Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - 12k service

skywalker said:
Eddy802 said:
Please don't shoot me for asking...

I commend those that take it upon themselves to do part or all of their servicing, but I have to question the validity of a dealers stamp against a service that hasn't wholly been carried out by a dealers technicians, even if the portion is considered non-skilled effort.

Whilst it seems those here that do this have the integrity to maintain their own records, surely the maint book should be annotated too?

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I absolutely agree, but surely its technically fraud if you get the stamp in your book no matter how much of the service you have done yourself.Unless you can prove otherwise your implying to the next owner of the vehicle that its been fully dealer serviced which it clearly hasn't

Your right - it should be noted in the record. I, for one, would pay more for a properly recorded owner serviced bike since I would be sure that it had been done by someone with an interest bin what they were doing. Indeed, I did just that with my last Honda.
 
Tobers said:
Took my GS12 into Vines today for its 12k service. I was expecting a bill of approx £250 plus VAT which they had led me to be the case.

So how much, in total, has it cost to service the bike to 24k miles?

Greg
 
Ok.........then, how many owners keep a copy of all their service invoices to go along with their 'stamped' up service book.

Surely this is the best proof to subsequent owners, that all the work has been carried out and what parts have been replaced.............but how many check and just trust the service book and it's stamps.

Or if the invoices are missing...........maybe get a printout from the BMW computer to prove exactly what's been done
 
re abs/servo servicing costs/complications

Thanks for reminding me why i got the non abs/uncomplicated version

PS no disrespect - but if your buying a bike with a fully stamped up dealer service book then you should expect just that, any variences should be recorded etc etc :)
 
I just checked the bill for the 6000 service on the Triumph and it did say "oil and filter change already done". On selling the bike, I would happily tell people this as well and show them the bills. I can't speak for others though.:D

Bob
 
There seems to be a general acceptance here of a very high service charge. Why? How can BMW justify charging more for servicing a 2 cylinder air cooled bike than they do for a 4 cylinder water cooled BMW car? The bike doesnt have air con. It doesnt have an auto box as my car has. It has half as many brakes / wheels/shocks etc.

So why does it cost more? And for those who arent familiar with BMW car service costs, my car at 23k miles has so far cost £90 in service in total. And a surprising nil for tyres.
 
I'm glad my comment seems taken as intended and has stirred some interesting debate, without causing offence.


But still no volunteers to do my oil?!

:rolleyes:
:D
 
Back to the point briefly, and to reply to Greg's post, this was the 12k service, not the 24k service, the bike having covered 12k miles so far. Not sure where the 24k thing came in. Somewhere between hygro and hydro I think.

Anyway, free 1st service, £200 6k service and £412 12k service.
 
Guildford is an expensive place ... My bike has so far cost me:

1st service: free
6k miles: £75 + £25 for oil+filter
12k miles: £95 + £35 for oil+filter+air filter

total £230 compared to tobers' £600
 
Oh by the way - the service schedule says the brake fluid change is annual, not based on mileage. So I'm guessing Tobers' bike is about a year old, therefore it was due for the first fluid change. The fluid change in the control circuit is due every 2 years. This supports what the article linked earlier said about fluid circulating in ABS systems.

My bike is 8 months old, hence part of the reason for my lower 12k service bill.

That and the fact that it's grim oop north :D
 
Tobers said:
Anyway, free 1st service, £200 6k service and £412 12k service.

5.1p per mile for servicing!

By the time you've added fuel, tyres, togs and essential toys, I'd bet that the Motorail is cheaper!

:eek:

Greg
 
Ah - the keys on the keyboard keep mibong abuur....ggrngg

Yes, it is a year old hence the brake thing.
 
Sorry to hear about all the BMW service rip offs, it seems they are taking advantage of mechanical virgins.

I can think of hardly any service work which could not be tackled by many owners, including brake bleeding of the abs system. I bought a pneumatic bleeder 20 yonks ago and it works fine on super duper car abs systems. It just needs 10bar air from my modest garage compressor, and sucks the bubbles, along with all the crud, out of any circuit in 10-15 seconds

A good set of suitable tools and a manual could be bought for £400 and you then have the satisfaction of knowing it was done correctly. Not always guaranteed down at your local dealer.

Incidentally, does Haynes or someone do a manual for current or earlier GS and is it any use? From what I have read the BMW cd seems a bit short on detail?

Terry
 
If you're trading the bike in, it doesn't normally matter....nobody inspects your service book to the nth degree - infact I lost my last one.

I wouldn't mind telling a private buyer I've done the oil myself, what's the big deal?? I also fill it with petrol and put air in the tyres.
 
TerryM said:
Sorry to hear about all the BMW service rip offs, it seems they are taking advantage of mechanical virgins.

I can think of hardly any service work which could not be tackled by many owners, including brake bleeding of the abs system. I bought a pneumatic bleeder 20 yonks ago and it works fine on super duper car abs systems. It just needs 10bar air from my modest garage compressor, and sucks the bubbles, along with all the crud, out of any circuit in 10-15 seconds

A good set of suitable tools and a manual could be bought for £400 and you then have the satisfaction of knowing it was done correctly. Not always guaranteed down at your local dealer.

Incidentally, does Haynes or someone do a manual for current or earlier GS and is it any use? From what I have read the BMW cd seems a bit short on detail?

Terry
Your obviously familiar with the latest bikes & ABS systems as well Terry.
Please refrain from tarring everyone with the same brush as regards servicing standards.there are some time served guys out there who are more than capable.
Servicing costs do varey depending on where you live -higher prices down south usually due to the cost of everthing will oop north its usually cheaper.
 
TerryM said:
Sorry to hear about all the BMW service rip offs, it seems they are taking advantage of mechanical virgins.

I can think of hardly any service work which could not be tackled by many owners, including brake bleeding of the abs system. I bought a pneumatic bleeder 20 yonks ago and it works fine on super duper car abs systems. It just needs 10bar air from my modest garage compressor, and sucks the bubbles, along with all the crud, out of any circuit in 10-15 seconds

A good set of suitable tools and a manual could be bought for £400 and you then have the satisfaction of knowing it was done correctly. Not always guaranteed down at your local dealer.

Incidentally, does Haynes or someone do a manual for current or earlier GS and is it any use? From what I have read the BMW cd seems a bit short on detail?

Terry


Yawn Yawn.........
There's always someboby who takes an opportunity to blow their own trumpet and piss on the average competent DIY mechanics parade, ostentatious?? yeap you win first prize

:P :P
 


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