IAM training/"making progress"
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If there is anybody reading this that is a resident in Cumbria, and interested in taking further training, such as the IAM Advanced Rider Course, then you may qualify for a £100 grant which is payable once you have completed the course and taken the test.
To find out if you are eligible, you will need to register for the grant through one of the approved providers. They will check with Cumbria Road Safety Partnership if you are eligible and whether there is budget remaining, if there is, that money is ringfenced for you until you complete the course (which has to be within a year). Once the course/test is completed the provider invoices CRSP for the £100, when they receive the money they pay the course attendee.
As it happens my IAM group, MBEAM, covering South Cumbria, is one of the providers for the IAM's Advanced Rider Course, so if you are interested, or want more info, drop me a PM with your name, address, and telephone number and I can arrange to register you.
For the past two years Lancashire Road Partnership have offered something similar for Lancashire residents, who wish to complete either of the IAM's or RoSPA's advanced courses but the sum involved is £75. The only difference is you have to attend a Lancashire Police run BikeSafe course before you can register for the cash. The current budget for this cash support runs out in April, before the 2020 courses start. We don't know yet whether they'll get a new budget for the next financial year, but LRSP will let me know nearer the time.
Regarding the Cumbria scheme, I'm not sure if there are any CRSP authorised providers of advanced course in the North of the county. However, I do know that the DVSA Enhanced Rider Scheme was an approved course for the scheme, though I don't know who the authorised providers are.
To find out if you are eligible, you will need to register for the grant through one of the approved providers. They will check with Cumbria Road Safety Partnership if you are eligible and whether there is budget remaining, if there is, that money is ringfenced for you until you complete the course (which has to be within a year). Once the course/test is completed the provider invoices CRSP for the £100, when they receive the money they pay the course attendee.
As it happens my IAM group, MBEAM, covering South Cumbria, is one of the providers for the IAM's Advanced Rider Course, so if you are interested, or want more info, drop me a PM with your name, address, and telephone number and I can arrange to register you.
For the past two years Lancashire Road Partnership have offered something similar for Lancashire residents, who wish to complete either of the IAM's or RoSPA's advanced courses but the sum involved is £75. The only difference is you have to attend a Lancashire Police run BikeSafe course before you can register for the cash. The current budget for this cash support runs out in April, before the 2020 courses start. We don't know yet whether they'll get a new budget for the next financial year, but LRSP will let me know nearer the time.
Regarding the Cumbria scheme, I'm not sure if there are any CRSP authorised providers of advanced course in the North of the county. However, I do know that the DVSA Enhanced Rider Scheme was an approved course for the scheme, though I don't know who the authorised providers are.
Theres a discount code
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The supposed way, is to join the IAM who then pass your details to the local group, they are supposed to contact you within a week.
I know of one group who have been failing to do this recently, yet nobody picked up upon it. Sometimes the system doesn't work as it should.
I have had associate's who worked in Edinburgh but lived in Glasgow, and preferred to join the group here, possibly something to consider, if it suits you ???
My personal view, I never cared how long it took, everyone learns at their own speed. I had one associate after two drives (or 3 hours) was test ready, another took a 14 months, but she passed. As long as they put the effort in, so will I; most observers are like this, they want to see a safer rider/driver on the road.
I hope that whoever you decide to go too, that you find it both interesting and fun.
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You’re not having a lot of luck are you? Should have been easy to sign up at the NEC for the event offer price of £99. Our group’s got a £99 offer atm but Sheffield’s a bit far for you. Sorry for your pain
You’re not having a lot of luck are you? Should have been easy to sign up at the NEC for the event offer price of £99. Our group’s got a £99 offer atm but Sheffield’s a bit far for you. Sorry for your pain
Simon can always come and stop at mine Tony ... he popped across t'other day with a hand made walking stick he had made for me
I've yet to take him 'out'
Can I dare to comment on which foot down ....
There are things that matter, and things that don't matter. But .... (sigh ... suck teeth ... grimace in anticipation of the replies .... ) .... things that 'don't matter' often do matter!
My youngest (21) holds her knife and fork in the 'wrong' hands! She's done it for years Ive tried telling her but I don't want to be an unbearable nag, so I've left it and that's now how she uses them. Does it matter? Well .... No it doesn't really. But ... arrgghhhh .... it sort of does!
Are there more important things to get yer teeth stuck into in good riding than which blinking foot you put down? Of course! If as a riding coach, thats all you can pick up on, then you're either a shite coach or the bloke you're coaching is a true riding God!
So ... it sort of doesn't matter.
