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Is this the new 2025 R1200 G/S ?
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Launched by whom JB ? Just looks like one of the very many R9 versions...urban/T etc etc
It's taken a while....and no mention of just what 'ultralite' really is...
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It's taken a while....and no mention of just what 'ultralite' really is...
The ultralight BMW R120 GS Legend concept by Oberdan Bezzi - Adrenaline Culture of Speed
The ultralight BMW R120 GS Legend concept by Oberdan Bezzi The renowned Italian designer Oberdan Bezzi has brought a concept that integrates GS and Nine-T, however, in the Scrambler avatar. The current Nine-T has the 1,170 cc, Air/oil-cooled two-cylinder, four-stroke boxer engine with two...
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17410 Euro? 
MOTORRAD https://www.motorradonline.de/enduro/neue-bmw-r-12-g-s-die-retro-enduro-kommt-am-27-maerz-2025/ had already shown spy photos of the new retro GS in summer 2021 (see the photo gallery above). And in March 2024, BMW Motorrad CEO Markus Flasch personally confirmed that it was coming.
Opinion poll
MOTORRAD https://www.motorradonline.de/enduro/neue-bmw-r-12-g-s-die-retro-enduro-kommt-am-27-maerz-2025/ had already shown spy photos of the new retro GS in summer 2021 (see the photo gallery above). And in March 2024, BMW Motorrad CEO Markus Flasch personally confirmed that it was coming.
BMW R 12 G/S: Presentation on March 27, 2025
Now, one year later, on March 24, 2025, the first official teaser images have appeared. Along with the model name: It will be called the BMW R 12 G/S, with a slash, like the legendary original R 80 G/S from 1980. Bayerische Motoren Werke has also announced the exact date for the presentation of the new R 12 G/S: Thursday, March 27, 2025, at 5 p.m.Technical data is already available to MOTORRAD
Although technical data for the new BMW R 12 G/S are not yet officially available, MOTORRAD published the key data, which was leaked via convoluted channels, back in November 2024.Air-oil-cooled boxer engine with 1,170 cc and 109 hp
Accordingly, the BMW R 12 G/S will feature the 1,170 cc, air-oil-cooled, double-overhead camshaft (DOHC) twin-cylinder boxer engine, with the same Euro 5+ tuning as the R 12 nineT. This means 109 hp peak power, 115 Nm of maximum torque, and a 6-speed transmission. A claimed top speed of 210 km/h (130 mph) should be fast enough for a retro enduro.229 kilograms light retro enduro
Especially since the BMW R 12 G/S will likely be relatively light for a 1200cc boxer enduro with a cardan shaft. A preliminary weight of 229 kilograms has been leaked, ready to ride with basic equipment and a 90 percent full 15.5-liter fuel tank.21-inch front wheel and long suspension travel
The new BMW R 12 G/S, with its 21-inch front wheel, is a proper, fully off-road capable enduro. The rear wheel format is still unclear – either 17 or 18 inches. In any case, BMW's typical tubeless cross-spoke wheels are expected. The upside-down fork and Paralever single-sided swing arm with central spring strut are apparently designed for at least 200 millimeters of travel front and rear. This reportedly results in a seat height of 860 millimeters.Reduced basic equipment
The (basic) equipment of the BMW R 12 G/S is slimmed down, in keeping with its concept. As a retro enduro, it will likely only be equipped with the most necessary modern features from the factory, such as ABS (probably partially deactivated for off-road use). However, additional options such as a gearshift assistant or tire pressure indicators will likely be available to its future owners.Highly anticipated price of the BMW R 12 G/S
Accordingly, the BMW R 12 G/S shouldn't be too prohibitively expensive. At least by BMW standards. One indication is the current price for the R 12 nineT: starting at €17,410. We'll know that for sure on March 27 at 5 p.m.Opinion poll
Conclusion
It's been no secret for a long time that BMW is launching a new retro enduro: spy photos have been available for years – and confirmation from CEO Markus Flasch himself. Now BMW has officially announced the new model: The R 12 G/S – with a slash – will be presented on Thursday, March 27, 2025, at 5 p.m. According to information leaked to MOTORRAD in November 2024, the key specs are: 109 hp, 229 kg, a 21-inch front wheel, and at least 200 millimeters of suspension travel. The base price is expected to start at around 17,000 euros.
With fuel, no doubt
Original G/S was about 170kg wasn’t it ?
What’s 60kg between friends ?
Compared with the 260kg odd of the 1300 it is light.
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If thats an official teaser photo then im a dutchman. No way BMW would release that - weird background text, wrong corporate logo - AI generated and badly at that.IMHO
FWIW RE the new R1200GS, I recently saw this on another site. BMW is making a mistake if he is correct about the little fuel tank.
Strong clues in the specs that it will be way more off-road oriented than the Urban thing from a few years ago:
21" front wheel, same or similar to F 900 GS.
210 mm front and 200mm rear suspension travel
The rear tire is only 150mm (Urban was 170mm)
Curb weight 229kg, the most disappointing spec is the 15l tank, which is a joke for this motor.
Production begins Spring 2025.
Strong clues in the specs that it will be way more off-road oriented than the Urban thing from a few years ago:
21" front wheel, same or similar to F 900 GS.
210 mm front and 200mm rear suspension travel
The rear tire is only 150mm (Urban was 170mm)
Curb weight 229kg, the most disappointing spec is the 15l tank, which is a joke for this motor.
Production begins Spring 2025.
Probably a €2,400 option for a useful tank. And €600 for a "comfortable" seat........There will be an optional larger Dakar tank, no doubt
2004 1200GS was 199Kg IIRC...
And that’s before the clueless weekend warriors have added extra lights and other pointless needless tat
Yeah the first R1200GS claimed to be much lighter than the heavy R1150 GS. What this bike is based on is a 2012 R1200GS Camhead and it was listed as weighing 238 kg wet with its 20L tank filled. But BMW motorcycles tend to weigh more than the factory states. I certainly have no problem with it assuming it weighs about the same as it did back in 2012, but if it only holds 15L of fuel it'll be more of an Urban GS poser machine with upgraded suspension than adventure motorcycle to travel on.
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There you go, Number6
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