Has anybody got them on an 1150 adventure and what do you think of them? Money well spent? I'm thinking of going down this route but want to make sure it's the right route before I shell out £840
HyperPro 'Street Box' shocks set.
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ahutcheon
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What do you get for that (which versions of the Hyperpro shocks)? I'm looking at doing something similar, not sure whether to live without remote preload (I don't adjust it much) or how much difference the remote reservoir makes on the rear shock.
Dunno what the "Street Box" combo stands for but Google images give me the simpler emulsion-type (single-body type of-) shocks, which are probably very fine shocks considering Hyperpro's top notch build quality. Albeit if you like offroad riding or better on-road performance or you're just keen on having those highest quality-, performance- & reliability shocks then I'd add a few hundred more quid and get the proper "3D" Hyperpro shocks with gas/oil separated by a piggyback. It's worth the lextra since it's a more "controlled" shock (benefiting both performance and reliability) compared to the emulsion type where gas and oil are mixed in single body IMHO.
In any case, on both types adding the hydraulic preloader is very important if you constantly keep changing riding weight (i.e. sometimes solo, sometimes with luggage, or passanger, or passanger+luggage etc). R850/1100/1150GSes have no space around the rear shock unlike some other bikes where you can access the rear shock with a c-spanner, so to adjust spring preload on this particular GS model you have to take the shock off (by removing rear wheel, brake caliper etc) every time, hence adding the hydraulic preloader makes your life a bliss in comparison.
Only if you ride the bike all the time with the same weight, then it's allright not to have it.
In any case, on both types adding the hydraulic preloader is very important if you constantly keep changing riding weight (i.e. sometimes solo, sometimes with luggage, or passanger, or passanger+luggage etc). R850/1100/1150GSes have no space around the rear shock unlike some other bikes where you can access the rear shock with a c-spanner, so to adjust spring preload on this particular GS model you have to take the shock off (by removing rear wheel, brake caliper etc) every time, hence adding the hydraulic preloader makes your life a bliss in comparison.
Only if you ride the bike all the time with the same weight, then it's allright not to have it.
I got a hyperpro rear shock and it was spot on.
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ahutcheon
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Thanks for the info. I pretty much never carry a passenger, and relatively rarely bother to adjust the preload on the standard rear shock when I add luggage or venture off the tarmac. But it sounds like a major pain in the arse if I have to dismantle the bike every time I want to tweak things until I've found a setup that works under most conditions.
I've been looking at Motorworks web pages, and everything seems to be described as "3D" but the cheaper options also say they're emulsion. Even the remote reservoir rear says it's emulsion (unless that's a typo?), but it does come with more adjustments than the single-body one.
Am I likely to start using adjustments more, assuming they do more than the (rear rebound, I think) on the standard shock? Or am I better off with decent kit built for a good balance of performance rather than having separate high and low speed adjustments I can get wrong?
Hyperpro's main web site is still offline (I guess that would be the place to find all of the details), but the picture of the GS Streetbox does look like single-body shocks with a remote preload on the back.
I've been looking at Motorworks web pages, and everything seems to be described as "3D" but the cheaper options also say they're emulsion. Even the remote reservoir rear says it's emulsion (unless that's a typo?), but it does come with more adjustments than the single-body one.
Am I likely to start using adjustments more, assuming they do more than the (rear rebound, I think) on the standard shock? Or am I better off with decent kit built for a good balance of performance rather than having separate high and low speed adjustments I can get wrong?
Hyperpro's main web site is still offline (I guess that would be the place to find all of the details), but the picture of the GS Streetbox does look like single-body shocks with a remote preload on the back.
Yep, hydraulic preloader is a good choice then, costs bloody too much, but you'll thank yourself to bits if you've even once or twice tried re-setting preload by taking off the shock each time like I've done (still don't have it, but probably will buy it soon!) 
Shock's high/slow dampening & rebound settings: mostly you set them straight just once, and just remember maybe 2-3 settings for each condition.
What I really like about the slow- and high speed (it's the shock's motion speed, not related to the bike's speed BTW) adjustments is I can set is soft for sharper corrugations yet have the firm planeted feeling while riding the "wavy" (slow-motion) tarmac found in me country. Or i.e. vice-versa on crossing the speed bumps (slow action of the shock, i.e. often bottoms out with a single setting shock set soft for offroad use, or too stiff set for tarmac use) etc, where it's hard to find a compromise setting with single-dampening setting shocks.