My 'But', in the whole question of 'does it matter', is that style and finesse are (to me), really important qualities. We're all familiar with the four S's of safety system smoothness speed. For me there should be a fifth S there of style! (and it might even trump Speed?).
So as an example, I have just come back from a week NATO escorting. 2/3's of the countries escort bikers were there, and whilst escorting should be a national standard, boy do you see differences in standards between different forces. And aside from the actual execution of an escort, what you also see .... and it shouts at you .... is differences in attention to style and overall finesse.
Part and parcel of escorting is the finish at the pick up and drop off points, riding as a team together as you recce routes, filtering and moving in the traffic together as a team. Starting engines together, getting on and off together .... your overall appearance. And some forces were good at it, and others just atrocious ('walking' the bike in traffic, dragging feet, both feet on the floor, shit filtering, no formation, gaps in their group riding ... etc etc ).
Does it matter? Am I being an anal fucktard? Well .... Yeah!! It matters! The world is looking on - You need to look fucking good! And that includes the most trivial of things like 'how' you put your foot on the floor!
Car driving! Is there more to driving a manual car well than how you hold and move the gear stick
The best advanced car drivers (and I say 'the best' because there are drivers and there are drivers ..) have got all the pages of all the chapters in all the books ticked off. They are blinding at what they do. Do these guys .... the best guys .... do they just grab the gear lever? No. Even how you hold the lever, and say the differences in how you would hold it between 5th to 3rd, and 3rd to 2nd matter.
So my laboured point, is that if you want to be good ... really good .... the little things do matter.
Does it matter which foot you put down? I have a preference (right - I can now play with neutral), but as a coach myself, I would never give anybody a hard time for choosing to put their left foot down. But if one junction it was left, the next right, the next left ... they'd get a hard time! And how they put it down ? That matters! Little hops, skips, paddles, two feet down, 'walking' the bike ... they all look shit! Set your standards so that your heel touches down first, and then it rolls another inch and a half onto a flat foot and then doesn't move!
There are things that don't matter. But actually ..... they do.
Great post Giles; the word i use to describe what say; is swagger; you need some swagger to your movement's;
thebuyer
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Feeling happy
Yesterday afternoon I passed my test ... with a first.
Enjoyable and informative examiner who gave me a full debrief of my ride.
Looking forward to a social ride with him very soon, which he says will be spirited!
Yesterday afternoon I passed my test ... with a first.
Enjoyable and informative examiner who gave me a full debrief of my ride.
Looking forward to a social ride with him very soon, which he says will be spirited!
Delboy777
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Congratulations, and well done for getting a F1rst
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Excellent! Well done. Why not post some reflections here for the benefit of others?
Congratulations, well done on getting a F1RST!
Well done on passing your test, how did you find it?
What sort of things to expect or look out for? Questions to ask when first signing up?
thebuyer
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The biggest challenge for me was re learning the HighwayCode.. found the app on my phone really helpful, regularly taking the quick tests. As it turned out the examiner only asked a few questions.
During the training I found that being in a much lower gear than I ever thought I needed to be in, really helped with maintaining constant speed especially in 20 zones.
I’m still surprised at a few of the difference of opinions between different observers and even the examiner...
Currently looking at taking some advanced training early this year up in sunny scotland (ok, it might rain). What are the roadspeeds that folks travel at on these training courses ?
Is everything expected to be below 60 in NSL zones, or is it real world...occasionally over 60....
Is everything expected to be below 60 in NSL zones, or is it real world...occasionally over 60....
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You are expected to make safe progress, but you can’t brake the law in doing so. If in a NSL zone, 60 is your max if you can get to it . Hopefully you will enjoy the course.
Perish the thought, the great god making progress no longer exists.
Rain, surely not, more like Scottish sunshine
I can recommend Get2Grips and slightly biased EDAM who are a very friendly group of motorcyclists.
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Get2grips is top of my list, whilst I don't spend all day at a million miles an hour, hopefully any training would be reflect local "conditions". Most bikes skip cars on their way from Tyndrum to Glencoe and vice versa, on the big straights and with an early morning big cars get a proper move on. They aren't doing 60....am sure Roddy will work it out...Perish the thought, the great god making progress no longer exists.
Rain, surely not, more like Scottish sunshine
I can recommend Get2Grips and slightly biased EDAM who are a very friendly group of motorcyclists.
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phooey
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I think you might struggle to find a trainer that condones 'speeding' on the public highway whilst you are under their 'instruction'. .
Not good for business if your brand gets prosecuted for a speed or safety related matter.
Part of any course will include assessing when an overtake is 'on' and when it isn't.
This is called restraint and its really, really important.
When you have mastered that, and everything else, how fast you ride is entirely up to you.
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