JohnGS1100 Tuning Chip

This is the section from R1150 twins (it is the same file for GS and RT). It is your bin file :

........R1150R/GS ECE+US R1150R/GS Japan R1150R/GS 91 Oktan R1150RT/RS ECE+US R1150RT/RS Japan R1100S ECE+US R1100S Japan keine Serie 768442802612078691037368120


This file has multiplay maps for R1150GS (twins), but it has not multiplay maps for RT-RS-S twins.

You can see the bin file by a hex editor, the section begins to address 00AD00.
 
Roger 04 RT said:
John, Earlier you referenced the GS not the GSA. But that doesn't matter. 86 isn't an Octane pin.

There is a section of the BIN file that displays the text names for the 8 different maps. It is in the middle of the file. Can you cut and paste the text from that section of the file and post it here?
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Roger. I give the GSA file to all members has the R1150GS. The file from GSA has multiplay maps and works fine to GS, the engine is the same, the only different is on the bin files.
The stock GS file, you 're rigth, has no multiplay maps but i do not use that file for remaping, i use always the GSA file.
 
Hi,

this just an idea but it might be usefull to collect all the "facts" about differend stage chips (requirements for the setup), power curves, CCP:s and so on
in a same post like on first page on this thread or make an specific thread without any other discussion. Now it is a bit hard
to find specs from this thread.
 
JohnGS1100 said:
R1150 R/GS ECE
Kat
R1150 R/GS US u.TEV
R1150 R/GS CH o.TEV
R1150RT ECE/US Kat/T

Pin 86 Maps
R1150RT US II Kat/TE
R1150 R/GS ECE ROZ91
KEINE SERIE
KEINE SERIE 766728502612061731037362815

That is the coding section of R1150GS single spark bin file.
There are maps for R1150GS (CCP 30,87), R1150GS Us (CCP 30,86,87 that is for low octane). R1150RT (CCP 30,87,87a) and R1150RTUs (CCP 30,86,87,87 low octane too).
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John, From what you presented in the two BIN maps it can clearly be seen that pin 86 does not always contain a low octane map. In the example above, 30-86-87-87a is not a low octane R1150RT, it does not have a valid map, which I've confirmed by riding test.

JohnGS1100 said:
This is the section from R1150 twins (it is the same file for GS and RT). It is your bin file :

R1150R/GS ECE+US
R1150R/GS Japan
R1150R/GS 91 Oktan
R1150RT/RS ECE+US


Pin 86 Maps
R1150RT/RS Japan
R1100S ECE+US
R1100S Japan
keine Serie 768442802612078691037368120


This file has multiplay maps for R1150GS (twins), but it has not multiplay maps for RT-RS-S twins.

You can see the bin file by a hex editor, the section begins to address 00AD00.
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In this example, none of the Pin 86 maps (the bottom four in the list) have a low octane function.

Using the above two examples is why it is so important to use a GS-911 to read the coding plug functions for an R1150 and not assume any pin has a given function like RT tubes, low octane or catalytic converter. And since the BIN lists vary from country to country and year to year, nothing should be assumed. To know what plug to use, read the codes with a GS-911.

Another piece of advice you give is to use the pink plug if you use RT tubes. But that advice is questionable since the RT plug is designed for its larger tubes, higher compression and different cam shaft, not just the RT intake tubes.

Bottom line, read your Motronic with GS-911 to know.
 
Antti said:
Hi,

this just an idea but it might be usefull to collect all the "facts" about differend stage chips (requirements for the setup), power curves, CCP:s and so on
in a same post like on first page on this thread or make an specific thread without any other discussion. Now it is a bit hard
to find specs from this thread.
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Very good idea Antti:thumby:
I struggled but got there in the end I think, just need to fuel assess fuel consumption (keep gunning it to use the new found torque n power) :blast

Can't find any difference when adjusting C02 pot (steady 3,500rpm but no increase in revs when adjusting pot). So will try with gas analyser if someone could confirm procedure and target % please.
 