Looks complicated at the beginning, but you start with the factory settings (specified in Hyperpro paperwork that comes with the particular shock - if you go terribly wrong, you start from there again, simple) and in a couple of weeks you start going through click by click (mostly just 1-2 clicks of each setting) and learning how they change handling, comfort and "planted-feel" in various conditions (made better/or worse and adjust accordingly on each according direction). after couple of weeks "mapping" them you'll have the optimum settings figured out and usually leave them as they are. Just those rare days when you radically change riding style from every days routine you'll re-set the settings - i.e. doing an offroad course, or a track-day etc. Most wouldn't bother with those at all and keep the "average" settings, but if you're really hardcore on settings, then those extremes you can "map" out as well, write-down or remember the settings.
(I use my brake caliper's locker key to change the clicker settings btw, that simple)
Hope this helps,
Margus
Shock's high/slow dampening & rebound settings: mostly you set them straight just once, and just remember maybe 2-3 settings for each condition.
What I really like about the slow- and high speed (it's the shock's motion speed, not related to the bike's speed BTW) adjustments is I can set is soft for sharper corrugations yet have the firm planeted feeling while riding the "wavy" (slow-motion) tarmac found in me country. Or i.e. vice-versa on crossing the speed bumps (slow action of the shock, i.e. often bottoms out with a single setting shock set soft for offroad use, or too stiff set for tarmac use) etc, where it's hard to find a compromise setting with single-dampening setting shocks.
Looks complicated at the beginning, but you start with the factory settings (specified in Hyperpro paperwork that comes with the particular shock - if you go terribly wrong, you start from there again, simple) and in a couple of weeks you start going through click by click (mostly just 1-2 clicks of each setting) and learning how they change handling, comfort and "planted-feel" in various conditions (made better/or worse and adjust accordingly on each according direction). after couple of weeks "mapping" them you'll have the optimum settings figured out and usually leave them as they are. Just those rare days when you radically change riding style from every days routine you'll re-set the settings - i.e. doing an offroad course, or a track-day etc. Most wouldn't bother with those at all and keep the "average" settings, but if you're really hardcore on settings, then those extremes you can "map" out as well, write-down or remember the settings.
(I use my brake caliper's locker key to change the clicker settings btw, that simple)
Hope this helps,
Margus
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I thought this had posted so hope it doesn't appears 2x
I would suck up the cost of the hydraulic preload because these things need to be exercised or they will seize up. A lock ring adjuster that's impossible to reach just wont get used and will be seized when you (inevitably) need to move the setting.
The damping adjustment will go off when the shock is ready for overhaul. The oil gets thicker so damping has to be changed to have the same effect. Not the change and get it overhauled ASAP then costs will be minimised. Leave it too long and parts more likely to need replacement increasing costs.
I would suck up the cost of the hydraulic preload because these things need to be exercised or they will seize up. A lock ring adjuster that's impossible to reach just wont get used and will be seized when you (inevitably) need to move the setting.
The damping adjustment will go off when the shock is ready for overhaul. The oil gets thicker so damping has to be changed to have the same effect. Not the change and get it overhauled ASAP then costs will be minimised. Leave it too long and parts more likely to need replacement increasing costs.
Try Nitron, I have them on mine and they are fantastic value for money and built beautifully.
I just had a YSS fitted, manufactured to my weight and needs, with hydraulic preload adjuster.
Very reasonable cost and has made a huge difference to my bike.
Firefox Racing are the crowd that do them.
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Very reasonable cost and has made a huge difference to my bike.
Firefox Racing are the crowd that do them.
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Maxton, every day of the week, superb quality and service.
True, but double the budget.
Had Maxton suspension on my Multistrada...fantastic. I contacted them several times when looking to replace the suspension on my Guzzi 1200 sport, they never got back to me !
I have replaced the springs front and rear on my Explorer with Hyperpro items, with very good results. I've just ordered a 'Street box' kit for the Guzzi. The basic shock is of the same quality and has the same features as the more expensive shock, apart from the pre load adjuster.
I don't need to keep adjusting the preload once set, so for me it was a no brainer. As for it seizing up as someone has suggested, it's no problem just to give it a shift back and forth every couple of month's.
I can't comment on the complete unit but I had Hyperpro springs fitted both front and rear at the same time as having the units serviced/reconditioned, transformed the bike. The majority of my riding is 2 up and (over) loaded with kit and normally on rubbish road surfaces and 2 years in everything has been excellent.
However, if you do intend to blast across Africa/Morocco then it may be a better idea to replace both units with a full upgrade
However, if you do intend to blast across Africa/Morocco then it may be a better idea to replace both units with a full upgrade
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