Full suit I assume?Badlands pricing is very good at present (USD 1199.00 from Revzilla)... and with a lift time guarantee.... very tempting
Klim or New Street guard 4
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Bit late to this post but, I have had the badland pro for 2 seasons, its a top jacket, venting is the best there is. Its tough but flexible. However I'm a big lad and i struggle with the room around the wrist the cuffs have no room in them at all. In winter i struggle with gloves even the £150 Klim ones. In really bad weather i end up with water tracking up from the cuffs all the way up my arms, so end up piss wet through. i ride with Red Rick a lot and in the same shite weather hes stayed bone dry! So i will always use the Badland for 3 seasons, not four. i bought the new BMW suite in September and so far have used it in the crap and wet weather a couple of dozen times. Its warm and dry and well made, but come spring I will be straight back into the Badland Pro.
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Cheers Roadcraft-Rider,
I don't suppose you could elaborate on where you prefer the Klim over the SG4?
It sounds as though the SG4 gives you better weather protection and the Badlands gives you better ventilation!
I don't suppose you could elaborate on where you prefer the Klim over the SG4?
It sounds as though the SG4 gives you better weather protection and the Badlands gives you better ventilation!
As the good chap said he is a good size ( no insult to Andy intended) and the only issues he has had is around the wrists where the storm cuff thing is and as he also says i have never had that problem. I do not have tree trunk wrists My Badlands has never let in a drop even in the most torrential rain.
I get that the Badlands has no thermal liner but thats an opprtunity to layer as you wish.
It is the Venting on the badlands that makes it the best for me as no other suit in this category comes close in this department so when the heavens open on a hot day just do up the vents and keep going !
All that said Andy's SG4 does look a good bit of kit If you can find it in his Biking apparell store !!!
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SG4 comes in many different sizes, including different jacket lengths and trouser lengths. If your a true sized tosser like me then those things matter. If your just average size then maybe they matter less so.
God ... is it hellDo you find yourself constantly waiting for him ...
Lol its not too bad he's quite quick in between tab stops which tent to be hourly!
Ask him about his non smoking fastcat trip back from France and straight out the gates without a tab. Closets I ever seen to the incredible sulk ever.
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Yes mate your right venting is best with Badland Pro gortex is also the nuts water just runs off. The arms are a bit long for me and i find the storm cuffs don't go down far enough to cover the wrists with Gortex Better if i take a couple of pics and post em later to show you what i mean.
The streetguard is more traditional good quality warm and fits much better. That said thats cos they have so many variants, as Bear said for the slightly bigger fella it makes a difference.
To be honest i don't think i will ever find a jacket thats 100% for all year, but these two are pretty close, if looks are anything to go with Badland wins.
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I have the Latitude suit and do not have this problem
Don't get me wrong unless your riding in daylong down pours and i do, it wont be a problem.
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Sheesh ....
(Shhhhh ... Susan was saying only the other night that he was quite moody .....
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Too bloody right I was moody !
3 hours on a no smoking ferry and then an hour before we stopped !
As for hourly fag stops it gives road craft rider chance to catch up lol
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3 hours on a no smoking ferry and then an hour before we stopped !
As for hourly fag stops it gives road craft rider chance to catch up lol
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Since last years price drop the Badlands Pro kit is actually cheaper than the SG4.
B/L £1055.00 SG4 £1100.00
On the Ride mag test they reckoned that the SG4 took longer to drip-dry than the Klim, I don't know why this should be, can anyone with both sets of kit verify if this is fact or fiction.
B/L £1055.00 SG4 £1100.00
On the Ride mag test they reckoned that the SG4 took longer to drip-dry than the Klim, I don't know why this should be, can anyone with both sets of kit verify if this is fact or fiction.
My traverse is this bonded gortex set up, and the rain just doesn't get a chance to absorb into the jacket at all. It beads off as soon as it gets wet. I'm guessing the Bm kit absorbs more water into the outer material...
The BM Suite drips off as well its not Goretex but its BM's own go at the same sort of thing its a bonded pro skin, not liner. So far rain runs straight off no soaking in but its only 4 or 5 months old. The Klim is Goretex pro and runs straight off.
If you can get a really good fit in the Klim gear I would go for Klim over the BM suite, I can't and with the amount of fit options on the BM its a better fit for me.
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The BM Suite drips off as well its not Goretex but its BM's own go at the same sort of thing its a bonded pro skin, not liner. So far rain runs straight off no soaking in but its only 4 or 5 months old. The Klim is Goretex pro and runs straight off.
If you can get a really good fit in the Klim gear I would go for Klim over the BM suite, I can't and with the amount of fit options on the BM its a better fit for me.
Think you need to be the shape of a double wardrobe to fit into Klim. Especially the trousers.
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I was told (by the retailer) that the Klim trousers were cut generously to allow full off-road armour underneath them. That aside, the Latitude suit has a completely different cut to the Badlands Pro. Trousers are less generous and the jacket better (longer) on arm length and chest (for me anyway).
+ 1 for the SG4, the fit was much better for me than the Klim especially the trousers, I'm not tosser sized yet and find that the BMW clothing fits me perfectly. I do have a Klim gortex top from ABW which I use for off roading that is good though.
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