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Has anybody who services their own Bike taken it to the Dealers for a firmware update? Cost, whats the going rate? Mines going in for the Fork recall and was going to ask them to check for updates


Cheers

Steve
 
skid06 said:
Has anybody who services their own Bike taken it to the Dealers for a firmware update? Cost, whats the going rate? Mines going in for the Fork recall and was going to ask them to check for updates


Cheers

Steve
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Is it under warranty...........
 
Last time i went to a dealer for a diagnostic read, it was 15 mins labour to read a fault code!

budget a minimum of 1hr labour +vat
 
Be careful, when the firmware update is done sometimes it can take up to 3 hours plus to be done if it does not take first time.

Whilst it is ongoing the bike will be taking up a ramp and a computer link so you will end up with the bill.

Normally if the bike is being dealer serviced the updates and the time they take are FOC and included within the service cost
 
Smogbob said:
Is it under warranty...........
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No..its a 15 Bike, might be as well to pay for a service, as the Valve clearances are ready for a check and get Diagnostic and Firmware as part of the Service
 
Smogbob said:
Ok then as said, might take 3 hours
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.................... yep but if it done at the time of the service you don't pay for the update time (however long or how many attempts it takes ) only the time the actual service takes
 
The only time it will take three hours is if the bike is fitted with the TFT and it's not updated properly so they have to start from scratch.

Even bikes that haven't been updated in a few years only take around 10 mins.
 
fredaroony said:
The only time it will take three hours is if the bike is fitted with the TFT and it's not updated properly so they have to start from scratch.

Even bikes that haven't been updated in a few years only take around 10 mins.
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Even better to know, no TFT for me, just plugged the GS-911 in the bike, it is like reading Chinese, god knows what firmware I have in the bike.

AutoScan Report
GS-911 version: 1807.2 Datapack version: 10.5
Serial Number: GS2 000 042
Firmware version: 0.253-0.157 Datapack version: 0.0
Registered to: Me
Date: 04/09/2018 Time: 21:04:53
Motorcycle Information
VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Mileage: 2999.0 km
Cluster date: 03 septembre 2018
Next service date: 09 mars 2019
Next service distance: 10975 km
Factory I-Level: K001-17-03-501
Actual I-Level: K001-17-03-501
XSAF
Controller: 0F8500
Serial Number: 0000400369
Manufacturer: Temic
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/21
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1024
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/21
Number of FW configurations: 5
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 1014
Firmware Version: 001.000.001
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 1013
Firmware Version: 001.001.002
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 1015
Firmware Version: 001.023.001
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 117D
Firmware Version: 001.023.001
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 1016
Firmware Version: 001.023.008


No fault codes found
XRDC
Controller: 0F8100
Serial Number: 1101701570
Manufacturer: Schrader
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/20
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1024
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 99/99/99
Number of FW configurations: 4
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 0B49
Firmware Version: 000.001.008
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 0CB1
Firmware Version: 000.002.025
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 0CB2
Firmware Version: 001.000.070
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 0B4B
Firmware Version: 000.005.004


No fault codes found
XBCL
Controller: 0F8A10
Serial Number: 5161135267
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/06
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1024
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/06
Number of FW configurations: 4
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 2A58
Firmware Version: 001.007.001
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 2A55
Firmware Version: 002.000.000
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 2A56
Firmware Version: 002.032.000
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 2A57
Firmware Version: 001.001.078


No fault codes found
XKOMBI50
Controller: 0F8850
Manufacturer: Continental Automotive
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/03/16
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1024
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/03/16
Number of FW configurations: 5
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 124E
Firmware Version: 000.004.000
Hardware Type (HWAP):
Firmware ID: 1A1D
Firmware Version: 255.255.255
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 124D
Firmware Version: 000.004.000
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 1250
Firmware Version: 000.007.001
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 124F
Firmware Version: 000.007.003


No fault codes found
XSLZ
Controller: 0F8600
Serial Number:
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/17
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1024
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 99/99/99
Number of FW configurations: 4
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 0BFA
Firmware Version: 003.001.000
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 0BFB
Firmware Version: 003.001.003
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 0BFD
Firmware Version: 003.005.006
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 0BFC
Firmware Version: 001.000.007


