More weight bollocks....... ffs!
It's not
Not when you're picking it up.............
Scales don't lie
The CRF250L looks ok, but I can't see how they get it to over 140kgs
Weight is more of a problem to novices too
Honda CRF250L versus the rest (WR250R)
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It's not
Not when you're picking it up.............
Scales don't lie
The CRF250L looks ok, but I can't see how they get it to over 140kgs
Weight is more of a problem to novices too
Nowt wrong with the ttrs bullet proof easy to work on even if you spent £500 on getting it right you would still get your money back after 12 months. Jurys out on the honda ps ttr will happily do a days green lanes then cruise at 60 although its bot the best on road!
More weight bollocks....... ffs!
I guess if we all lost 20kg from the waist line life would be easier
A good TTR250 FAQ site - http://www.ttr250.com/
Is right.
The bike is built properly, able to carry two adults. The weight is integrity. It will still be going whilst other stuff has fell apart.
And as I said earlier, shaving some of the bits off could save some weight if it bothers you.
You just keep an eye on advrider to see what the yanks will be doing with the CRF-L.......
Fair enough
I suppose the leccy start stuff & the pillion stuff accounts for a lot of the 20kgs
Funny why leccy start is seen as vital nowadays on a small dirt bike as in evolution terms we're losing the ability to kickstart even a small 125/250 cc 4T bike nowadays
Gonna have a look on adv rider now for the CRF250L stuff
vette
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.Yep, true
The CRF250L is a weighty beast at 144kg (is that wet?)
My XChallenge weighs 144kg dry + fuel and oil, comes in at 154kg - so only 10kg more for a 650cc
My XR250 is 109 kg dry and with fuel and oil is less than 120kg, so a 24kg weight penalty for the CRF250L is going some
The XR250 does sound good and light.
What were the production years?
Gra.
1984-1995 with rear drum and front disc. then the later ones had rear disc too and looked like a smaller XR600
Best ones were from 1996-2004, with oil in frame and looked the same as the XR400 (for easy reference)
Some 1996-2004 ones from the far eastern market had electric start
For 80/20 road/TRAIL riding not racing or bloody enduro, i think the CRF is a great option, i HAVE ridden one and it feel light and enough road manners / power to piss on a TTR250. IIRC 6-8k servicing and 2 years warranty (engine out of CBR250)
Build looks good and it looks great IMO, priced next to the Yam or KTM its a no brainer.
Had a couple of TTR's and rode one from Dagenham to the midlands via the M25 / M1 standard cogs they are dire on road and painfully slow if you are used to road bike speeds, offroad they are great.
the CRF is a better bike but obviously at a cost, just add up the price (and you seem to have got a good one) shave 20% off + a bit more for depreciation its worth £2500 to £2800 once you have left the show room, buy a fit TTR at the right price and it will hold that for a few years (inflation proof ?)
Anyway picking up heavy ? bikes in cold / muddy fields is character building and anything under 150 kgs is lightweight ya pussies. Back in the day i could clean my WR250F straight of the deck
now it would take me longer to get meself off the deck 
I think Honda are the only manufacturer to be going in the right direction with their bikes, looks/economy/price/fun, the others will follow soon enough
Build looks good and it looks great IMO, priced next to the Yam or KTM its a no brainer.
Had a couple of TTR's and rode one from Dagenham to the midlands via the M25 / M1 standard cogs they are dire on road and painfully slow if you are used to road bike speeds, offroad they are great.
the CRF is a better bike but obviously at a cost, just add up the price (and you seem to have got a good one) shave 20% off + a bit more for depreciation its worth £2500 to £2800 once you have left the show room, buy a fit TTR at the right price and it will hold that for a few years (inflation proof ?)
