Hex EzCan connecting to factory parts

[We Make Life A Ride]

Hey all,

Just purchased a gen 1 ezcan from another forum member, for 50 quid it seemed like it was worth a punt. But as per usual for me, I didnt really plan ahead!

Now firstly apologies as have been searching this forum all morning and internet too but cant find any reference to the following and I'd be amazed if it hasn't already been covered here so apologies again as I have no doubt not looked hard enough!!!

1. Gen 1 vs Gen 2 - what's the differences, except one is silver and 2 is black
2. is it possible to just conect it to factory kit, specifically the horn, spots and rear brake? if so how, do wires need cutting and the like?

I'll probably invest in a decent set of extra aux lights at some point, as well as an aux brake and a soundbomb but just want to have a play with the unit for now.

As always thanks for your thoughts idea etc

 

[Santa-2512]

There are 4 types of the Hexezcan

MK1 & Mk 2 2004-2012/13 Hexhead / TC

Mk1 & Mk2 2013- LC

If i recall the hexhead units arn't compatible with the lC units

If you pop over to Hex's website and read the Manstructions (God forbid) all is explained

How to wire / connect

How to test and configure

 

[We Make Life A Ride]

Yeah I've looked at those instructions, and suspect I am missing the obvious, but neither of my questions are answered.

They talk about config and install, that's relatively easy. But I want to know if/how I can connect to the factory fitted spot lights and horn. And what the difference is between gen 1 and gen 2 - I'm guessing the spec is better but I cant see a 'vs' listed anywhere.

 

[casbar]

gen 2 allows different config options. For instance I have after market spots, gen 1 you could switch off your spots when indicating so the spots don’t wash out the indicators, but both spots go off. Gen 2 only the spot on the side of the indicator dims and the other stays on. There are other differences such as any circuit can be used for anything, gen 1 you were tied to using set circuits. Now onto your second question, the purpose of the Hex or Cansmart is to connect and control accessories and link them into the canbus. Such as extra spots, horn, brake lights, running cameras, heated gear etc. It is not meant to control the kit that is already on the bike. The only way you could control your normal spots, is to run wires direct to the hex.

 

[Santa-2512]

OK, lets talk you through it ..

What bike have you got ( and dont say a gs or gsa!! ) hexhead or watercooled

What was the hex unit from hex or LC

Lets go with LC

Gen 1

I believe had Speedfit 2 wire plugs on the 4 trigger wires Gen 2 has 3 wire Denali style plugs

Gen 2 had horn trigger wire to tap into exsisting horn connector - Gen 1 i didnt

Wiring up

It is an accessory manager than runs via can bus -

So if you fit an additional tail light - it can control it

Additional spot lights - It can control it

New Air horn ( sound bomb) it will control it

Heated gear, it will control it.

It will not control OEM factory fitted equipment - only accessories

It will give you braking flash and decel flash if you want ( later LC's had emergency brake flash coded into the oem ECU by default)

So if you add an additional set of spots, you can run each individually as a circuit ie LH lamp blue circuit / RH lamp Red circuit

Then you can code the LH lamp to turn off when you hit the LH indicator - and likewise the RH

You can have them strobe if you flash your mainbeam , alter the brightness via the Wonder wheel

My set up was

Front spots on one circuit
Soundbomb horn on another circuit
Additional brakelight on another circuit

if you need any further info post it up

 

[We Make Life A Ride]

Yeah thanks both, appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. that's starting to make a bit more sense to me now. So for what I want it to do (everntually) I can make use of it - that's good news.

I guess a couple of questions:

- if it isn't designed to control existing equipment does that mean when you indicate (as an example) you can have the extra set of spots you've fitted turn off but not he factory fit ones if you leave them on too. Same for the horn. If I fit a soundbomb the old horn acts normally as if I had not fitted the ezan?

- And also, I read in another forum that turning on heated grips can also turn on a heated jacket. Now that sounds neat. Wonder if that is possible with Gen 1.

why switch connectors to suit Denalli? assuming it made sense as lots of people use denalli as it is such good kit or do denali use a more generic connector that other manufacturers also use?

Btw I have a 1250and the unit came form a 1200 LC

 

[Santa-2512]

Yeah thanks both, appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. that's starting to make a bit more sense to me now. So for what I want it to do (everntually) I can make use of it - that's good news.

I guess a couple of questions:

- if it isn't designed to control existing equipment does that mean when you indicate (as an example) you can have the extra set of spots you've fitted turn off but not he factory fit ones if you leave them on too. Same for the horn. If I fit a soundbomb the old horn acts normally as if I had not fitted the ezan?

- And also, I read in another forum that turning on heated grips can also turn on a heated jacket. Now that sounds neat. Wonder if that is possible with Gen 1.

why switch connectors to suit Denalli? assuming it made sense as lots of people use denalli as it is such good kit or do denali use a more generic connector that other manufacturers also use?

Btw I have a 1250and the unit came form a 1200 LC

When i've finished playing with petrol and naplam in the garden, i'll drop you a pm and run you through setting it up

 

[We Make Life A Ride]

When i've finished playing with petrol and naplam in the garden, i'll drop you a pm and run you through setting it up

Sounds like fun!

Amazing, thank you.

 

[casbar]

Yeah thanks both, appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. that's starting to make a bit more sense to me now. So for what I want it to do (everntually) I can make use of it - that's good news.

I guess a couple of questions:

- if it isn't designed to control existing equipment does that mean when you indicate (as an example) you can have the extra set of spots you've fitted turn off but not he factory fit ones if you leave them on too. Same for the horn. If I fit a soundbomb the old horn acts normally as if I had not fitted the ezan?

- And also, I read in another forum that turning on heated grips can also turn on a heated jacket. Now that sounds neat. Wonder if that is possible with Gen 1.

why switch connectors to suit Denalli? assuming it made sense as lots of people use denalli as it is such good kit or do denali use a more generic connector that other manufacturers also use?

Btw I have a 1250and the unit came form a 1200 LC

The Hex will not dim the factory fitted aux lights only lights running from the Hex or Cansmart. The Gen 2 can run heated gear, but not the gen1, (well it won't control via wonder wheel). Personally I would run heated gear direct from the battery anyway, but it is ok if you only have one piece of kit, but if you have say a jacket and gloves, then depending on the make, it can not control different heat for jacket and gloves. In my case, I have Garbing, so have controllers on the gloves and a controller for the jacket, if it was connected to the Hex or cansmart then power would be reduced to the controller and not allow full power to the lead that goes to the gloves (if that makes sense) You can ignore the connectors if you wish and just splice directly to the wires if you don't have Denali kit.

 

[knutk]

I suspect OP wonders wheter the Hex will be able to do tricks with the horn, stoplight and AUX lights whithout doing anything with the wiring to the mentioned items.
And the short answer is 'No...Not can do'...

However, both horn, stoplights and auxlights may be controlled through regular voltages, power on and off by adding/removing +12V or GND to the respective item. But, then the item has to be disconnected from the regular wiring harness.

There are allready several threads in this forum covering such action, so using the search funtion will give access to details regarding each item.