:
 
mcinlb said:
Start using TYRE(on your PC) to plan routes and download them later to your device. :thumb2
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Wont solve the problem, just means you are using crap Google maps instead of the better Garmin ones. You could try the even better openstreetmap ones!

John
 
Surely if you have Basecamp or Mapsource installed on your PC, then you can still use that to plan routes and download to your device? Why, and indeed how, would they stop you being able to do that?
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Basecamp/Mapsource is just a shell. It does come with the generic maps but they are pretty crap. When you buy maps from Garmin, or load the disc that comes with a new device it is this that actually gives you the Garmin maps.

Are you sure this is not a confusion arising from their announcement that the new Basecamp (V4.3) in 2014 will not run on XP? This is because it will require the new .net framework which XP does not support. It doesn't make sense that they will prevent map installs if they are preparing a new Basecamp, does it?
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The guy at Garmin was very specific, and so was I in confirming what he had said. You will only be able to download maps to your device. In order to see and use those maps on your PC the device will have to be connected to the PC.
 
So what if you buy more than one map?

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However many maps you have sit alongside each other and you can use the drop-down box on the toolbar to chose which one you want to use. If you get an upgrade there's very little point in using an earlier version but, for example, I have a load of OpenSource maps in Basecamp for America which I have been using to plot a journey next year. Saves needing to buy them from Garmin!:thumb2
 
Andy B said:
However many maps you have sit alongside each other and you can use the drop-down box on the toolbar to chose which one you want to use. If you get an upgrade there's very little point in using an earlier version but, for example, I have a load of OpenSource maps in Basecamp for America which I have been using to plot a journey next year. Saves needing to buy them from Garmin!:thumb2
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Yeah, so do I. Maps from all kind of sources. My point is if You can only update the device how do you update two different maps? Are you saying that Garmin will insist we buy sufficient SD cards to hold our new maps. Also, for some time now the update to CN Europe, which I have a lifetime update licence for, doesn't all fit on the Zumo 660 so has to be stored on the PC so I can load the bits I need for a particular trip. :confused:
 
On the plus side, at least we'll only have to struggle getting the maps onto the device now..


Oh hang on, garmin say we have to put the maps on the PC first cos they don't fit on the device.
 
Yeah, so do I. Maps from all kind of sources. My point is if You can only update the device how do you update two different maps? Are you saying that Garmin will insist we buy sufficient SD cards to hold our new maps. Also, for some time now the update to CN Europe, which I have a lifetime update licence for, doesn't all fit on the Zumo 660 so has to be stored on the PC so I can load the bits I need for a particular trip.
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I can't answer all of this! Logic would suggest that every device has it's own maps and so whenever you plug a device in what you get is whatever maps are on that device - current or otherwise. But that's no different from how is now is it? I have two Garmin's running different maps and if I try to load a route created in one set of maps onto the wrong device it simply warns me that the map might not read right if I don't use the correct maps. As for the size of downloads, I think that's a very valid point! It's not one I've ever had to face yet but I'm well aware that it is one of the biggest issues for Zumo owners.

Use the link above and make your point!
 
or certain maps will be registered to a certain device so you can have lots of maps on a pc but will only be able to read certain ones with a certain device, which means you have to BUY the map again for another device,good way of making money and saying its a way to stop copies being made:aidan, as was said, so still stitching us up for more money. stuff the trees BUY PAPER MAPS
 
I'll need an official announcement from Garmin before I believe this. The CSR that that OP spoke to might be misinformed, I sincerely hope that's the case.

Garmin would be cutting off an admittedly proportionately diminishing, but extremely loyal, customer base. The take-up of sat nav by your average man/woman on the street has steered their marketing and development. Users who plot routes on a PC are a niche market that's getting marginalised. Go back 5 or so years and it was a different story.

If all else fails there's OpenStreetMap as a very viable alternative. The prospect of buying another Garmin in the future, I'm on Nº6 with my 660, would be seriously in question if this rumour were true. I would just stick with what I've got and OSM until it died and then replace with a used one of the same. The current new models have nothing I want other than more internal memory and, having said that, the SD card in the 660 conquers that problem anyway.
 
These changes don't suit me, but bear in mind that it is not a major move on from where we are today is it?:nenau All maps, whether on your PC or your device are personal to that device. It is just that Garmin lets you keep a copy of the maps on your PC too.

The ball-ache of this is having to have the SatNav with you whenever you want to create maps. If I'm at home and the SatNav in on the shelf it ain't the end of the world. With a 660 it's just the pain of having to take the cover off to get at the USB socket.:blast For me though, I'm not going to carry my SatNav with me on the train or to my office.

Make your views known - I have: HERE
 
Having done a bit of digging I now know that this is already the case for some maps, CN S America for example. It seems CN EU and CN US are relativley unusual in allowing download to PC. We'll see.
 
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