So if you buy a second hand unit do you have to pay to register it in your name? I’m talking about the hobby version with 10 vins
GS 911
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No, you simply transfer ownership over, I’ve bought a couple of them second hand off this site.
OK cheers. So if anyone has one for sale let me know.
be aware multiple versions out there...
little point in a yellow one these days if you own anything newer (or intend to later)
for the modern features you need a red wifi version (as it does much of the clever stuff online as you work)
and most importantly the vast majority have a 10 VIN number limitation - they have recently gone to great lengths to ensure the licensing of VIN numbers is robust and many of the later advanced feature you may want only operate after an online check were the licensing of VIN's is thoroughly investigated.
thus if you buy one of these secondhand you need to be well aware how many of the 10 are used up - there were the vastly more costly unlimited license editions (but these are gone now) they have moved multi bike users to an annual licensing subscription...
little point in a yellow one these days if you own anything newer (or intend to later)
for the modern features you need a red wifi version (as it does much of the clever stuff online as you work)
and most importantly the vast majority have a 10 VIN number limitation - they have recently gone to great lengths to ensure the licensing of VIN numbers is robust and many of the later advanced feature you may want only operate after an online check were the licensing of VIN's is thoroughly investigated.
thus if you buy one of these secondhand you need to be well aware how many of the 10 are used up - there were the vastly more costly unlimited license editions (but these are gone now) they have moved multi bike users to an annual licensing subscription...
AJJCornish
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Motoscan Ultimate is a good option...take a look at the "Old Mechanic" on youtube.
AJJCornish
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They are bloody handy bits of kit...enjoy the pleasure of NOT going to the main STEALERS to read the codes! 
100% sure... mine is both
On the early Yellow units were either USB or USB and bluetooth.
The bluetooth version was to work with a phone but with limited capability.
USB with laptop is ideal.
The bluetooth version was to work with a phone but with limited capability.
USB with laptop is ideal.
Mine is just USB.
The Bluetooth version was bloody handy for live data acquisition, one of the cheapest data loggers you could get
Hi All
My 2010 Twin Cam will be coming out of warranty later this year, so will start doing all of the maintenance myself.
It has been looked after by the dealers so far as I was doing lots of miles, £30k/PA and I needed the ride in ride out that they provide via their loan bikes.
Too be fair the warranty has been useful (I know many will disagree!) but I have had driveshaft, alternator, starter motor, exhaust, dash, clutch to name a few of the larger items.
I will have reached 80K miles in a couple of months, so the warranty won't be extended and my commute miles are now minimal, so will revert to home mechanics (I am more than capable
)
I will therefore require some form of diagnostics and service reset.
The GS-911 seemed to be the go to device, but I took AJCCornish advice and looked into the MotoScan app.
After looking at the various pros and cons ie limited VINs, coding, dual use of device, I indeed opted for the MotoScan app.
This was not based on cost, as for me, they weren't that far apart.
I didn't have an android phone, so needed to purchase one of those and the recommended OBD adapter is not particularly cheap.
My setup consists of:-
Blackview ruggedised android phone BV5300 Pro, 'case' (more like a small satchell!) & screen protector
OBDLink MX+ bluetooth adapter
Motoscan Ultimate app
I already had a 10 pin to OBD cable
This setup cost just under £312.
One of my reasons for going this route is that I also use OBD diagnostics for BMW cars and there are some very good android apps for that and the OBDLink adapter is very capable, unlike a lot of the generic ELM327 adapters.
I'm also thinking that the phone could double up as a GPS device too, rather than trash my iPhone, so maybe some additional use there.
So far I have only flicked through the menus, just scratching the surface of the possibilities.
Other than service resets, diagnostics etc, one job on the list is to replace the TPMS as they are becoming unreliable, for which MotoScan will enable.
I can also add tyre temperatures to the rider info.....how have I managed without that...almost worth £300 just for that.
Hope that's of interest
Dazlove
My 2010 Twin Cam will be coming out of warranty later this year, so will start doing all of the maintenance myself.
It has been looked after by the dealers so far as I was doing lots of miles, £30k/PA and I needed the ride in ride out that they provide via their loan bikes.
