Keyless

richardbd said:
I don't particularly want a spare key fob. Do you think I can just get the £165?

:nenau
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I wish.... :D
I've been ignored after sending a reply to an identical email (somewhere in this thread) I replied to. I'll give them till weekend and then try again :D I am a persistent bugger.....


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Wapping said:
I'm really missing the point? How so?

You asked:

I replied (elaborated) with some reasonably straightforward suggestions. Seems remarkable on-point, to me. If you already knew how and where to get the blank cut, why ask the question or tell us that your understanding that it's a factory job only?





If I had to guess, because BMW need to code the uncut transponder key to the specific receiver on your bike, so that when you hold it against the box of widgets under the wheel arch it works. If BMW didn't, you might as well hold your house key or a three week old kipper there. Have you tried holding the blank key you've just received via the Post Office there and starting the bike? Have you tried doing it with the spare plastic key, I think you received when you picked the bike up?

On the 1600 you hold the spare plastic transponder key close to the petrol cap, as described in the owner's handbook. But, that's a different, non-GS 'Adventure' bike, as bought by the self-reliant bikermates of England. Why do BMW (apparently) put a receiver under the wheel arch on a GS, when it's up on the fuel tank on the 1600? I imagine, it can only be to enhance the ruggedness of the GS owner and the bike, kneeling on the rocky piste, the sun beating down, bandana ringing wet with sweat and the vultures circling.....



Because BMW couldn't be arsed, I guess.

Ask BMW to elaborate, I suggest.



What then? Four possibilities, at least:

1. It won't lock / unlock the pannier or seat locks

2. It'll jam in the locks

3. You'll need to complain to whoever cut it... and on here, too

4. You'll cry



Yup, maybe you should.



When you do the above. Failing that, stick to driving your two key Series 5.
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You should really avoid posting comments after a drink, the same goes for responding to work emails, just a suggestion to prevent us tax payers having to subsidise you.
 
Dwaind said:
....however as I had to submit my vin number to get a new key I question why it....
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Beyond the not unreasonable guess that BMW need the VIN number to code your blank additional key's transponder internals to your specific bike's receiver or it won't work, it's very easy to additionally guess that it's maybe a small security measure on BMW's part to protect bikermates up and down the land.

Assuming that the blank additional key you've received via the post does enable you to start your motorcycle when held under the rear mudguard *, it would be very irresponsible of BMW to post it out, simply because you knew the number plate, the bike's colour or simply because you said it was your bike. Imagine, just for one moment, the howls of outrage if bods were able to contact BMW saying, "Send us a new key mate..." and then the key plonking down on their mat.... a key that they could use to nick YOUR bike.

You used to be able to walk into BMW dealerships and buy new keys very easily. At least in London, they stopped posting replacement and additional keys out in the regular post for very obviously simple reasons. This maybe explains why you had to leap through hoops going to the Post Office to pick it up. They then started demanding that you order the additional or replacement key via the parts department of the dealership WITH your V5 in your hand, even if they recognised you and / or had your bike in for servicing then and there. Assuming you were not present when BMW agreed to supply your additional key, they maybe just needed some simple prooof (you knowing the full VIN number, for example) that the bike was indeed yours.

Still the most likely reason is that BMW needed the VIN number in order to code the key, even so.



* Have you tried yet?
 
After reading through all this is it fair for me to assume that if you have keyless ignition there is no real benefit with coding luggage to match the bike key? May as well just get the cheaper lock version and then have spare keys and not risk damaging expensive ignition key opening pannier/top box. The reason I ask is that I am considering a new bike and will need to fund some luggage too.
 
JerseyNeil said:
After reading through all this is it fair for me to assume that if you have keyless ignition there is no real benefit with coding luggage to match the bike key? May as well just get the cheaper lock version and then have spare keys and not risk damaging expensive ignition key opening pannier/top box. The reason I ask is that I am considering a new bike and will need to fund some luggage too.
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Ring around, you should get the luggage thrown in with your deal:beerjug:
 
Just slapped a deposit on a bike with keyless. So do I just get luggage locks with the ability to taylor them to my keyless ignition key or should I get the cheaper version with two sturdy keys supplied?

Is there any real advantage now with having one key fits all when you don't need to take that particular key out of your pocket??

I'm genuinely keen to hear those with keyless and luggages thoughts and experiences.
 
My bike is keyless and I love the convenience it gives you buying petrol etc, I wouldn't go back to having to use a key again given the choice.

I bought GIVI luggage so I keep the BMW fob in an inside pocket and use the GIVI keys on a separate key ring in an outer pocket.

Works for me..
 
Goldfinger said:
My bike is keyless and I love the convenience it gives you buying petrol etc, I wouldn't go back to having to use a key again given the choice.

I bought GIVI luggage so I keep the BMW fob in an inside pocket and use the GIVI keys on a separate key ring in an outer pocket.

Works for me..
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I feel the same about keyless. I love it. The only fault lies in my own making. I have my key fob on a lanyard around my neck along with -
My garage padlock key
My house key
My disc lock key
My garage ground anchor chain lock key
The key for my travelling around chain lock
My Givi luggage key
My Pacsafe padlock key....... the list goes on.............

I need to rearrange my set up.

:blast
 
Goldfinger said:
My bike is keyless and I love the convenience it gives you buying petrol etc, I wouldn't go back to having to use a key again given the choice.

I bought GIVI luggage so I keep the BMW fob in an inside pocket and use the GIVI keys on a separate key ring in an outer pocket.

Works for me..
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+1


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Cheers gents sounds like - bike key in pocket never to be removed and separate pannier key. See its saving me money already :augie

And before anyone moans, yes it is a 1st world problem.... but it is still a problem:thumb
 
All they need to do now is invent keyless luggage which locks automatically once the sensor is out of range.

I'm sure it will be available one day.
 
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