HOW MANY WC GS OWNERS WILL BE GETTING THE ADVENTURE

When North Herts turns to desert and petrol stations are 300 miles apart I may move from my agile light weight GSWC.

The new GSA will be a big improvement to ride compared to the old one and it looks better in an Angela Merkel kind of way.
 
It DOES look good and even has a headlight protector:
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However, the selling point for me was the cockpit, the instrumentation and the general riding position. I immediately felt at home
It felt big enough and TALL enough to look after my 33 inch legs and 6ft 2" size and it made me smile as soon as I climbed aboard (shorter guy aboard is not me)
You can just make out the screen shape in the image below, but the general wide shape (I'll make the image wider to give you a feel), feels like you'll get the usual GSA wind protection, or better:
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(I am nearly ready to put a deposit down, but a more expensive,more powerful,BUT SMALLER MTS GTis tempting me)

(I didn't like the green, it is a matt finish and somehow felt unfinished, but my last GSA was white, so I'm based
I also didn't like the blue, you can just see the beak on the left middle photo, its NOT the same nice 'pretty' blue as on the LC)
 
I`ve ordered one

I`ve ordered one and I will be keeping my GS.

I keep on telling my Good Lady (that's a euphemism..........) that I need it coz the lads on the site will need tool boxes, crud catchers, farkles for it...........

And, damn their eyes, those Teutonic buggers have changed the design so I HAVE to have one so I can make the stuff for it. :bounce1

Sadly, though, I am running out of time and arses, the F800 Adv I bought a lifetime ago is still showing a very embarrassing 200 miles :(

Nonetheless I think the GSA will be a good bike for the lads who NEED a GSA :bow
 
I`ve ordered one and I will be keeping my GS.

I keep on telling my Good Lady (that's a euphemism..........) that I need it coz the lads on the site will need tool boxes, crud catchers, farkles for it...........

And, damn their eyes, those Teutonic buggers have changed the design so I HAVE to have one so I can make the stuff for it. :bounce1

Sadly, though, I am running out of time and arses, the F800 Adv I bought a lifetime ago is still showing a very embarrassing 200 miles :(

Nonetheless I think the GSA will be a good bike for the lads who NEED a GSA :bow

Why not sell the 800GSA on here then in that case. 200 miles is crazy. Couldn't the dealer just lend you a bike for 2-3 weeks while you develop all the farkles, then you give them a special rate on a job lot that they can sell? Must be a more cost effective way of doing it?
 
I won't buy it the GPS is off centre so that's done it for me. Also bike looks like a shark front on, mouth wide open ready to bite. Oh yeh another reason not to buy now the gearbox probably works like my LC box fantastic.
 
I had a good look at one today and thought it was very plasticky. Unfortunately it's quite flimsy feeling plastic :(

I'm thinking now that I may just buy a Nine-T instead and keep my 06 GSA rather than p/ex it in against a new WC GSA :thumby:

Two for the price of one :D
 
Why not sell the 800GSA on here then in that case. 200 miles is crazy. Couldn't the dealer just lend you a bike for 2-3 weeks while you develop all the farkles, then you give them a special rate on a job lot that they can sell? Must be a more cost effective way of doing it?

Hiya Nuts, and yes 200 miles is crazy but theres an exceptional reason here - I`ve been on crutches/off bikes for nearly three months :(

The 2-3 weeks suggestion has been tried but I`m always developing new parts so it doesn`t seem to help - not only that but because I can`t commit 24/7 to designing (I have a full on day job) I really do need a bike around all the time.

Also, if I didn`t have an LC kicking about I would not have been able to drop onto the hugger project for the lads as an example.

Anyway I appreciate the suggestion, I know its there simply to help me but I can`t take any short cuts if I want to do what I do. At least I don`t do other marques.........(for a while I had a CB1300 kicking about......)

And when I`m not on crutches I`m on a bike nearly every day :bounce1

Ride safely Nuts :beerjug:
 
Hiya Nuts, and yes 200 miles is crazy but theres an exceptional reason here - I`ve been on crutches/off bikes for nearly three months :(

The 2-3 weeks suggestion has been tried but I`m always developing new parts so it doesn`t seem to help - not only that but because I can`t commit 24/7 to designing (I have a full on day job) I really do need a bike around all the time.

Also, if I didn`t have an LC kicking about I would not have been able to drop onto the hugger project for the lads as an example.

Anyway I appreciate the suggestion, I know its there simply to help me but I can`t take any short cuts if I want to do what I do. At least I don`t do other marques.........(for a while I had a CB1300 kicking about......)

And when I`m not on crutches I`m on a bike nearly every day :bounce1

Ride safely Nuts :beerjug:

Oh yes, I forgot that you've been hobbling around.:blast:P At least you can buy the bikes through work, and get all the VAT off, and tax benefits.:beerjug::thumb
 
I've placed an order for a new GSA. If at this time you accept that I don't want active suspension and extra riding modes can anyone tell me why I should consider anything other than a 'base model'? The order I've placed is for a base with heated grips etc, etc. Even with all the bits it comes in under 14k. I've owned numerous GS's over the years and have never felt the need for more suspension or riding modes. The only argument I've heard so far is that it will be ultimately more sellable but I'm convinced in my own mind I don't need these options. Any convincing arguments against? Please, for the time being, ignore the options make the bike better line.

