Thanks Sheene. This is the photo, i m before some years on an old beautiful red yamaha R1 like yours J.B 007
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Thanks Sheene. This is the photo, i m before some years on an old beautiful red yamaha R1 like yours J.B 007
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just under 1000 rpm is ideal
Has anyone here been running one of Johns chips for long enough to report how their bike is running after several hundred niles ?
Has there is a heated debate going on in another thread with the argument that Motronic unit will revert back to stock settings regardless of what chip is fitted if the lambda is not changed. (contested by John)
If this is true then anyone using the chip would notice the MPG dropping back to stock levels
Has there is a heated debate going on in another thread with the argument that Motronic unit will revert back to stock settings regardless of what chip is fitted if the lambda is not changed. (contested by John)
If this is true then anyone using the chip would notice the MPG dropping back to stock levels
Hi John
I have done around 500 miles since fitting the chip and the bike is running very smoothly.
However the fuel consumption has only improved a little. Before I removed the CCP it went to 190 miles before the fuel warning light, after removal 165 miles, now with the bike all tuned up, ticking over nicely and running smoothly with the chip 170 miles. So some improvement but not back to pre chip removal status.
Do I need to do the procedure on page 25 of this thread? Is my CCP broken?
Thanks fgor any advice
I have done around 500 miles since fitting the chip and the bike is running very smoothly.
However the fuel consumption has only improved a little. Before I removed the CCP it went to 190 miles before the fuel warning light, after removal 165 miles, now with the bike all tuned up, ticking over nicely and running smoothly with the chip 170 miles. So some improvement but not back to pre chip removal status.
Do I need to do the procedure on page 25 of this thread? Is my CCP broken?
Thanks fgor any advice
The maps in to the mod chip based on stock maps. Just gives little more richer AFR and variable timing advance (huge at low, more at middle and little more at high revs of rpms), so the engine works fine by factory CCP and by 95 octane petrols.. Much better torque and consumption.
Plug & Play, no needed any conversions to other electronics of the bike.
The stage 5 chip is just an improvement stock chip for stock bike, works also fine by free air filter and after market exhaust and gives more life to old boxer bikes for enjoy.
Note that if you fit out the CCP the AFR is very richer at low and middle revs of rpms, and the bike can not go with power after 6.000 rpms, the consumption is very bad, so no needed this by mod chip.
The "no CCP function" works only to R850-1100 GS-R without "lambda" and only by fitinig the large intake tubes from RT. There are only maps by this function for working correclty for the best consumption. For R1150 (all models) and for all R1100 (with lambda) the function "no CCP" make a confuse to ECU and after little miles the ECU make an adapt to the final safety maps and works only to low and lmiddle revs of rpms by richer AFR.. No good consumption. no power at high. It is a trick taking advantage engineers to give a little richer AFR which only works corectly for a few miles until the ECU confuse and make an adapt to the safety maps.
By mod chips there are no confuse, no adapt, no wrong remmaping or back to old maps (the maps are new, there are no old maps).
So you can drive for ever and enjoy far away.
Fit again the CCP
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After fiting the CCP, take out the fuse 5 for 5 min ..and the improvement maps reload agains
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http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread...-Tuning-Chip?p=3891988&viewfull=1#post3891988
http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread...-Tuning-Chip?p=3889024&viewfull=1#post3889024
Plug & Play, no needed any conversions to other electronics of the bike.
The stage 5 chip is just an improvement stock chip for stock bike, works also fine by free air filter and after market exhaust and gives more life to old boxer bikes for enjoy.
Note that if you fit out the CCP the AFR is very richer at low and middle revs of rpms, and the bike can not go with power after 6.000 rpms, the consumption is very bad, so no needed this by mod chip.
The "no CCP function" works only to R850-1100 GS-R without "lambda" and only by fitinig the large intake tubes from RT. There are only maps by this function for working correclty for the best consumption. For R1150 (all models) and for all R1100 (with lambda) the function "no CCP" make a confuse to ECU and after little miles the ECU make an adapt to the final safety maps and works only to low and lmiddle revs of rpms by richer AFR.. No good consumption. no power at high. It is a trick taking advantage engineers to give a little richer AFR which only works corectly for a few miles until the ECU confuse and make an adapt to the safety maps.
By mod chips there are no confuse, no adapt, no wrong remmaping or back to old maps (the maps are new, there are no old maps).
So you can drive for ever and enjoy far away.
Fit again the CCP
. After fiting the CCP, take out the fuse 5 for 5 min ..and the improvement maps reload agains
.http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread...-Tuning-Chip?p=3891988&viewfull=1#post3891988
http://ukgser.com/forums/showthread...-Tuning-Chip?p=3889024&viewfull=1#post3889024
Hi John
I took out fuse for 5 mins, opened throttle 3 times with ignition on, closed ignition and started bike. No improvement on fuel consumption I'm afraid after 50 miles. Bike is set up nice and running better than ever with the chip. I don't think it is the chip because it all started when I removed the CCP which was before I got the chip.
Any advice - thanks
D
I took out fuse for 5 mins, opened throttle 3 times with ignition on, closed ignition and started bike. No improvement on fuel consumption I'm afraid after 50 miles. Bike is set up nice and running better than ever with the chip. I don't think it is the chip because it all started when I removed the CCP which was before I got the chip.
