Is there no end to it all?

[daylyons]

Hello, all this talk about changing the oil filter is fair doing me head in. I am in the process of changing the filter on a 1991 R100GS with oil cooler. There is no paper element. There is no metal ring either. (Although in mitigation I see that the factory may have push-fitted one onto the outer face of the filter chamber, but it certainly does not want to come out - this is a 1991 bike).

That just leaves three rings:

I. The little stumpy black collar, which goes on the big hole of the filter and is the first to go inside the engine.

II. The smaller of the two rings (black) which sits on the other end of the filter.

III. The big white ring, which locates nicely in the outer ring-groove of the outer engine plate.

That's it, if you have a 1991 bike. No paper elements. No metal rings.

ALso I have just finished cleaning my petrol taps. Now I need two new column filters and the green pipes that go inside. Mine had completely rotted away and it took ages to get them out of the tank. The bike is getting revenge for not having been ridden for ten years.

Weather is lousy here in Kingston and it is also my birthday.

daylyons

 

[BegesRus]

Better get a metal ring thing - quick

 

[Steptoe]

. There is no metal ring either. (Although in mitigation I see that the factory may have push-fitted one onto the outer face of the filter chamber, but it certainly does not want to come out - this is a 1991 bike).

That is not a ring . It's a sleeve and it doesn't come out. Your confusing it with the metal shim, and if your bike didn't have one when you removed the filter cover then don't fit one now

Better get a metal ring thing - quick

If it didn't have one fitted originally it doesn't need one. Same as it didn't have a gasket fitted, because that particular engine doesn't need it.

 

[David Nimrod]

Weather is lousy here in Kingston and it is also my birthday.

Cheer up dude... and Happy Birthday

 

[daylyons]

Thanks for all your responses. Two rubbers and no metal ring it will be.
And the bike was bought at Pidcocks in Long Eaton in 1991 and regularly serviced by the boys there. I am planning to go to the folk who now live under the arches near Tower Bridge for a service, once I have got the ruddy exhaust system back together. And the front calliper refuses to be bled properly. I might try hanging it up from the ceiling to get the bubbles to clear - it always worked on the Le Mans.

greetings

 

[Rob Farmer]

I'd take it to Steptoe he must live very close to you and he has a loan bike while yours is being looked at.

 

[John Armstrong]

And the front calliper refuses to be bled properly. I might try hanging it up from the ceiling to get the bubbles to clear - it always worked on the Le Mans.

Tried the rubber band trick? Or a few runs up and down some alpine passes?

 

[daylyons]

And what might the rubber band trick be? Is it legal?
No Alpine Passes here in leafy Kingston.

 

[John Armstrong]

Bleed the brake as best you can then use the rubber band to hold the brake on overnight to let any air up the pipe and into the master cylinder. An educated guess that if there's a point lower in the pipe / caliper then the air might not escape upwards

After a few alpine passes the brake on my 100GS had noticeable less play in it. I'm guessing the reduced pressure at 2400m, and the increased usage of the brake for all the hairpins helped.

 

[Mike Wilkins]

service

--- and if Steptoe is busy I know a man in Godalming

 

[daylyons]

Excellent stuff all of this. The posties around here are forever dropping elastics all over the pavement, so they have obviously been hinting at the same method.