Fuck um Damion.
Great thread.

Great thread.
The lever wants to be down.![]()
Down is for 2-up or heavily loaded.![]()

Right, I'moff to mumsnet for some sensible answers.![]()






Had a 2004 1200GS from new.
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Had a 2004 1200GS from new.
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I have a 2012 from new. Every Tom, Dick and Harry was flashing their lights at me. Cars in front were covering their rear view mirror. A colleague at work asked if my h/lamp aim was out.
"I dunno, just bought it"!
Flipped the switch 'down' , no more angry flashy lights.
Test: Light beam is lower on a garage door with the lever flipped down.

Fair play but the majority of things I've found useful on here are not in the handbook.
Internet behavior doesn't need analyzing its just observation and classification. You're correct I've never met these people, that I know of, so I judge solely on their behavior.
How many times does someone need act like a twat before I can safely classify them as such?
How many times do rapist rape before you can call them rapists or murderers murder?
I mean, what.. did his fingers slip and by pure accident he managed to compose a coherent..ish sentence that was abusive? Is there some kind of misunderstanding...
....nope, seems clear enough.
Now, I noticed you didn't jump on this little piece of analysis but then IJGser shows the same thirst to abuse that I've seen others on here display. Group think, I think, they call it; your oblivious to how appalling your behavior can be at times because it has become the norm.....
You might want to read up on Cognitive Dissonance Theory it explains some of the mental conflicts that come about when ones belief systems are challenged and how that conflict is made manifest by a tendency create illusional constructs to normalize their behavior.
...but this is not the norm is it? I mean you wouldn’t behave like this in the street? This is really an illusory construct; one designed to provide some posters with an environment where there abusive tendencies, tendencies that have probably been buried for years, can be vented which, in itself, is pretty harmless.
Apart from, and this is the important bit, abusive behavior is not normal and no amount of shouting at and attempting to belittle will make it so.
In summary, some people use internet forums to vent but most people don’t and don't want to be vented at. The second are normal functioning human beings the first are trying to be.
I think...
Oh...and I'm not even starting on Fanum's post as there's no challenge in that one.
Damion

Is this crap still going?
Chap asks an easy to answer question and days on the piss is still boiling.
Look at yourselves.
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Is this crap still going?
Chap asks an easy to answer question and days on the piss is still boiling.
Look at yourselves.
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It's Sunday & it's raining![]()
Well, I've had my day out on the bike, end of season run over the Grossglockner, and I'm bored now! Anyway I predicted 15 pages so I have to do my bit.
John
You should leave classification to the Americans, that's why they have brought out DSM 5. So that people can have a name to hang on whatever the suffer from, or are told they suffer from. The whole reason behind this is that unless "it" has a name, an "ism" for instance, people cannot get their insurance to pay out so that they can get so call treatment.
In addition to Cognitive dissidence, you might like to look a Fragile Process, also a theory, which means it's not set in concrete and is open to interpretation. Both are labels and people don't need labels, they need understanding
And in any case you are not judging "solely on their behaviour" You are judging solely on your perception of their behaviour which is an entirely different matter. And classifying them as a twat, only makes them so in your mind, something which another contributor tried to bring to your attention but which appears to have gone over your head.
John

From that I judge you to be a jammy bastard. Only done it once at the end of a trip up from Croatia so not really is a state to appreciate it properly, will do it again one day.
In that case come and stay here, I sure we would have plenty to talk about!
John