Any advice - thanks
D
Fit again the CCP.
Hi John
CCP is fitted with chip in and tuning done.
Do you mean take CCP out and put it back in? If so is this to reset? Do I need to take fuse out again after taking out and putting back CCP?
Questions Questions!!
CCP is fitted with chip in and tuning done.
Do you mean take CCP out and put it back in? If so is this to reset? Do I need to take fuse out again after taking out and putting back CCP?
Questions Questions!!
No the CCP must be on the fusebox..
You sould refit for 5 min and fit again the fuse 5.
Let us know about consumption after correct settings
Let me know again pls, has your bike lambda or CO-POT ?
You sould refit for 5 min and fit again the fuse 5.
Let us know about consumption after correct settings
Let me know again pls, has your bike lambda or CO-POT ?
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John, It is important on the 1100 to check what color ccp he put in.
Yes. The correct is red plug CCP but i do not understand, i know that there are R1100RT models with lambda, thre are no models with CO-POT as the GS-R.
Roger 04 RT
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For the R1100RT, Yellow (30-87) is for lambda sensor models, No Plug is for the Non-CAT.
For the R1100GS, Pink (30-87-87a) is for lambda sensor models, Beige (30-87a) is for the Non-CAT.
I have confirmed the above on the R1100RT with actual measurements.
Yes Roger, sorry, i was confuse.. The yellow is for R1100RT, red for R150RT, R1100GS and the litle brown for R1100 (no lambda). Thanks !!
Hi John
Okay I think I have it re-set and all feels ok - i will check fuel consumption this week.
John/Roger
I have No CAT, Lambda, and Remus exhaust with beige CCP so I assume all well.
Many thanks
Okay I think I have it re-set and all feels ok - i will check fuel consumption this week.
John/Roger
I have No CAT, Lambda, and Remus exhaust with beige CCP so I assume all well.
Many thanks
Roger 04 RT
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As long as you have a connection from 30-87a you have the stock, no lambda CCP.
Do you have the ability to adjust the idle carbon monoxide level. 2% would be good.
Also, how much ethanol does the fuel you use contain?
Do you have the ability to adjust the idle carbon monoxide level. 2% would be good.
Also, how much ethanol does the fuel you use contain?
Roger 04 RT
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In Massachusetts we're at 10% and that's all you can find. Rumors of 15% ethanol coming abound.
The reason that ethanol content is important is that the fueling on an Open Loop bike needs to take the stoichiometric ratio of the fuel into account. Gasoline is 14.7lbs air to 1 lb. fuel. If 10% ethanol is added, the ratio is 14.1 lbs. air to 1 lb. fuel (so you need more fuel for the same result, for E10 fuel).
On the Open Loop bikes, John should make different chips for different ethanol content to get the same AFRs.
This isn't an issue for Closed Loop bikes with O2 sensors, since Mixture Adaptation (same one that negates added fuel) creates the extra fuel needed by E10.
RB
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One quick comment on the John GS Eprom chips...
I sent the specs for my 2003 GS Adventure to John in Greece and requested that he recommend the best chip for my particular bike. It took a day or two longer than I had anticipated, but John said be patient, as he was writing me the very latest chip. The delivery package arrived, and contained not one chip but two! A Stage 5 chip and also a Stage 8. The gist of the instructions was S5 for better mid-range boost and economy, or S8 for all out performance.
I fitted the S5 chip very easily in around 40 minutes, all done, it is not a complex procedure at all, and I have to say that the change in performance characteristics has been dramatic. It always felt to me that the bike was being held back or restrained in some way, and the new chip has changed this completely. There is no surge, no more on/off as you close the throttle, both up-shifts and down-shifts are SO much smoother, and as others have commented, you are generally a gear higher than you would normally be.
Johns product is excellent, his friendly service is excellent, and I cannot recommend changing the Eprom highly enough. You will not regret it!
Italian-GSer
I sent the specs for my 2003 GS Adventure to John in Greece and requested that he recommend the best chip for my particular bike. It took a day or two longer than I had anticipated, but John said be patient, as he was writing me the very latest chip. The delivery package arrived, and contained not one chip but two! A Stage 5 chip and also a Stage 8. The gist of the instructions was S5 for better mid-range boost and economy, or S8 for all out performance.
I fitted the S5 chip very easily in around 40 minutes, all done, it is not a complex procedure at all, and I have to say that the change in performance characteristics has been dramatic. It always felt to me that the bike was being held back or restrained in some way, and the new chip has changed this completely. There is no surge, no more on/off as you close the throttle, both up-shifts and down-shifts are SO much smoother, and as others have commented, you are generally a gear higher than you would normally be.
Johns product is excellent, his friendly service is excellent, and I cannot recommend changing the Eprom highly enough. You will not regret it!
Italian-GSer
Sorry I don't think I was clear with my statement.
My Original bike had a CAT and lambda. I took the CAT off and replaced the end can with a Remus - It still has the Lambda in situ.
I have a beige CCP
Roger 04 RT
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Sorry I don't think I was clear with my statement.
My Original bike had a CAT and lambda. I took the CAT off and replaced the end can with a Remus - It still has the Lambda in situ.
I have a beige CCP
then you want a pink CCP. 30-87-87a
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