Roger 04 RT said:
John, From what you presented in the two BIN maps it can clearly be seen that pin 86 does not always contain a low octane map. In the example above, 30-86-87-87a is not a low octane R1150RT, it does not have a valid map, which I've confirmed by riding test.



In this example, none of the Pin 86 maps (the bottom four in the list) have a low octane function.

Using the above two examples is why it is so important to use a GS-911 to read the coding plug functions for an R1150 and not assume any pin has a given function like RT tubes, low octane or catalytic converter. And since the BIN lists vary from country to country and year to year, nothing should be assumed. To know what plug to use, read the codes with a GS-911.

Another piece of advice you give is to use the pink plug if you use RT tubes. But that advice is questionable since the RT plug is designed for its larger tubes, higher compression and different cam shaft, not just the RT intake tubes.

Bottom line, read your Motronic with GS-911 to know.
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Thanks Roger, i will try again the pins 86. I know that works on GS single and twin sparks and RT single spark. Does no working on RT, S, RS twin sparks.
BMW make the chip for adventure models single and twin spark GS for driving at Africa and all countries with low octane-ron petrols.

Also be sure that the chip from S and RS working fine on GS, does no matter the bigger cams or the higer compretion ratio. The RS and S model has the same expand ignition to the sparks as the RT, R, GS models, little diferent at injection fuel only.

I m not suggesting the RS or S chip to GS stock bike, it is only for testing and for racing driving only. There are many friends who want to trying that's all. :thumb2
 
What a coding plug is intended to do varies by Motronic revision. On the chips you ship, you can narrow down the differences. But someone reading this thread might think it applies to stock motorcycles, which it doesn't. So read the Motronic with a GS-911 to know what a coding plug is meant to do.

If those who want to experiment with rechipping want the best torque and smoothness--rather than trying other Coding Plugs which is really, as you said, just telling a GS that it's an RT or something else--they should try shifting lambda (LC-2 or AF-XIED) for a significant gain in the 1000 to 4000 RPM RANGE over anything that can be done on Closed Loop rechipping.
 
Hi , new here so hello to every one , I would like to ask a question or two and a little help please . I have bought a 2002 gs1150 . I have de-cat the bike but still using the original end pipe . It is still using the original air filter at the moment I have installed johns stage 9 chip .
Question 1 , the fuel pumps stay on , I don't know if they did before , ( the same sound as when the ignition is first switched on without the engine running but quieter ) . Is this correct .
Question 2 , the exhaust makes a popping sound on deceleration .

Is this because of the air filter or the fuel as I have not put a higher octane fuel in as yet or both .
Hope this makes sense ,
Thanks Paul .
 
Hi Alan. Take a look at the cover of ECU and tell me the big numbers please.
 
big numbers 7654244 gonna put old chip back in just incase be on the safe side but I do have a stage9 but im not sure now ,also heard very good reports on the stage 8 chip see what john says when he checked a few things out as ive only a stock filter in my r1150gs
 
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The ECU is correct.
I do not know why not work the chip. Maybe is demage. Did you have the stage 9 ? Try this please. If not work i will send new.
 
Hi sheene , does your pop on deceleration ? . When did you install your chip ,
As roger said it has happened before on page number 44 , but there is no reply on the remedy ,
 
Does any one know if disconnecting the battery reset the fuel pump and the ECU
Hi sheene did you pm john
 
Thanks for your reply Magon , will try later today and report back , cheers
 
mine pops rarely just check that the exhausts is sealed up on the joints I did my chip yesterday stage 8 and when you install yours take fuse 5 out for 5 mins replace the fuse turn ignition on with out starting it turn the the throttle 3x times then you can fire her up let it settle for abit .
 
Ok , I have done what sheene and magnon has suggested , no joy, I have also taken the chip out and left it with the fuse out for ten minutes and put it back . Still the same , going to put the original back and PM john .
 
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