keyless or gear assist pro ??

Keyless is brilliant I find. Gear shift I only use for up shifting and find it good. That said, it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
 
Get both, you won't regret it.

Got both, love both. (So far anyway!!)
 
I didn't go for them. Dont want a different way to change gear, fine how I am.
Keyless, we have a keyless car not exited about it. Every time I leave the bike I remove the Satnav so its handy to have the key in the ignition.
 
I would avoid keyless, had it on the Multistrada and hated it.
Needed the key to put petrol in, so why not have it where I can find it in the ignition? Plus very easy to ride off and leave the transponer on a shelf in the garage or similar. No advantages but plenty dangers..
Had gearshift pro (quickshifter) on S1r and thought it was great. But that used to get caned. Gearchanges were not so great when riding steady. Maybe depends on how you ride.
 
Btw, keyless petrol cap was also option on the Duke...lots of failures that had people frustrated on petrol forecourts. Why bother with something that is so simple with a key is beyond me.
 
When I bought the bike I got Gear shift pro and not the Keyless, through choice. I have not regretted it, I'm an old Lad but still like to give it some welly, i.e. when coming up a slip road onto a Duel carriageway , if there is a lorry or something you can just open it up and slide in, over 4000 rpm it clicks in the next gear a treat. And on overtakes works well. In that respect I think it's safer, as you are past the overtake quicker, it changes in a 10th of a second. And as has been said you use it 100s of times a ride.
 
Not on a 12 but an XR - keyless is not an option but I got the gear assist. Feckin awesome if you use it properly. I rarely used the clutch on my old 12Adv but it still took a bit of 'retraining' to get the most out of it. Full throttle upshifts and downshifts on either a loaded or trailing throttle and you don't need to concentrate nearly as hard as on manual downshifts. What's not to love :thumb
 
I would say got for both.

I find the keyless useful and don't mind getting a key out of my pocket if I need to lock/unlock a pannier. I don't lock them very often so its not really an issue for me.

If I had to choose the GSA would be the one to go for. I think it's a superb piece of kit - its super smooth when you're pushing on and changing up... when you're changing down (which felt very odd the first few times I did it), it blips the throttle nicely which makes me smile.

I have a September 64 plate (UK) with around 13k miles on it and both features have been problem free so far (touch wood....)
 
I had keyless on my multistrada and it's great if you want your comedian friends to demonstrate exactly why parking your bike close to your tent in a race paddock makes it easy to pinch. I'd retreated to bed at about midnight and they came back from the pub, woke me with their sniggering and I then heard them discussing whether it'd be in range of the key. It was and they started it then made me get out of the tent to turn it off.

It's also a pain in the arse when the battery in the fob goes flat so I kept a spare in the compartment under the seat from the day I bought the bike.

If the GSA works on both up and down changes then it'll be worth having. I can't remember which model had which but I had an afternoon test riding various BMWs at SBMW and some had assist on up shift only and some on both up & down but both worked better if the engine was being revved a bit rather than just bimbling along.
 
I find the GSAP works well on both up and down changes when "making progress" but can be clunky and embarrassing when bimbling along. Well worth having.
I don't have keyless but had it on a Harley. It never gave any trouble but I didn't see any real advantage and there was one comedy incident when a mate took it for a ride and then handed it back but kept the key. He had to come out and rescue me.
 
Mawnanian said:
I find the GSAP works well on both up and down changes when "making progress" but can be clunky and embarrassing when bimbling along. Well worth having.
I don't have keyless but had it on a Harley. It never gave any trouble but I didn't see any real advantage and there was one comedy incident when a mate took it for a ride and then handed it back but kept the key. He had to come out and rescue me.
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This is the point.
You have to re wire your brain for use with the GSAP and also for the Keyless. On both issues you can get caught out. But after a little time they are both great.
 
But keyless works on the ignition which I use more often than the panniers.

As you still need to have the key about your person why not use it to open the panniers.


If you're to lazy to retrieve key from pocket get an RT or K1600 which has central locking so no need to reach for key
 
FBF said:
But keyless works on the ignition which I use more often than the panniers.

As you still need to have the key about your person why not use it to open the panniers.


If you're to lazy to retrieve key from pocket get an RT or K1600 which has central locking so no need to reach for key
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Exactly. The argument to not have keyless as you need to unlock the panniers anyway is a daft one.
 
So keyless is a potential security issue and gear assist is clunky unless you're hooning and may well shorten the life of the transmission.

Best get both.
 
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