Too be fair the warranty has been useful (I know many will disagree!) but I have had driveshaft, alternator, starter motor, exhaust, dash, clutch to name a few of the larger items.
I will have reached 80K miles in a couple of months, so the warranty won't be extended and my commute miles are now minimal, so will revert to home mechanics (I am more than capable
)I will therefore require some form of diagnostics and service reset.
The GS-911 seemed to be the go to device, but I took AJCCornish advice and looked into the MotoScan app.
After looking at the various pros and cons ie limited VINs, coding, dual use of device, I indeed opted for the MotoScan app.
This was not based on cost, as for me, they weren't that far apart.
I didn't have an android phone, so needed to purchase one of those and the recommended OBD adapter is not particularly cheap.
My setup consists of:-
Blackview ruggedised android phone BV5300 Pro, 'case' (more like a small satchell!) & screen protector
OBDLink MX+ bluetooth adapter
Motoscan Ultimate app
I already had a 10 pin to OBD cable
This setup cost just under £312.
One of my reasons for going this route is that I also use OBD diagnostics for BMW cars and there are some very good android apps for that and the OBDLink adapter is very capable, unlike a lot of the generic ELM327 adapters.
I'm also thinking that the phone could double up as a GPS device too, rather than trash my iPhone, so maybe some additional use there.
So far I have only flicked through the menus, just scratching the surface of the possibilities.
Other than service resets, diagnostics etc, one job on the list is to replace the TPMS as they are becoming unreliable, for which MotoScan will enable.
I can also add tyre temperatures to the rider info.....how have I managed without that...almost worth £300 just for that.
Hope that's of interest
Dazlove
Thanks for all that and I must have a look at the TPMS temperatures!
Just a quick Q was there any reason for picking the above OBD reader over say the Unicarscan UCSI-2100 ?
I thought he suggested it was so he could play on his car
but id a BM car I suspect the Unicarscan UCSI-2100 would be better - but all round multibrand I don't think its suitable
the dongle thing is a pain - as yet no one makes one that does everything for all vehicles
GM use some weird CAN few other do
Ford had high and low speed CAN that used to trip up lesser ones - and then they recently discovered all the way back to 2007 ford had a system for programming modules that seems to fake an 18V signal and if you don't you brick the module - and very few of even the high end ones can do that - vlinker support 18Volt FEPS but only on some of their models !
then there's the fight on a cableless connection for convenience is Wifi better than Bluetooth - and that's ongoing as far as I know - Motoscan felt anything other then Bluetooth was a joke - whilst Merc went wifi but it was unreliable and I thought they are all now going to Bluetooth for the VCI - which is now the industry term for the multiplexing madness that allows either multiple CANbus systems to talk at once or reliable auto switching across networks - but no one explained what VCI meant - the other day I suddenly thought oh do they mean vehicle communication interface
but id a BM car I suspect the Unicarscan UCSI-2100 would be better - but all round multibrand I don't think its suitable
the dongle thing is a pain - as yet no one makes one that does everything for all vehicles
GM use some weird CAN few other do
Ford had high and low speed CAN that used to trip up lesser ones - and then they recently discovered all the way back to 2007 ford had a system for programming modules that seems to fake an 18V signal and if you don't you brick the module - and very few of even the high end ones can do that - vlinker support 18Volt FEPS but only on some of their models !
then there's the fight on a cableless connection for convenience is Wifi better than Bluetooth - and that's ongoing as far as I know - Motoscan felt anything other then Bluetooth was a joke - whilst Merc went wifi but it was unreliable and I thought they are all now going to Bluetooth for the VCI - which is now the industry term for the multiplexing madness that allows either multiple CANbus systems to talk at once or reliable auto switching across networks - but no one explained what VCI meant - the other day I suddenly thought oh do they mean vehicle communication interface
As far as I can tell the Unicarscan is pretty well as much a generic bluetooth OBD reader as the OBDLink and can be used on the same bikes & cars. I was just wondering if the OBDLink had some other functionality or ease of use feature that made it better.
for a few bits of basic data transfer many devices do something.... the thing is every manufacturer has invented their own comms protocols - so idiots can't work on the vehicles - ODB2 standard is some archaic joke - its like having a two berth tent vs the trump tower that BMW use
and once upon a time kids all had their version of what's the best one to molest BMW cars - then out of the blue unicarscan came along and blew them all out of the water and is the one to have for breaking a BMW car or bike
few here discuss but the creator of motoscan is a super guru in the world of diagnostics and knows a lot more than most
The adapter supports the sending of long messages as well as CAN bus via the K-Line and completely segments the CAN messages when sending, so that you do not have problems with timings if you have to send the long messages during encoding or other special functions. The ELM327 and compatible adapters can only send 8 bytes by default. UniCarScan, on the other hand, has the full length of 255 bytes.