Anyway picking up heavy ? bikes in cold / muddy fields is character building and anything under 150 kgs is lightweight ya pussies. Back in the day i could clean my WR250F straight of the deck
now it would take me longer to get meself off the deck I think Honda are the only manufacturer to be going in the right direction with their bikes, looks/economy/price/fun, the others will follow soon enough
vette
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How about Kawasaki KLX250S, in a similar vein.................or a Yam XT250 Serow
Erm................Honda seem to be late to market, it would seem - on the 250cc trailbike front
The Yam WR250R and Kwack KLX250S have been around for a few years now
Erm................Honda seem to be late to market, it would seem - on the 250cc trailbike front
The Yam WR250R and Kwack KLX250S have been around for a few years now
Much difference in price ?
adyb
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One last option for consideration.....AJP 250 trail ?????? Anyone got any experience ?
This month's TBM (Trail Bike Magazine) has part 2 of the bike buyers guide which may be worth a look.
Although it may throw up more possible choices of course.
You will need last month's (January) TBM as well as the guide is in two parts.
MickyBlueyes
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I have to say I have a twitch in my wallet WRT the CRF250L.
I had an XR400 about 10 years ago and enjoyed it, but always wanted something slightly less focused & easier to start after I fell off.
I had a read of this which was helpful as the yanks already seem to have started on sorting the CRF250L's weakness's
http://www.dirtbikemagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=7D5CA9B9EB7447B4B933371B89BB148F
The kits are on sale, and there is feedback from a chap in the UK who thinks it's good stuff, but it is a suppliers website
http://bestdualsportbikes.com/dual-sport-bikes/2013-honda-crf250l
Rather than spending a packet on modding a crf250, a road legal version of the CRF450 sounds like a really nice idea. Is there any more info on this??
I had an XR400 about 10 years ago and enjoyed it, but always wanted something slightly less focused & easier to start after I fell off.
I had a read of this which was helpful as the yanks already seem to have started on sorting the CRF250L's weakness's
http://www.dirtbikemagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=7D5CA9B9EB7447B4B933371B89BB148F
The kits are on sale, and there is feedback from a chap in the UK who thinks it's good stuff, but it is a suppliers website
http://bestdualsportbikes.com/dual-sport-bikes/2013-honda-crf250l
Rather than spending a packet on modding a crf250, a road legal version of the CRF450 sounds like a really nice idea. Is there any more info on this??
where dat den ?
Sounds interesting, though i think it would have to go on a serious diet to appeal to me. At present the weight is to close to my XC to justify having a crf as a second bike.
adyb
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Well, at present I can have a new CRFL from the stealership for £3650 otr......and have a new bike, with a two year warranty.
There is also the option of a 2004 TTR showing 10,000 miles, uses a little oil, slightly bent risers, needs a bash plate but has a years MOT for £1200 from a known owner.....bears many battle scars but this is to be expected, and has also been geared down for better off road gearing, which caps the on road speed to around 50mph.
Head says go with the TTR and accept it needs a bit of work, but it will be a long flog to get to lanes and also for the odd bit of local road use, but it won't drop in price much.....it's just that I am no mechanic, so I could be regularly facing minor mechanical matters that need addressing...
heart says go new, I am not a full on rider on or off road, it will have a warranty, good battery, be straight and faster on road, I ply do light trails and never leave the ground !!!!
Today is ' make your mind up time' .........struggling.......old but well in budget bike which comes ith issues or brand new slightly over budget bike which will get scratched straight away......?
There is also the option of a 2004 TTR showing 10,000 miles, uses a little oil, slightly bent risers, needs a bash plate but has a years MOT for £1200 from a known owner.....bears many battle scars but this is to be expected, and has also been geared down for better off road gearing, which caps the on road speed to around 50mph.
Head says go with the TTR and accept it needs a bit of work, but it will be a long flog to get to lanes and also for the odd bit of local road use, but it won't drop in price much.....it's just that I am no mechanic, so I could be regularly facing minor mechanical matters that need addressing...
heart says go new, I am not a full on rider on or off road, it will have a warranty, good battery, be straight and faster on road, I ply do light trails and never leave the ground !!!!
Today is ' make your mind up time' .........struggling.......old but well in budget bike which comes ith issues or brand new slightly over budget bike which will get scratched straight away......?
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