Is the front of your 1200GS straight?

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I need a sanity check!!

Bought a new GS a couple of months ago (6th - first one bought in 1989) and on riding it after collection noticed the front end wasn't straight. When riding in a straight line the left hand grip was further forward and slightly higher than the right (It will be higher than the right if out of alignment i.e. further forward, because of the steering head angle). It is not something that you can see stationary, only moving, because it is only then that the front wheel tracks relatively straight (gyroscopic etc.). It was one of those things that is only slight but once you notice - bugs you like knowing your wife has your credit card and the PIN.

Brought this to the attention of the dealer and asked for it to be rectified at first service - thinking it was just the bars or something simple. At the first service the Dealer (a different one to where I bought the bike) replaced the bars (said they were bent) and gave it back to me.

The bike was still not straight. The dealer agreed and tried to rectify. They spent a day (in consultation with BMW technical at Bracknell) adjusting the front end. This mostly involved undoing clamps; twisting fork tubes and re-clamping; then test riding it. They told me it was sorted and I picked it up. The bike was still not straight.

Since most of this work was being done under warrantee, that dealer was probably getting pissed off with me, and any big claims need to be through the dealer you bought it from - I took it to the original dealer. They test rode it and agreed it was not straight. They decided to replace the headstock frame (the bit that connects the top of the steering to the engine). This was done, the bike proclaimed straight and that the frame had been out of true.

I test rode it and still felt the front was not straight. Left bar still slightly forward of the right. Still noticeable in a straight line and most noticeable going around very gentle left hand curves when the handle bars still appear to be pointing right!!

Finally getting to the point and my ultimate question. As a sanity check I rode 2 demonstrators from supplying dealer and one from the first dealer and.................. they appeared to have exactly the same steering issue!!!!!!!!!!! This means that:

1. I'm mad.
2. I'm getting twisted in old age.
3. There is a visual illusion with the front of the bike (caused by the odd placement of the clocks etc.)
4. All new or recent GS's have bent front ends.

Bike is a 11 plate, full options, Triple Dark GS. (Weird name - looks great!)

I'd be really grateful for comments from anyone who has an 11, 10, 09 bike whether they feel their bike is similarly afflicted. Particularly I would be grateful if next time you ride it (when in a straight line) you note the position of the bars against fixed points on the front fairing (try not to look at the clocks as they do screw with your perspective) and if when tracking straight whether the fork uprights appear to be parallel.
 
Sadly....... Recently poked, prodded, pricked and pickled by eminent doctors who declared I'm in rude health (including eyesight). No comments made about sanity which may be the issue.
 
Maybe the bikes are straight but the roads are not? :nenau

;)
 
If I were running the world: straights would be short; bends would be a minimum of 45°; East Anglia would be subjected to strong plate tectonics; bikes would operate road tax and fuel duty free; and cars, lorries and caravans would only be allowed to travel between 2200 (and dark) and 0500 (still dark).

Seriously - Road camber and subtle variations of straightness all considered when assessing 'bentness' of front end.
 
As a proud resident of East Anglia I'm interested to why you would like strong plate tectonics on it??? :confused:
 
I was born outside Kings Lynn and always thought East Anglia needed more Hills. So moved to the Welsh Borders. Kings Lynn can be reclaimed by the sea.
 
Take your bike to mainland Europe, you'll find it probably runs straight and feels 'right'.
 
I'd be really grateful for comments from anyone who has an 11, 10, 09 bike whether they feel their bike is similarly afflicted.

I had more or less the same feeling with my R1200GS (09).

Went to the dealer, they said that it was OK since when I was leaving my hands from the bar the bike was going straight and true.

Although, it felt like it was turning more steep on the right corners than the lefts.....I leaved with that for more than 9.000Km.

But always something felt very wrong. So I uninstalled the bar from the upper fork bridge, and tried to see first of all if the bar was straight. I measured everything on a '0' bend granite plate...and everything was OK. So bars were fine.

Next step without the bar installed, was to see if the upper fork bridge was totally aligned with the lower fork bridge....and BINGOOOO....lower bridge seemed to be torsion-ed to the right (maybe less than 1 degree...but it was clear that something was not true).

So, I installed the bar and unscrewed slightly (that means that the screws were in place but not "very-very" tight) the four (4) screws locking the forks to the lower bridge. Then kicked the frond wheel couple of times until the upper and lower bridges got aligned or so (at least visually). Then took a ride around the block with the screw and the bike felt more straight and a lot better on cornering at low speeds. I did the same thing by trail and error more than 4 times, and finally everything looked and felt straight. When happy I re-torqued the screws since then and for the last 4500Km everything is OK.

So I believe that it was an alignment problem had to do with the initial assembly of the bike or maybe any big heat on a road anomaly that forced the forks to push the lower bridge some degrees to the right.

I hope that helps.:beerjug:
 
Dr KC. Thanks for you comments. I think what you did is what the first dealer attempted to do to my bike. They attempted to align the lower fork bridge with the upper by loosening the screws and twisting the tubes. Apparently they did this six times; with six test rides. But then I rode the bike and although it appeared better (not by much) it was still out.
 
Mine does that but I bent the bars dropping it in some sand.

You get used to it and it seems normal - all other GS's now feel out of true :D

Andres
 
Allelujah! Its not just me then! I picked my 2011 GS up on 5 July and noticed the problem on the way home - slightly LH down when riding straight. I mentioned it at the first service and they said that they would look at it - can't say I have looked for the problem since. I think the running-in thing makes you conscious of the revs so you tend to look down more an perhaps notice these minor things. The other thing of course is that it appears not straight but relative to what? If you use the dash/clocks as a reference then you are making the assumption that the clocks are straight - might be an issue.

Anyway, another definite sufferer here but not something that I am going to worry about.
 
I was born outside Kings Lynn and always thought East Anglia needed more Hills. So moved to the Welsh Borders. Kings Lynn can be reclaimed by the sea.

Kings Lynn isn't East Anglia's jewel I'd admit....but not far from that you've got the north Norfolk coast! :thumb2
 
Try holding the clocks with two hands and moving them until a visually better alignment is seen with the bars. I had this on an 09 and the clocks will move on the rubber spaced mountings. Just a thought, hope it helps.:rob
 


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