Supported protocols
OBD-2 protocols
- ISO9141-2
- KWP2000 slow init
- KWP2000 almost init
- CAN 11bit/250kB
- CAN 11bit/500kB
- CAN 29bit/250kB
- CAN 29bit/500kB
BMW OEM protocols
- KWP2000
- KWP2000*
- D-CAN
- UDS
But it will not work on GM, Ford, and certain FCA vehicles built before model year 2008.
| ISO 15765-4 | ISO 14230-4 | ISO 9141-2 | J1850 PWM (Ford) | J1850 VPW (GM) | MS-CAN (Ford) | SW-CAN (GM) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| OBDLink MX+ | x | x | x | x | x | x | x |
| OBDLink EX | x | x | x | x | x | x | |
| OBDLink CX | x | x | x | ||||
| OBDLink LX | x | x | x | x | x | ||
| OBDLink SX | x | x | x | x | x |
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AJJCornish
Registered user
Glad you are enjoying the Motoscan...cracking bit of kit! I have an Autel Maxi AP200 that also works on an App on my iPhone...I use that on VW, Peugeot and Vauxhall at the moment, with loads of other manufactures available at a yearly sub of £19. For my BMW 5 series estate I have a Fox stand alone unit which is set up for all the main functions (ABS bleeding etc) and I find that to be very easy to use.Hi All
My 2010 Twin Cam will be coming out of warranty later this year, so will start doing all of the maintenance myself.
It has been looked after by the dealers so far as I was doing lots of miles, £30k/PA and I needed the ride in ride out that they provide via their loan bikes.
Too be fair the warranty has been useful (I know many will disagree!) but I have had driveshaft, alternator, starter motor, exhaust, dash, clutch to name a few of the larger items.
I will have reached 80K miles in a couple of months, so the warranty won't be extended and my commute miles are now minimal, so will revert to home mechanics (I am more than capable
I will therefore require some form of diagnostics and service reset.
The GS-911 seemed to be the go to device, but I took AJCCornish advice and looked into the MotoScan app.
After looking at the various pros and cons ie limited VINs, coding, dual use of device, I indeed opted for the MotoScan app.
This was not based on cost, as for me, they weren't that far apart.
I didn't have an android phone, so needed to purchase one of those and the recommended OBD adapter is not particularly cheap.
My setup consists of:-
Blackview ruggedised android phone BV5300 Pro, 'case' (more like a small satchell!) & screen protector
OBDLink MX+ bluetooth adapter
Motoscan Ultimate app
I already had a 10 pin to OBD cable
This setup cost just under £312.
One of my reasons for going this route is that I also use OBD diagnostics for BMW cars and there are some very good android apps for that and the OBDLink adapter is very capable, unlike a lot of the generic ELM327 adapters.
I'm also thinking that the phone could double up as a GPS device too, rather than trash my iPhone, so maybe some additional use there.
So far I have only flicked through the menus, just scratching the surface of the possibilities.
Other than service resets, diagnostics etc, one job on the list is to replace the TPMS as they are becoming unreliable, for which MotoScan will enable.
I can also add tyre temperatures to the rider info.....how have I managed without that...almost worth £300 just for that.
Hope that's of interest
Dazlove
My Android phone was off eBay and cost £20...dont need a sim as you can down load the app with WiFi or piggy back off a HotSpot.
Good luck and Cheers AJ
AJJCornish
Registered user
Nobody's denying any of that but the OBDLink does the same (as far as I can see). So why would someone buy one over the other?
Neat. I wonder if it works with the LCs - will have a look in a couple of weeks when I've got the bike under cover. I liked his TPMS wake up device as well