1 fault codes found:
80402B Preconditions for locking not fulfilled
The fault is not present now.
XABS
Controller: 0F8300
Serial Number: 6329801471
Manufacturer: Continental Automotive
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 16/08/18
Program Count: 0
Program Count Maximum: 1000
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 16/08/18
Number of FW configurations: 3
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 1299
Firmware Version: 000.004.000
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 1298
Firmware Version: 000.002.000
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 129A
Firmware Version: 004.000.001


No fault codes found
XBMSMP1
Controller: 0F8B10
Serial Number: 0170119351
Manufacturer: ArvinMeritor
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/04/12
Program Count: 1
Program Count Maximum: 60
Factory I-Level: K001-17-03-501
Actual I-Level: K001-17-03-501
Firmware Date (YY/MM/DD): 17/05/08
Number of FW configurations: 5
HW Electronics (HWEL):
Firmware ID: 24BE
Firmware Version: 002.000.000
Bootloader (BTLD):
Firmware ID: 3747
Firmware Version: 005.000.000
SW Memory Image (SWFL):
Firmware ID: 3054
Firmware Version: 010.000.001
Unknown Class:
Firmware ID: 3D6E
Firmware Version: 010.000.001
Coding Data (CAFD):
Firmware ID: 38E5
Firmware Version: 001.004.007
VIN model year: 2017


No fault codes found
 
Smogbob said:
Even better to know, no TFT for me, just plugged the GS-911 in the bike, it is like reading Chinese, god knows what firmware I have in the bike.
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K001-17-03-501 is 2017 firmware on your bike so not very old. I've updated bikes with 2013 firmware and they still only take 15 mins or so, if that.
 
fredaroony said:
K001-17-03-501 is 2017 firmware on your bike so not very old. I've updated bikes with 2013 firmware and they still only take 15 mins or so, if that.
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do you have to be a dealer to do the update?
 
When I had my forks done in beginning of june (-15 GSA), the dealer upgraded all systems without me asking for it. When I got the bike back it went like this: "Ok, now your bike is done. And, by the way, we upgraded all the systems for you as well. Order from BMW". Checking when I got home the software was now dated 05-18.

I suspect it has to do with installing the Euro-4 software to the engine for less emission, and for the newer BMS-X to work with Euro-4 the other systems need an update as well. I came to my understanding that BMW urged them to do it on all noen-Euro-4 bikes.

Surly this must be valid for all of Europe?
 
fredaroony said:
The only time it will take three hours is if the bike is fitted with the TFT and it's not updated properly so they have to start from scratch.

Even bikes that haven't been updated in a few years only take around 10 mins.
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Sorry but that is misleading it is a fairly regular thing where software uddates as part of the service package relating to everything from engine ecu, esa suspension to GSAP fail to take on the first attempt.
Regularly see in my dealer that bikes are on the ramps for a couple of hours and service staff will tell you that they regularly pick up problems on post service test rides following firmware updates and the bike has to have the updates reinstalled , or the owner will pick up on issues on their ride home and have to return.
On my 2018 bike it took 3 attempts to sort out the computer pro with software updates from the factory and on my old gsa on both the first and second annual services it failed to accept the firmware updates on the first attempt
 
Neil W said:
Sorry but that is misleading it is a fairly regular thing where software uddates as part of the service package relating to everything from engine ecu, esa suspension to GSAP fail to take on the first attempt.
Regularly see in my dealer that bikes are on the ramps for a couple of hours and service staff will tell you that they regularly pick up problems on post service test rides following firmware updates and the bike has to have the updates reinstalled , or the owner will pick up on issues on their ride home and have to return.
On my 2018 bike it took 3 attempts to sort out the computer pro with software updates from the factory and on my old gsa on both the first and second annual services it failed to accept the firmware updates on the first attempt
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Well you clearly know more than I do about it so good luck! :)
 
Neil W said:
Sorry but that is misleading it is a fairly regular thing where software uddates as part of the service package relating to everything from engine ecu, esa suspension to GSAP fail to take on the first attempt.
Regularly see in my dealer that bikes are on the ramps for a couple of hours and service staff will tell you that they regularly pick up problems on post service test rides following firmware updates and the bike has to have the updates reinstalled , or the owner will pick up on issues on their ride home and have to return.
On my 2018 bike it took 3 attempts to sort out the computer pro with software updates from the factory and on my old gsa on both the first and second annual services it failed to accept the firmware updates on the first attempt
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Think your garage should change their dial up internet for a modern optical fiber setup..........;)
 
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