How does the Side Kicker work?

a solution to a problem i've not had since i sold my 1150 and bought a 1200 :confused:
 
The issue is that the stand is way too short so the bike leans over too much. Its a maul to haul upright on level ground. With even a slight LH slope its impossible to pull it upright. A new foot on a too short stand will do approximately nothing whatsoever to fix that!

The Side Kicker fixes the problem, but its silly money so I'm asking if anyone knows how the tube telescope locking system works.
 
Miff said:
Why not just fit a bigger foot on your stand? Search on here and there's loads of people who have done this.
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Do what I did to the 1150 and 1200, just cut up a bit of steel to the required size and tack it on the stand with a bit of braze. Lasted 87000 miles on the 1150 I used braze because it's so easy to remove red hot and pull it off. workls great and costs nought (probably bung the bloke £20 for the brazing).
 
Bendy toy said:
The issue is that the stand is way too short so the bike leans over too much. Its a maul to haul upright on level ground. With even a slight LH slope its impossible to pull it upright. A new foot on a too short stand will do approximately nothing whatsoever to fix that!

The Side Kicker fixes the problem, but its silly money so I'm asking if anyone knows how the tube telescope locking system works.
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How much:eek:

Just be careful not to park on a bad camber:blast
 
Bendy toy said:
The issue is that the stand is way too short so the bike leans over too much. Its a maul to haul upright on level ground. With even a slight LH slope its impossible to pull it upright. A new foot on a too short stand will do approximately nothing whatsoever to fix that!

The Side Kicker fixes the problem, but its silly money so I'm asking if anyone knows how the tube telescope locking system works.
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Park the bike the other side of the slope or at an angle to the slope :nenau

Most of the larger 'feet' you get for the stands are two plates that bolt together giving you the opportunity to pack them out a bit to help, as in reality, the stand on the 1200 is not too short and you wouldn't (shouldn't) need to add much to the height of the stand (you may need longer bolts?).

Andres
 
Thats the one. It solves my problem but I'm not prepared to pay £250 for a telescopic stand. So does anyone know how they get the sliding foot to lock and release?

As already said, adding a larger 1/8" thick plate under the stand foot will do absolutely nothing to fix the bike's crazy lean angle on any surface. And on a soft surface, it will just take a few seconds longer to sink in.

My Diversion 900 side stand is 50mm from the floor when bike is on its wheels. The bike leans enough to be safe. The GSA stand is al least 100mm from the floor so it leans way over and is a serious struggle to pull upright when sat on the bike.
 
Screw or glue on an ice hockey puck :thumb2 25mm thick, works perfect. I happen to have a spare if you want one ....

Stu.
 
Bendy toy said:
Thats the one. It solves my problem but I'm not prepared to pay £250 for a telescopic stand. So does anyone know how they get the sliding foot to lock and release?
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No, but at an educated guess, there will be a spring and a cam arrangement.......under pressure (IE when bike's weight is on it, the cam locks into its notch and it can't be retracted.

Release the pressure, the spring pushes the cam out of line and you can pull the inner tube up into the outer tube.

Making it and producing it will almost certainly cost you more than buying one from NN.

You are also trying to solve a basic problem win a really complicated way....sure, a wider footplate won't help, but most people (as already mentioned above) just go for the simple and easy and cheap options, like for example buying a £1.99 ice hockey puck, drilling a couple of holes in it and bolting it on with some recessed alan key bolts :nenau

My man in Morocco made me one from steel.....chappy in the next door shop welded it all up, then Big Moh even painted it for me........

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I'll have a look at the hockey puck idea, but I believe it needs at least 2 of them to sort the problem. I'll report back when done some proper measuring.
 
Bendy toy said:
I'll have a look at the hockey puck idea, but I believe it needs at least 2 of them to sort the problem. I'll report back when done some proper measuring.
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Put two on and there's a pretty good chance that you'll often leave the bike standing too upright.
 
..... remember that when laden the bike will sit down a little so don't over-do the extra side stand length!
 
Yep! Agree with all those, but even when loaded enough for my leg reach to be fine (normally its a stretch) the stand is still way too short. I guess this is why the Side Kicker came about.

I will look at a sliding extending stand option with a screw adjuster to lock the sliding length. That should be cheap to do but not as slick as the side kicker.

Its certainly not an easy fix.
 
is your original side stand mount bent or just really slack? just a thought, as i've not heard many people mention your problem.

i suppose if someone can sell a solution for £250 then there must be a big enough issue.
 
Bendy toy said:
Yep! Agree with all those, but even when loaded enough for my leg reach to be fine (normally its a stretch) the stand is still way too short. I guess this is why the Side Kicker came about.

I will look at a sliding extending stand option with a screw adjuster to lock the sliding length. That should be cheap to do but not as slick as the side kicker.

Its certainly not an easy fix.
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Sounds like a lot of faffing around each time you use the side stand IMHO, just a thought on the Hockey Puck, doesnt that foul on the exhaust when the stand is up??:nenau
 
I have one on my bike because I managed to bend the subframe where the side stand attaches to the frame. Despite a lot of grown ups trying to straighten it, it can't be done so with the standard side stand, it's almost impossible to lift the bike.

The rest of the subframe is nice and straight so it was all the hassle of a new subframe or a sidekicker.

The sidekicker does the job really well and it's a great piece of kit. The only think you have to watch is always retract the stand when it's up. If the bike is on it's centre stand and you have the kicker up, make sure it's not extended as it will get trapped behind the main stand when that it up. It's then impossible to use any stand when you come to a stop. It only happens once:augie

Good bit of kit though which really works if you want the stand extending:thumb
 
+1 for the sidekicker. works a treat & comes into its own when your fully loaded or as previously stated when on a camber.wouldn't be without now & its solidly built.:thumb2
 
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