IBM Thinkpad 600x

[bustupbiker]

Hi all, i have an old IBM Thinkpad 600x that i use for my maps only, it has worked fine until the BIOS battery gave up. I have replaced said battery but now all i get is.
black screen and error 161 and 163 then the padlock.
I have tried all the BIOS passwords i can think of.

SO, does any body have any thinkpad bios passwords i could try please???

thanks all.
Lyn.

 

[Fanum]

Lyn....do you know what Bios it has???

(If it's a Vobis/IBM bios, try 'merlin')

If not, let us know..there are lots of backdoors you can try butsome systems only allow a few tries before locking up

 

[Fanum]

PS also can you boot from a floppy???

There are several progs that will reset the cmos to factery default but you need to be able to boot into DOS.....Killcmos is one that's free and seems to work

 

[bustupbiker]

Thanks Fanum but no go on merlin, no boot from floppy iether just a black screen and the pad lock. I will go see if i can get it apart to check the bios chip name as i do not remember it from boot up, i don't think i ever looked.
cheers. Lyn.

 

[bustupbiker]

Hi Fanum, i think from the beep codes: 2 short then the error message ie; 161 163 that it is the IBM bios if that helps.
Lyn.

 

[bustupbiker]

think pad Code Description any good to any one else.


101 System board interrupt failure (unexpected interrupt)
102 BIOS ROM checksum error (PC, XT); timer error (AT, MCA)
103 BASIC ROM checksum error (PC, XT); timer interrupt error (AT, MCA)
104 Interrupt controller error (PC, XT); protected mode error (AT, MCA)
105 Timer failure (PC, XT); 8042 keyboard controller failure (MCA)
106 System board converting logic test failure
107 System board non-maskable interrupt (NMI) test failure; Hot NMI test failure (MCA)
108 System board timer bus test failure
109 DMA test memory select failure
110 PS/2 system board parity check error (MCA); PS/2 system board memory error (ISA)
111 PS/2 adapter memory problem (ISA); PS/2 I/O channel parity check error (MCA)
112 PS/2 watchdog timeout error (NMI)
113 PS/2 DMA arbitration time out error (NMI)
114 PS/2 external ROM checksum error
115 BIOS ROM checksum error, cache parity error, or DMA error
116 System board read/write error
118 System Board parity or L2 cache error
119 2.88MB floppy installed but not supported by the floppy controller
120 CPU self test error
121 Unexpected hardware interrupt occurred; 256KB ROM checksum error (second 128KB bank)
129 System Board Failure
131 Cassette wrap test; DMA compatibility registers error
132 DMA extended registers error
133 DMA verify logic error
134 DMA arbitration error
151 Battery, real time clock, or CMOS RAM failure
152 Real time clock, or CMOS RAM failure
160 PS/2 system board ID not recognized
161 CMOS configuration lost (battery has died)
162 CMOS checksum error, CRC error, or adapter ID mismatch
163 CMOS error; Clock is not updating
164 CMOS error; CMOS setting does not match memory on system board
165 PS/2 adapter ID mismatch
166 PS/2 adapter time out; card busy
167 PS/2 system clock not updating
168 Math coprocessor error in the CMOS configuration
169 System board and processor card configuration mismatch
170 ASCII setup conflict error
171 Rolling bit test failure on CMOS shutdown byte
172 Rolling bit test failure on NVRAM diagnostic byte
173 Bad CMOS/NVRAM checksum
174 Bad system configuration
175 Bad EEPROM CRC
177 Bad password CRC
178 Bad EEPROM
179 NVRAM error log full
180x Sub address date error in slot x
181 Unsupported configuration
182 Password switch is not in the writing position
183 System halted; password is required
184 Bad power on password
185 Bad startup sequence
186 Password protection hardware error
187 Serial number error
188 Bad EEPROM checksum
189 Too many incorrect password attempts
191 Cache controller test failed
194 System board memory error
195 Configuration read from hibernation area of HDD doesn't match actual configuration
196 Read error occurred in hibernation area of HDD
199 User indicated device list not correct

Lyn.

 

[Ste@SSB]

Ibm passwords are a swine to crack ... they are not like a normal bios password as they don't live on the bios eeprom chip ... they live on a little chip called the "nowI'mfukt" chip ... but anyway ... the error codes you have "161-163" meant that the time and date aren't set ... I also think it comes up with that error when the cmos battery is dead (just because it has been changed doesn't mean was changed for a good un')...

Mr IBM says ...

Supervisor and hard disk passwords: The
supervisor password (PAP) and the hard disk password
(HDP) are security features that are used to protect the
system and the hard disk data from unauthorized access.
No overriding capability is provided. If only a hard disk
password is set, you must get the password from its owner
in order to run diagnostic tests and perform service. If
both the supervisor password and the hard disk password
are set, you can enter Easy-Setup by pressing the Enter
key or by entering the power-on password at the
supervisor password prompt. In this case, the Password,
Start up, Network, and Initialize or Asset ID (for some
models) icons cannot be selected.
Note: The supervisor password and the hard disk
password cannot be replaced if they are forgotten.
If the customer forgets the supervisor password,
the system board must be replaced. If the
customer forgets the hard disk password, the hard
disk drive must be replaced.
How to remove the power-on passwords:
If only the power-on password is set, do the following to
remove it:
1. Turn off the computer.
2. Remove the DIMM cover from the bottom of the
computer.
3. Short-circuit the two password pads or put the jumper
on the pins.
For the location of the password pads or the jumper,
see “Password pads” on page 68.
4. Turn on the computer and wait until the POST ends.
After the POST ends, the password prompt does not
appear. The power-on password has been removed.
5. Reinstall the DIMM cover.
If both the power-on password and the supervisor
password are set, do the following to remove them:
1. Power on the computer by pressing and holding F1.
2. Enter the supervisor password. The Easy-Setup
menu appears.
3. Click the Password icon.
4. Click the Power on icon.
5. Enter the supervisor password, and press the Space
bar.
6. Press Enter twice.
7. Click Exit; then click Restart.
The power-on password has been removed.

Ste says ... hold down F1 while you boot ... the default password is Admin ... sometimes...

 

[sjwb]

After reading the last post-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I think I would go and buy a new laptop

 

[bustupbiker]

Thanks chaps for your help, i have downloaded the Hardware Maintenance Manual for the ThinkPad 600X and it would seem it is a bin job
Ho! Hum! i still have the HDD with the maps
thanks again for your input/help.
Lyn.

 

[Ste@SSB]

take the drive out and stick it on ebay ... the parts are worth selling ... good screens batteries and keyboards always fetch something...

 

[Fanum]

Whoa hold on.....when i was being nosey about this last night I did find a sitewith instructions and pics for pulling, reprogrammming and replacing the Cmos chip with the password on it......It's the sort of thing any decent PC repair place should be able to do (forget PC world wetc, you want a one man band specialist type place who knows whathe's doing)

I'll see if I can find the page again in a bit

Don't bin it yet

 

[bustupbiker]

well done that man::: thanks Fanum. I did find a site in America that would
do the job but it's a long way to send a laptop plus the new MVN chip will only remove the bios password not the board and HDD passwords. The passwords are not stored on the bios chip but on two other MVN chips, so they say at IBM.

 

[Ste@SSB]

Celltec ... they sell mainboards if you can't find someone to fix it ...