How to follow 'tracks' on a 2610??

[BLUE(UK)]

Any idea??
I want to use my 2610 for minor off road route planning which must be down as a 'track' since a route just reverts back to the road.

Once i have the 'track' onto the GPS,how do i get it to lead me around the route or at least show it so i can follow it.(i'd like turn by turn directions if possible).

I'd also like to know how to save a 'track' and follow it afterwards at a later date(this would be a good function to use).I know one can save a 'route'.
Maybe i am just a bit thick and cant see how it happens!!

Any ideas most welcome.

Ohh,i already have an etrex vista which i use on the exc but this wont do the turn by turn directions.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Tomcat]

You won't get turn by turn directions unless you make the track into a 'route' in Mapsource (you have to do this manually using drag n drop road selection), and if you want to go off-road I don't think you can create a 'route', as routes need roads. On the Quest, I can see tracks as a coloured line on the map display (I normally have it set it to 800' scale, autozoom off), and to follow a track its necessary to keep a frequent eye on the display. If you can't see uploaded tracks on the 2610 there may be a display preference that needs to be set.

HTH
TC

 

[Mouse]

Sounds like you want to do what I use my 2610 for, planning gren lane rides.

What I do is this.

When I'm out on a ride, I record track logs for green lanes or other roads that aren't including in the GPS's map. I'm assuming you know how to turn on track log recording: Go into the main menu, find the "track log" tab, and set the option to "On". It shows you on this screen how much track log memory is left, the 2610 can only store 2000 points, so I turn recording off again when I'm back on the mapped roads.

Then when I get home, I download the track log into Fugawi (which is the same sort of thing as Memory Map). You can probably use MapSource for this stage too. I chop the track log into sections, and tidy it up a bit, each section is one "lane", then I store these in my ever growing collection. I also create waypoints marking the start and end of each green lane - by the start and end I mean the places where the track log meets the road that's in the GPS's map.

To plan a route in MapSource, start routing in the normal way from your start waypoint. It'll auto-route to the waypouint that marks the start of a lane (ie a track log). Then, press CTRL-SHIFT-P to bring up the preferences window, and change to "Direct routing". You can then extend the route using direct route segments, and thus (approximately) follow the track log to the waypoint at the other end. Then open the preferences window again and change back to auto-routing. Auto route to the waypoint marking the start of the next lane, and repeat.

One thing to watch out for is that if you recalculate the route, all its segments will be recalculated with whatever preference you currently have selected, direct or auto-routing, so this messes things up. So don't do it

For that reason it's best to plan a day's riding in several sections, each with its own route, so you don't waste all your planning of you mess one of them up.

Also, when drawing the direct route segments that follow a track log, you don't have to add loads of segments trying to follow the track log exactly. When you're viewing this on the screen of your GPS, you'll have the purple line indicating the route, but also the dotted line of the track log, you can navigate pretty well just by seeing where the dotted line goes.

Once you've planned this all in MapSource, transfer the whole lot (waypoints, routes and track logs) to your 2610, and you're ready to go. Make sure you clear the track log in the GPS beforehand, and make sure recording is off, otherwise you'll eventually overwrite all your stored tracks as you ride. You can always turn on recording if you come to a lane you haven't done before, then when you get home, snip out that section of track log and add it to the collection.

 

[Clive]

What Mouse said, although I don't tend to bother planning the road sections. I'll have a written list of the "Start of Lane" Waypoints and if I forget where I am supposed to go at the end of a lane simply use the Find Waypoint and goto shortest route.

Have a look at the GDB file attached to http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showpost.php?p=963834&postcount=60 for an example.

 

[Clive]

Once you've planned this all in MapSource, transfer the whole lot (waypoints, routes and track logs) to your 2610, and you're ready to go. Make sure you clear the track log in the GPS beforehand, and make sure recording is off, otherwise you'll eventually overwrite all your stored tracks as you ride. You can always turn on recording if you come to a lane you haven't done before, then when you get home, snip out that section of track log and add it to the collection.

Also don't forget to switch off Auto-recalculate on the GPS.

 

[Mouse]

Also don't forget to switch off Auto-recalculate on the GPS.

Oh yes, most important thing! I turned it off on mine as soon as I bought it, so I think I forgot that feature even exists!

Also remember, if your GPS does decide to recalculate a route for some reason (it does happen even with auto-recalc turned off) you can reload the saved copy of the route - only the active route is recalculated, not the saved one.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Simple then eh Blue........ .....!!

 

[BLUE(UK)]

Waypoints it is then lads although i think i'd be best to get the 'tracks' on the etrex vista and use the 2610 to get to the start of the 'tracks'.To be honest i didn't want to use both GPS's but if needs must then i'll have to.

A big thanks to MOUSE for taking the time to explain how he does it(yes i do understand but its not as simple as i was expecting to create/follow a track with turn by turn directions).
Another thanks to CLIVE whom posted his waypoints thread which is what made me turn my attention to the 2610 for off road usage when i saw his on his bike on the pics.

If i had my hand book i would be able to look in it and see whether the unit can or cant do these things but being the sort of generous person i am,i leant it to a member on this very forum who is still reading the first page....you know who you are!!

 

[The White Rabbit]

Is there any way of changing the logging on a 2610 so it records less frequently thereby getting more distance for your 2000 points?

Edit...I have just read not. Perhaps an eTrex is a better option for logging? So like Blue that would be 2 on the go at once.

 

[John Armstrong]

Edit...I have just read not. Perhaps an eTrex is a better option for logging? So like Blue that would be 2 on the go at once.

Or get a 2820 that has 10 000 and can be configured for the time / distance it records the track points Only one GPS and the power / audio will transfer from the 2610 to 2820

 

[Greg Masters]

Or get a 2820 that has 10 000 and can be configured for the time / distance it records the track points Only one GPS and the power / audio will transfer from the 2610 to 2820

It's not the issue of the number of tracklog points, the unfortunate fact is that neither the 2610 nor the 2820 have the Tracback function.

To do this properly, load your tracklog into your PC's MapSource program and then download the track into something like a Geko 201 which does have the Tracback feature (and 10,000 tracklog points).

Greg

 

[John Armstrong]

It's not the issue of the number of tracklog points, the unfortunate fact is that neither the 2610 nor the 2820 have the Tracback function.

Greg

But the previous thread was complaining about logging and having to use 2 GPSR's, not trackbac etc etc

 

[Greg Masters]

But the previous thread was complaining about logging and having to use 2 GPSR's, not trackbac etc etc

So it was!



But it's not a good idea to dilute the track point frequency. On 'Auto', the GPSR drops a breadcrumb every time there is a significant change in vector. If it drops them less frequently, there'd be no point in dropping them at all as you'd simply miss a turning.



Greg

 

[John Armstrong]

For what it's worth I use the 30 seconds for a breadcrumb. I reckon that'll give enough to cover a 2 week trip and shows when you stop for the view etc. Does loose out on the hairpins though but all I'm after is where was I when I took the photo / which track did we see ...... etc etc.