How do you know if a used bike was ex-demo these days?

Geekay said:
The cars are "company cars" for employees

the bikes though.... i suspect most of them are press fleet - my GSA went to Monza with Bike Magazine for example!
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Some staff definitely take bikes too. One of the guys at the London Underground office I used to go to for design meetings had a new BMW bike every six months as his wife worked for BMW and received two perk vehicles as part of her contract
 
That’s not how sar’s work. SAR’s are to request information about living people. Unfortunately there is no legal requirement to provide information about objects such as motorbikes.
 
KrisL said:
That’s not how sar’s work. SAR’s are to request information about living people. Unfortunately there is no legal requirement to provide information about objects such as motorbikes.
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As I am the registered keeper, and a living person, I am entitled to any and all information held, stored or processed pertaining to me, it also covers paper not just electronic records.

If we followed your logic, then how does a parking company get information, from DVLA, relating to who the registered keeper is, after all it is only an object's details they have.

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Tractors are go said:
As I am the registered keeper, and a living person, I am entitled to any and all information held, stored or processed pertaining to me, it also covers paper not just electronic records.

If we followed your logic, then how does a parking company get information, from DVLA, relating to who the registered keeper is, after all it is only an object's details they have.

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Ok, to answer both questions. As the registered keeper, yes you can raise a SAR and you will receive personal information the dvla hold about you. They won’t tell you who owned the bike previously and what it was used for as that isn’t your personal data.


For your second question. The ICO class numberplates as personal information (i won’t go in to why.) in most cases, parking companies have a contract with people who park on their sites and they therefore can process the personal information using the lawful right to process of contractual basis.
 
I recently purchased an R1250 GS Exclusive from NOG, only 3 months old with 1000m on the clock, was told it was a BMW HQ workers bike who lives in Devon, is that you??, reg is OU!, it had to have all 4 indicators replaced due to being due to afore mentioned 'BM worker's' dog chewing on them, a spark plug cover and handguard also. On the ride home my right trouser leg got covered in oil due to a broken o ring. But the worse part and what makes suspicious of the 'BM worker' claim is that when I went to fit rad guards I found one the plastic surrounds broken, wrong screws on the screen bracket and screen, also the plastic nut/spacer thats under the headlight was missing and had a normal bolt, NOG have helped in replacing these parts but if a 'BM worker' was the previous owner, why add and change parts if he was only going to keep it 3 months?? and make so much of a balls up doing it??
 
Y7 JMM said:
I recently purchased an R1250 GS Exclusive from NOG, only 3 months old with 1000m on the clock, was told it was a BMW HQ workers bike who lives in Devon, is that you??, reg is OU!, it had to have all 4 indicators replaced due to being due to afore mentioned 'BM worker's' dog chewing on them, a spark plug cover and handguard also. On the ride home my right trouser leg got covered in oil due to a broken o ring. But the worse part and what makes suspicious of the 'BM worker' claim is that when I went to fit rad guards I found one the plastic surrounds broken, wrong screws on the screen bracket and screen, also the plastic nut/spacer thats under the headlight was missing and had a normal bolt, NOG have helped in replacing these parts but if a 'BM worker' was the previous owner, why add and change parts if he was only going to keep it 3 months?? and make so much of a balls up doing it??
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Sounds very dodgy to me. Another reason for not buying a second hand bike unless you know its history.
 
KrisL said:
Ok, to answer both questions. As the registered keeper, yes you can raise a SAR and you will receive personal information the dvla hold about you. They won’t tell you who owned the bike previously and what it was used for as that isn’t your personal data.


For your second question. The ICO class numberplates as personal information (i won’t go in to why.) in most cases, parking companies have a contract with people who park on their sites and they therefore can process the personal information using the lawful right to process of contractual basis.
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Any and all is the phrase; and as the keeper that's what my legal entitlement, I could also argue legitimately about data processing so that'd cover previous keepers.

As for the second bit, maybe down your way and the POFA does require the registered keeper to identify the driver, therefore there is a legitimate reason for providing keepers info. BUT in Scotland there is no statuatory requirement to do anything at all, therefore there is a breach of gdpr for providing any info about alleged contraventions within Scotland.

Interesting bit about regs, if you incorrectly put in XX 07 0FA OR XX O7 OFA both of which are clearly wrong, then to seek information on reg XX 07 OFA is based upon what ?

Especially as they send demands for payment when people transpose 0 and O

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Delboy777 said:
Another reason for not buying a second hand bike unless you know its history.
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Picked up my ex-demo 1250 around a month ago - a 1,000 miles later and no problems.

What am I doing wrong?
 
Mr Bean said:
Picked up my ex-demo 1250 around a month ago - a 1,000 miles later and no problems.

What am I doing wrong?
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Not a thing, its only a small percentage of bikes that are suffering this failure. You nearly always hear from tossers whose bike has lunched its engine, and rightly so. However there are very few (the majority) of the same tossers who post about their bike having no problems.


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Delboy777 said:
However there are very few (the majority) of the same tossers who post about their bike having no problems
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There are a few who seem to spend more time worrying if something's wrong (often with what appears to be no sound reason) than actually riding the bike...
 
Delboy777 said:
Sounds very dodgy to me. Another reason for not buying a second hand bike unless you know its history.
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The bike mechanically has been good, just got back from the Alps 5000km round trip and apart from the rear tyre rubbing on the mudslinger it was great!
 
Delboy777 said:
Not a thing, its only a small percentage of bikes that are suffering this failure. You nearly always hear from tossers whose bike has lunched its engine, and rightly so. However there are very few (the majority) of the same tossers who post about their bike having no problems.


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My bike hasn't had any problems :D
 
Mr Bean said:
There are a few who seem to spend more time worrying if something's wrong (often with what appears to be no sound reason) than actually riding the bike...
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3 year warranty, just ride it and the chances are it will never go wrong. If it does mr bmw will sort it for you. FOC


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