All very reasonable
I rode the WC for the first time yesterday
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All very reasonable
I have just ridden my adv LC 1150 miles round the highlands in the last 4 days and it has been fantastic,
The only moan and it is a minor moan is the noisy bloody tyres but they have worked hard in the wet and dry so I can forgive them.
The other thing I should mention is the seat, I have a sargent on order but the stock is plenty good enough so I will cancel the sargent
The only moan and it is a minor moan is the noisy bloody tyres but they have worked hard in the wet and dry so I can forgive them.
The other thing I should mention is the seat, I have a sargent on order but the stock is plenty good enough so I will cancel the sargent
And then in the next sentence you say you've fitted a quickshifter
I've had quickshifters on just about every bike I've owned, not just bm stuff there not pointless tat, tis the only thing worth its money, and yeah I'm blind I'm suckered into this gizmo stuff well have been but I'm starting to see sense
I set it to dynamic when I left the dealership and left it there.
I have no complaints about the pick-up, the motor spins up just fine, though it's best if you short shift, helped on the non-powershift model if you snick up the gearbox without the clutch. Good, but not extraordinary.
Whilst i await del of my new bike I've brought myself a a little minta, a hexhead TC (not my first) and so after already owning 2 wassers I've put the TC back to back against the wc, the twin cam is a better buy, quality is better, it ticks over without the dreadful clonking tick tick sound, the gearbox is sublime, it handles as good, the bar/seating position i prefer over the wc, the air cooled traditional engine is really lovely .
The TC feels more stable on the front end under acceleration, its not as quick however i feel the TC has perfectly matched power for its chassis.
It don't have cruise and all the gizmos that we seemed to be brainwashed into buying, in reality we don't need em !
Quickshifter ! Well as of today I've fitted a quickshifter to my twin cam and its brill as per the shifter on my wc.
I like the bm traditional indicators however i could never get used to the cancel on the throttle side, my little hands could never reach it when I'm on the gas, no problem really, a couple of wires and swop the switches and bingo cancel on left horn on right.
Its as good as any wc now.
Cancel on left - horn on right feels more natural .
So, I assume you've cancelled the order for the replacement LC, and will bank the money?
This new WC is not a revolutionary bike, it's just another evolution of what originally was a great bike to start with 
I started my bmw ownership on a 2000 1150 GS and it was streets ahead of the Africa Twin I had prior. The 6th gear was a blessing
I moved from this after a few years ownership to the classic red and silver 1150 GSA and I owned it before LWR but boy did it create a stir whenever I parked it up
Bought as a two year old 2000 mile minter, kept for 3 years and sold it nearly for what I paid for it (thanks Ewan & Charlie) covered 30,000 miles on it without a single fault.
Then I moved to a 1200ADV and it was again more refined with some nice touches. Carried me safely to Morocco and back without a hitch
I'm now on a new 1200GSA WC and again it's a great bike, it's nothing new but just a further development of what essentially was a great bike to start with. Yes they have some issues but not everyone suffers from these. I never have on any GS I've owned
So I never expect people to say "oh my god, I must have one" as they are not anything ground breaking
They are very good bikes that go well and do it in comfort. They do what they are designed to do basically. No better or worse than the 2000 model 1150GS I started on but just looks different with more electronic toys thrown in.
Just compare a year 2000 ford focus to a 2014 one
well you can't just as you should not compare a 2014 GS to one that is 14 years old. They are similar in name and engine but that's about it. Both will get you from A to B with a grin
Jon
I started my bmw ownership on a 2000 1150 GS and it was streets ahead of the Africa Twin I had prior. The 6th gear was a blessing
I moved from this after a few years ownership to the classic red and silver 1150 GSA and I owned it before LWR but boy did it create a stir whenever I parked it up
Bought as a two year old 2000 mile minter, kept for 3 years and sold it nearly for what I paid for it (thanks Ewan & Charlie)
covered 30,000 miles on it without a single fault.Then I moved to a 1200ADV and it was again more refined with some nice touches. Carried me safely to Morocco and back without a hitch
I'm now on a new 1200GSA WC and again it's a great bike, it's nothing new but just a further development of what essentially was a great bike to start with. Yes they have some issues but not everyone suffers from these. I never have on any GS I've owned
So I never expect people to say "oh my god, I must have one" as they are not anything ground breaking
They are very good bikes that go well and do it in comfort. They do what they are designed to do basically. No better or worse than the 2000 model 1150GS I started on but just looks different with more electronic toys thrown in.
Just compare a year 2000 ford focus to a 2014 one
well you can't just as you should not compare a 2014 GS to one that is 14 years old. They are similar in name and engine but that's about it. Both will get you from A to B with a grin Jon
No because the cash offer was no were as good as the replacement bike offer and certainly would not buy me another new bike, obviously BMW HQ wanted me to stay a customer so would rather i have a new bike, and the following day i brought the twin cam, after i cleaned it and MINCED it with me Air DRYER i was made an offer i could not refuse and will be with its new owner after I've been away nxt wk to Germany, he also wanted the quickshifter so paid me for this as well.
Troppo
Bemused observer
Ha ha ha...you blokes are living in a river in Egypt.
I have ridden various early models of GS. They were uniformly shit.
The WC is black and white.
I have ridden various early models of GS. They were uniformly shit.
The WC is black and white.
and a 1190R or an Explorer will leave one for dead
Troppo
Bemused observer
An Explorer?.....ahhh, no. I owned one for 12 months...
An Explorer?.....ahhh, no. I owned one for 12 months...
So what's so good about the WC (except the clutch, which we know is shite)
Not quite true in the real world JB
I can't find it but somewhere on you tube is a video of some South African journalists doing a comparison of the GS WC and the 1190R
Standing quarter mile the GS was quicker
Top gear roll on the GS was quicker at all speeds until 100 mph
Troppo
Bemused observer
Austrian shit box...
Note the colour of the GS....RACING RED.
Note the colour of the GS....RACING RED.
Yes it does, I find it hard to believe that my RT has (basically) the same engine as the GS/GSA WC's.
The RTwc engine is very quiet, with just a lovely whistle from the primary gears.
The gearing and engine mapping is also different, and its a lot smoother, with less vibes.
After almost 3 months on new GSwc, i was very happy to give it back and be reunited with my RT.
The bike must be hard work around tight stuff/ mountain roads ?
Why?
I take my 1600 down narrow roads in the Ardennes, Vosges and Morvan and across the Alps, on a regular basis. An S1000RR too.
Climb to the top of any Alpine pass and look at the range of bikes parked up there. Our Continental cousins have far less snobbery as regards bikes and a much better grip on what is possible.
There was a burst of riders of the 1200GS complaining that they couldn't manage the bike around hairpins and asking if they should perhaps have gone for the lower ratio 1st gear option. They viewed it as BMW's fault, not theirs. Naturally.
....was a question as I've never ridden one. I'm guessing the extra weight would work against it ?
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