Is this corrosion?
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In a word, no.
The only way I can see them dishing out motors like they are, is if they're just repainting the old ones and handing them back out to punters. Its highly unlikely people are getting brand new motors for paint warranty replacements.
You're just probably getting someone elses repainted parts.
There's been some debate about just how many have been replaced. Probably not that many in the grand scheme of things. Just how much do you think it would cost to disassemble an engine, strip existing paintwork, paint and reassemble? They would have to have a dedicated plant just to do it.
As you are only about a week past 2 years it would be pretty unreasonable for them to claim that the corrosion had only happened in the last week. I'm sure that they will do the right thing by you. Good luck and post how you get on.
If it was a BMW dealer and the bike was an 'approved' bike then if you look on the BMW UK site they have a charter that sets out certain rules for the standard the bike should be in. Buying at distance,as it's known, is still covered by this so you should have no issues going back to the dealer you purchased the bike from to get it sorted. I've been in this situation myself and they should sort the bike. If necessary you'll be able to ring BMW UK direct and they will help if the dealer is being awkward, again I had to do this but only for compensation.
Hopefully you bought from BMW and it was one of their approved bikes. If so you should be okay. Good luck..
Hopefully you bought from BMW and it was one of their approved bikes. If so you should be okay. Good luck..
RickSkye
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If you buy a bike second hand from a dealer and inspect it, then it is bought as seen, apart from major things, if you don't inspect it then they have to fix it. Have a look at the relevant consumer rights blurb.
You bought yours mail order, you should be covered by distance selling regs as well.
Just in case you don't get any joy.
You bought yours mail order, you should be covered by distance selling regs as well.
Just in case you don't get any joy.
If it was a BMW dealer and the bike was an 'approved' bike then if you look on the BMW UK site they have a charter that sets out certain rules for the standard the bike should be in. Buying at distance,as it's known, is still covered by this so you should have no issues going back to the dealer you purchased the bike from to get it sorted. I've been in this situation myself and they should sort the bike. If necessary you'll be able to ring BMW UK direct and they will help if the dealer is being awkward, again I had to do this but only for compensation.
Hopefully you bought from BMW and it was one of their approved bikes. If so you should be okay. Good luck..
Thanks for the advice, I'll call them this morning and yes it was a BMW dealer.
My 63 plate engine has just been replaced and it had a lot less corrosion than that. They're only fitting short blocks now and reusing the heads.
I had to pay 50% of the labour though. I was fine with that as the later engine is smoother with a much better gearbox.
I had to pay 50% of the labour though. I was fine with that as the later engine is smoother with a much better gearbox.
You bought it from a BMW dealer, I assume, with a two year warranty from the date of sale. It doesn't matter that you didn't inspect it and bought it ' from a distance' It's corrosion, shouldn't happen and you should claim. I am almost certain it will get sorted out. Anything they say to you in an attempt to not pay, you can reply to. It might take a few weeks but it will be done.
we11ington
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Please see my other posts.. same story everywhere on bikes from 2014 onwards. ROTTEN.
Why haven't I read about this in any motorcycle magazines?
If I was cynical I might think it had something to do with the amount BMW spend on advertising, I guess you never bite the hand that feeds.
If I was cynical I might think it had something to do with the amount BMW spend on advertising, I guess you never bite the hand that feeds.
My 2015 GS TE has just had the final drive and swing arm replaced at the time the workshop manager assured me that BMW cover corrosion for 60 months as long as there is a BMW service history, I am however still waiting the confirmation e mail.
They have made just the engine casings available now, if the heads are corrosion free. So my 15 plate is waiting to be booked in next month for replacment casings. The dealer tried to get BMW to agree to a short engine swop, (that was the dealer prefered option, as it's easier and quicker). But the mothership said no!
WaterMonkey
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You look at any unfared motorbike engine and it will show signs of corrosion. BMW have been very good about changing the engines due to a small amount of salt damage. No other manufacturer does. I think it has started to backfire on them though, so many people know about their generosity that they are complaining about tiny amounts of salt damage.
This then makes the GS look bad because there are so many forum posts about it. It's rife on this forum and gives an unfair impression of the issue.
I'd like to see councils stop using salt on roads.
This then makes the GS look bad because there are so many forum posts about it. It's rife on this forum and gives an unfair impression of the issue.
I'd like to see councils stop using salt on roads.
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You are correct in saying that most bikes will show some corrosion (fasteners etc) if ridden year round on salty roads. By year round I mean most days, commuting to work, that kinda thing.
What we are seeing with MWB at the moment is mostly corrosion starting and spreading from UNDER an unbroken paint layer such as paint bubbling on engine cases and rust coming through on smooth sections of subframes.
NONE of that is caused by salt or any other external factor.
It is solely down to poor surface preparation and/or poor application of paint.
And don't go blaming water based eco paints either. All manufacturers have to use these yet seem to cope with having to use them.
I'm NOT getting into a 'my bike's better than yours' thing but my three year old KTM which is ridden all year round has none of the issues being experienced by the current crop of MBW's. None at all. Not even fasteners. Hell, my unrestored 40 year old Guzzi has less corrosion than I've seen on some of the threads in here.
Andres
I'd like to see Councils using geo-thermal heating on roads. No more ice!! No more salt!! No more corrosion!!
But thats me dreaming again.
But thats me dreaming again.
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Some of the main drags in Reykjavik are kept clear that way
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Its such a good idea.
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