GSA RACK

[Notsomadmax]

Anyone using the OEM GSA rack with a Givi 5102 plate? I'm in the process of changing my GS style high rack to the GSA OEM so my Givi E55and E58 outback sits a bit lower/flatter and gives the Mrs a bit more room and it has come to my attention that everything relevant to top box says 10kg max which I have to admit I have surpassed on numerous occasions but the sra 5102 plate says 6kg max...really? has anyone pushed a load on and had any issues?

 

[younger06]

I have that plate on my GSA, and I use a Kappa 46ltr box. On a few occasions I have well exceeded 10kgs, I wouldn't worry about it. If you do go a little overboard, ROK strap the whole thing to the GSA rack (with a roll bag on top for good measure!!)

 

[Notsomadmax]

Yep done that..

 

[Bendy toy]

I'm in the process of making a "plate" to bolt to the GSA afterthought rack.

One of these kits fitted to an alloy sheet plate that bolts where the OEM top case add-on normally bolts to. Just get the case correctly placed before drilling. The tapered base suggest's likely to be further back than expected.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121492140059?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[Bendy toy]

These work for pushbikes and don't take the rider off at the first turn.

So why not this for a GSA. Leans with the bike and the bike carries only 20% of the weight.

Out of the box but better than crapping up the bike handling with excess weight.

 

[Pukmeister]

That'll be a joy to lug across Europe at 80mph and it surely wont affect handling over those alpine hairpins like a top box

 

[Notsomadmax]

That'll be a joy to lug across Europe at 80mph and it surely wont affect handling over those alpine hairpins like a top box

 

[bigmadstu]

Problem I find with more luggage capacity is the wife will just take more stuff and use all of the capacity...

 

[Notsomadmax]

Problem I find with more luggage capacity is the wife will just take more stuff and use all of the capacity...

I don't have that issue A. Although I call her the Mrs she isn't my wife, and B. I throw out anything I don't think she needs... She learnt to travel light on a Fireblade when she realised everything would be in the rucksack that would be attached to her 5ft tall 51kg body... The only extra room shes getting with the rack swap is hopefully a bit more room on the pillion seat.

 

[Slipperyeel]

That'll be a joy to lug across Europe at 80mph and it surely wont affect handling over those alpine hairpins like a top box

My thoughts exactly

 

[Bendy toy]

Normal trailer couplings hinge in all directions. Bumps push the bike back end sideways and they lean the opposite way to the bike on bends - really not good. Monowheels make far mores sense. Anyone who's used a Bob Yak will appreciate their worth.

Monowheels couplings are a universal joint allowing up-down-left-right but no twist. They don't push the bike side to side when they hit a bump. They carry 80% of the weight and it's lower down than the bike luggage so while there is more weight to change direction (when steering) the smaller angular distance means less steering inertia. The trailer runs in the low pressure area behind the bike so fuel consumption is likely to be no worse than with house brick luggage cases.

Everything is locked away no more soft bags to get slashed/walked away with. Something like the Dakar thingy with bike side cases either side of the wheel puts the weight further back and the whole rig is less wide.

 

[Slipperyeel]

I think the load carrying logic is clear (and good ) but somehow i can't see it 'adding' to the fun factor, in the twisties for example. We might be wrong thinking that, but i would love to see some video of someone negotiating a downhill mountain route with one of these attached.

It all seems a little over the top for a Euro based, road trip? Or did i missed something? That aside, i think it looks like a brilliant solution to carrying a serious amount of gear

 

[Bendy toy]

A fully loaded monowheel has got to affect the fun factor but fully loaded luggage is far from pleasant. I think the trailer is the least worst option when a lot of stuff needs to be carried.
The trailer can be left at holiday digs or padlocked to a tree at the camp site. So much more secure than cases and soft bags.

This makes the point

 

[Notsomadmax]

A great idea I'm sure, but having only taken the plunge to a GS this time last year I still have to chuckle a bit when I hear the words worse fuel consumption and Handling and aerodynamics being messed up...

Throw that lot on a Fireblade or a Blackbird and you will really feel some adverse affects. I haven't done much this year as I don't have the funds others may have but I've been from East to far southwest and had a good old jaunt around loaded as above with the lady, camping gear, tent the lot. Yes it is different to non loaded but the Bike does itself proud and their is only 80kg and 5'9" of me to hold it up. So I for one am not going to worry that my about as aerodynamic as a Barn door of a GS Adventure that does nearly double the consumption of previous bikes might use a bit more fuel or feel a bit hefty, its a big old Tractor designed to pull..

 

[Bendy toy]

Dead right anyone spending megabux on a 1200cc 1/4 ton bike should not be worrying about fuel costs. Tank range though is another thing. Simply piling stuff all over the bike and expecting it to handle ok is really not thinking very clearly.

The last Stafford show I went to had a stand selling and aerodynamic trailer especially for sports bikes. It made loads of sense but totally the wrong audience.

 

[Notsomadmax]

Above Loaded to hell but all balanced.

 

[stanley]

I've cycle-toured many thousands of miles with a Bob Yak trailer.... They very much do mess up the handling!
They drag a lot; bounce off the smallest imperfections; push into bends., etc.
Just take less stuff!

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[DeuceBG]

A fully loaded monowheel has got to affect the fun factor but fully loaded luggage is far from pleasant. I think the trailer is the least worst option when a lot of stuff needs to be carried.
The trailer can be left at holiday digs or padlocked to a tree at the camp site. So much more secure than cases and soft bags.

This makes the point

Can't understand why they haven't discovered these in India.
Think how many Cows, Mattresses and Relatives THAT would carry behind a Honda C50!! (No Racism intended!!).....

 

[Bendy toy]

I've cycle-toured many thousands of miles with a Bob Yak trailer.... They very much do mess up the handling!
They drag a lot; bounce off the smallest imperfections; push into bends., etc.
Just take less stuff!

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Bouncing about suggests the trailer wheel is over sprung and/or underdamped. But compared to carrying the same stuff ON the bike they are positively benign.

I use a twin wheel trailer (with the bicycle) for carrying small children. Every road bump kicks the back of the bike to one or other side. I don't get any push into bends, but its not safe to corner at any speed (tips over). A Bob style trailer would improve that issue.

 

[stanley]

A Bob Yak doesn't have suspension!
There's plenty of reasons why you only see the occasion trailer behind a motorcycle (usually a Goldwing). Mainly around it ruining the whole point of riding a bike: the fun, the freedom, the access they give you, etc.



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