HID Conversion Kits 55 Watt 6000k for 800 GS 1150 GS & A & 1200 GS & A plus RT and GT

I've just bought a new gs1200. If I have this kit fitted will it affect the manufacturer warranty?:confused:
 
david.jackson said:
I've just bought a new gs1200. If I have this kit fitted will it affect the manufacturer warranty?:confused:
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Hi David,

The best answer I can give is the same as before. Others might have more info than I! but all i can say is that we have fitted hundreds of kits to new bikes and as yet have had no warrenty issues reported back to us? You could ask your dealer?

Best Regards

Mick
 
Grey Beard said:
Hi RS6

I live in Gemany and was interested in upgrading all 4 lights on my Adventure bike. Physically easy, but I checked on the legality of this and basically in Germany, it is difficult.

The TÜV (inspection centre) do the test every 2 years and must follow the German Law on bike modifications, etc. They are staffed by Professional Auto Engineers, (not mechanics). I had some discussions with them and was told:

Only one Xenon Gas Discharge Lamp is allowed (governed by the total amount of light output in lumens)

The only easy solution is to buy a long distance spot lamp with Xenon lamp (Touratech, etc.) already fitted and certified with an E number (E4 for Germany). I would have to remove one of the fitted fog lamps as only four main lamps are allowed.

In principle I could fit one Xenon lamp bulb to one of the fogs, but since the fogs could be on with the spot lamp, this would limit me to one Xenon again. Fog lamps are not available E certified for Germany with Xenon lamps.

I would have to have a special E4 number on the glass of my dipped or hi beam lights if they were to be legal with Xenons. That would mean a new lamp fitting from BMW, which is not available at present. Of course the K1300GT and the new K1600GT BMWs have the option of factory fitted Xenons.

I could of course refit the standard H7 and H11 halogen bulbs prior to the TÜV test, but the police here do actually prosecute road users for non certified modifications. In fact I was told that a couple of days before my conversation with the TÜV Centre, that the police had fined a biker €80 for using an uncertified Xenon gas discharge lamp. The biker was also able to collect one point on his licence. (It is a standard offence so it is €80 whether you have one or four Xenons fitted. Also you start with 18 points avaialble on a licence, not 12 as in the UK). A lot of police do drive bikes in their leisure time so would understand the safety benefits.

Touratech said they would have a certified LED parking type light bulb for the head lamp assembly some time in 2011.

TÜV are sympathetic to the safety issues of Xenons on bikes, but rules are rules!! Police are more anal about this and enforce the law.

Don't know if there are any moves to change the law, but at present, Xenons seem to court trouble in Germany, given that they will stand out like a sore thumb when in use.

The TÜV engineer did mention self levelling lights (but nothing about wipers), but when I said the bike had the electronic suspension option, he said that would be OK. Doesn't sound quite right to me. My wife once brought a used Fiesta from Ireland to Germany for a few months and the question of self levelling headlights was raised, but waived as it was a 'temporary' import.

Sounds a bit stupid not to allow Xenons (especially as cars can have them), but the law/manufacturers seems to be lagging the times somewhat.

In theory, I could ask the TÜV centre specialist engineer to certify any modification I had had done to the bike, but that would be expensive and I would in any event run into the lumen output limit.

I would have thought the laws governing these Xenons would be universally applied across the whole of the EU, but enforcement is obviously variable. e.g. the bike driving test in the UK had the infamous swerve tests made mandatory just over a year ago, whereas the swerve tests have been mandatory in Germany for several years. It is all to do with harmonisation.

Grey Beard
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Grey Beard – I am not disputing your comments, but I would like to present a different perspective.

I have a 2006 German KTM 990. I fitted it with HID high Beam and dipped headlight two years ago. In the last two years I have covered 12,000km in Germany (all areas, but mainly central and southern areas) without any issues with the German Police or with the engineer when I took the bike for the TÜV test last autumn.

Nobody has even commented about the light being different from standard. I have 35watt lamps fitted, so maybe the brightness in not so extreme or maybe Southern Germany (Biberach an der Riss) are more laid back on these matters.

I did not however highlight (pun intended) to the TÜV engineer that the headlight had been modified. He simply performed the examination and checked the alignment and issued the certificate with no comment whatsoever. Like I say, it maybe regional difference or it maybe that you walked in and asked the engineer, I guess he had little option other than quote the regulations.

Finally, Mitsubishi’s flagship Lancer Evolution 8 and 9, it has HID dip beam and headlights fitted as standard. No self leveling suspension, no headlamp washers – passed TUV and MOT test without any questions. Porsche 911 GT3 RS, HID lights no washers fitted and no self leveling suspension. If the regulations forbid the use of these vehicles I don’t understand how they get type approval in Europe or the UK.
 
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New Mk4 kits with ALL black wires from bulb and ballast coming soon!
 

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Hi Mick,
Just to let you know I collected my order from the Post Office today. It actually got here yesterday but I wasn't home....doh!...and with my free LED sidelight too!!
Thanks for the prompt posting
I will let you know when I've fitted them.
 
Sp4nky said:
Hi Mick,
Just to let you know I collected my order from the Post Office today. It actually got here yesterday but I wasn't home....doh!...and with my free LED sidelight too!!
Thanks for the prompt posting
I will let you know when I've fitted them.
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Good news! :thumb
 
MotorbikeAdventures said:
New Mk4 kits with ALL black wires from bulb and ballast coming soon!
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Looks like the one you sent me. Picked it up from the post office this morning. Thanks. :thumb2

I'm guessing that the extra weiring is for bikes without the H4 bulb already installed?

Am I correct in thinking I simply find a home for the ballast and weiring. Then simply plug the H4 bulb 3 spade plug (looks like the back end of the OE bulb) into the original socket and hey presto it works... Yes???

Or will I melt down all the electrics of the bike? (R100GS).


Val.
 
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VAL. H. said:
Looks like the one you sent me. Picked it up from the post office this morning. Thanks. :thumb2

I'm guessing that the extra weiring is for bikes without the H4 bulb already installed?

Am I correct in thinking I simply find a home for the ballast and weiring. Then simply plug the H4 bulb 3 spade plug (looks like the back end of the OE bulb) into the original socket and hey presto it works... Yes???

Or will I melt down all the electrics of the bike? (R100GS).


Val.
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Hi Val,

Glad you got the kit ok! I put the extra loom in the box just in case you wanted to power it from the Batt, but it is also ready to just plug and play, so should be an easy fit! If you want to use the relay you can but i have found BMs are happy to plug and play from the box!

Just find a place to hide the balack ballast and away you go. Any problems just give me a call and if the bulb is too long or somthing wont fit then just send it back for a full refund. Good Luch! :thumb2

Regards

Mick
 
Hi Mick........fitted my HID's (main & dip) and my free LED this morning. The whole job took a couple of hours, but that was with taking my time and treble checking everything plus the odd cuppa....so I would say a more competent person could do it in about an hour or less.
Everything works perfectly.
I'm a very happy man.
Once again many thanks for your service and help.
 
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Sp4nky said:
Hi Mick........fitted my HID's (main & dip) and my free LED this morning. The whole job took a couple of hours, but that was with taking my time and treble checking everything plus the odd cuppa....so I would say a more competent person could do it in about an hour or less.
Everything works perfectly.
I'm a very happy man.
Once again many thanks for your service and help.
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Sounds like a job well done! Glad you like everything and that everything works as it should. Thanks again for the business and ride safe! :thumb2

Regards

Mick :beerjug:
 
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