Have you ever?

[Engineer]

Actually when I hooked my GS911 up yesterday for the first time , in one of the function checks there are " check clutch switch 1" and "check clutch switch 2". I don't know but just assumed these switches are for preventing the bike from starting in gear with the clutch out, and disengaging cruise control when the clutch is pulled in.

Ahhh so my information was correct, it all makes sense now - good to have an intelligent objective reply for a change, thanks.

The switches are for controlling the engine at low speed to prevent stalling as I and at least one other suspected - I reckon this is connected to the latest firmware update to fix the occasional cutting out when changing down at low speed approaching junctions.

PS, The switches could be used for more than one purpose as you point out.

 

[DING-DONG]

PS, The switches could be used for more than one purpose as you point out.

Yeah they have several other purposes, they work with the quickshifter / side stand switch / cruise control and the 1st rocker switch allows deactivation of cruise when you pull lever in couple mm .

As you stated one switch works on a couple mm pull and the other switch is operated when lever pulled full in.

 

[Nutty]

I've bookmarked this thread for when I can't get to sleep later.

 

[Engineer]

I've bookmarked this thread for when I can't get to sleep later.

The Hilltop threads are better for that, they are far more controversial

 

[rdover]

Not new is an understatement.

Landrover Defenders, those bastions of new technology and future proofed designs, have had this feature since the TD5 in 1998 - its called anti-stall and whilst it works entirely by fly-by-wire the concept is the same.

My 103 year old car has something very similar: a huge, heavy flywheel. I can get the revs down to under 100rpm (yes, one hundred revs per minute) in 4th gear and it will pick up again. To be fair, this was the only way of making sure the fecker would keep going up hills - when you've only got 12hp, you need every trick you can find!

 

[(RIP) Mark H]

When I was trickling along two up filtering though traffic Monday, I found I could do all that simply by working the throttle / clutch on my R1100, fly by cable

 

[Engineer]

When I was trickling along two up filtering though traffic Monday, I found I could do all that simply by working the throttle / clutch on my R1100, fly by cable

We all do that if we need a bit throttle - but this two switch/anti-stall thing is new to the GS since the arrival of the of the LC as far as I can tell, never noticed it on my twin cam or my original 2005 GS. The fact that a firmware update came out to change its behaviour apparently to reduce the chance of the slowing down engine cut-out issue reported by some people - my 2015 bike did it to me once but hasn't done it since the update - needs more miles to convince me totally but time will tell.

 

[(RIP) Mark H]

We all do that if we need a bit throttle - but this two switch/anti-stall thing is new to the GS since the arrival of the of the LC as far as I can tell, never noticed it on my twin cam or my original 2005 GS. The fact that a firmware update came out to change its behaviour apparently to reduce the chance of the slowing down engine cut-out issue reported by some people - my 2015 bike did it to me once but hasn't done it since the update - needs more miles to convince me totally but time will tell.

Whoosh,

 

[Engineer]

Whoosh,

The sound heard by an 1100 rider as an LC overtakes and disappears into the distance

 

[(RIP) Mark H]

The sound heard by an 1100 rider as an LC overtakes and disappears into the distance

yeah right

 

[(RIP) Tunneruk]

The sound heard by an 1100 rider as an LC overtakes and disappears into the distance

More like the sound of the pound notes flying past due to the depreciation compared to an 1100!!

(and I don't even own an 1100 )

 

[Whele]

That all makes sense now - clever stuff, but kinda assumes that people can't use the throttle properly and need a bit of help but I guess that with all this computer assistance then BMW can optimise the fuelling even at very low engine speeds and compensate by tweaking the throttle just enough to keep everything running.

Err yes.

I can hear the conversation now.........

"Hey Hans zey kant use the throttle correctly" - "I know volfgang, ve give dem traction control" ££££££££££ (sound of rubbing hands), "Hey Hans zey kant cant use the brakes correctly" - " I know volfgang, lets give dem ABS" ££££££££££ (more hand rubbing). "mmm now what Hans"? "vell Volfgang zey kant use the gear change correctly - so ve give dem gears dat zey just stamp on" "und der clutch Hans, wat about der clutch "? ve can even make ze throttle blip and der clutch ist nicht function". "Wow Hans Frau Merkel vill gibt us so much luuuvv"

 

[Titto]

I think people can use the throttle engineer. You assume everyone has it wrong bar yourself.
The bike can cut out on downshifts when trying to add some revs, it just dies. Its well documented by many on here, it's even happened to you has it not?
Its been suggested the bikes fuelling is just too lean, I dont have a clue about that but glad bmw are looking at it.

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[Engineer]

I think people can use the throttle engineer. You assume everyone has it wrong bar yourself.
The bike can cut out on downshifts when trying to add some revs, it just dies. Its well documented by many on here, it's even happened to you has it not?
Its been suggested the bikes fuelling is just too lean, I dont have a clue about that but glad bmw are looking at it.

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You assume that I assume, I don't, my original post was just an observation and I wondered if anyone else had noticed this new feature on the LC when compared to the previous 1200s. It seems to have been side tracked by the normal nonsense and confusion that is typical of Internet forums. The firmware up date that I had was allegedly to tweak the engine control unit to reduce the chance of this slowing down stall issue, I guess my dealer could have been misinformed but I have no reason to believe that was the case.

All the nonsense about running lean is just that, bikes run lean for all sorts of good reasons at various operating points.