Paul
 
I've placed an order for a new GSA. If at this time you accept that I don't want active suspension and extra riding modes can anyone tell me why I should consider anything other than a 'base model'? The order I've placed is for a base with heated grips etc, etc. Even with all the bits it comes in under 14k. I've owned numerous GS's over the years and have never felt the need for more suspension or riding modes. The only argument I've heard so far is that it will be ultimately more sellable but I'm convinced in my own mind I don't need these options. Any convincing arguments against? Please, for the time being, ignore the options make the bike better line.

Paul

If you don't think you'll use the options, then resale is the only other thing to consider. Iirc about 80% of the LC's sold in the UK this year were TE (ie fully loaded) spec, and I imagine the proportion won't be hugely different for the GSA. If you're planning on trading out of the bike fairly quickly, then this might be a consideration. If on the other hand it's going to be a keeper then just order what you want. That all said, I do use the ESA and riding modes on my LC, so I'll get those again on the GSA.
 
I've placed an order for a new GSA. If at this time you accept that I don't want active suspension and extra riding modes can anyone tell me why I should consider anything other than a 'base model'? The order I've placed is for a base with heated grips etc, etc. Even with all the bits it comes in under 14k. I've owned numerous GS's over the years and have never felt the need for more suspension or riding modes. The only argument I've heard so far is that it will be ultimately more sellable but I'm convinced in my own mind I don't need these options. Any convincing arguments against? Please, for the time being, ignore the options make the bike better line.

Paul

As one of the few who bought a base model 1200GS rather than a TE this year - it all sounds sensible to me ;)

Any difference in resale value is certainly going to be less than the difference in the initial purchase price. Also there is always a market for simpler bikes with less to go wrong once out of warranty.

So buy the spec of bike you want rather than the spec BMW UK would like you to buy :thumb
 
As one of the few who bought a base model 1200GS rather than a TE this year - it all sounds sensible to me ;)

Any difference in resale value is certainly going to be less than the difference in the initial purchase price. Also there is always a market for simpler bikes with less to go wrong once out of warranty.

So buy the spec of bike you want rather than the spec BMW UK would like you to buy :thumb


Agree , I bought one of the last GSA's with the 2 grand freebees but in base spec , only ABS and Tyre pressure warning . Nice and simple , I plan to hang on to it but being a tart will look at the New GSA next year . I have had fully specced GSA's and it was the extra's that went wrong , admittedly in warranty , but simplicity does have in built peace of mind
 
I hated my 2005GS's lack of decent wind protection, I resorted to a larger screen and the best improvements were offered by the later invention of the winglets. That said, my subsequent GSA was nearly perfect, I say nearly, because, being 6ft 3", it was not quite perfect, but no way would I go back to a standard GS
Now look at the GSAWC, it looks very promising indeed for wind protection, as near to a faired bike as you can get, without having a fairing, (we all need to do motorways sometime)but won't be as good as the 'Trowel' but hey, it SHOULD be good:
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Got the WC in June. It's awesome! Be prepared for a shock and a totally new riding style. It scares the sh1t out of me in Dynamic mode.
Still have my 57 plate GS which is my first bike I bought 2.5 years ago when I passed my test at age 58!
No looking back!
 
Recognise any of these?
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After a little schoolboy colouring, I'm now off out into the garden .
 
Before anyone starts a new thread, 'Do I need a wider gate?', I'd suggest that the answer is NO.
 
I have a TE and use the Rain and Dynamic modes mainly, and also turn Traction and stability control off when I want to Hoon.

So personally I wouldn't buy a basic LC, but if I did I would want to know what the one and only setting is based on.

If it's the Dynamic mode then fine, I would have it, but if it is more like Road or Rain then I wouldn't touch it.

The modes are not just throttle settings that you can emulate by hand, they change the characteristics of the bike, so you need to be sure you like the characteristic that is selected for you.
 
To follow up my original post about pro's and cons of a 'basic' over 'plus modes' I've ordered a basic model with ASC but not the extra riding modes. The base model has two modes as standard by the way; Rain and Road. I took a R1200GS TE out for a test ride before making my decision. I felt my style of riding didn't require the Dynamic or Enduro modes but I kinda liked the suspension settings especially the ability to change preload depending on load. I know twirling the old 'knob' is no hardship, for example when you unload the panniers etc but coupled with the damping changes it did make sense. A base GSA with options such as heated grips, ASC, LED indicators, GPS prepared and Enduro seat ( I'm sure there was something else) still came in under the cost of the next model up, the XE, which had stuff I definately didn't need or want.

Paul.
 


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